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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
On May 12 2010 06:48 HazMat wrote: It's bias cause I played Oblivion first. But c'mon TES are amazing. Morrowind is great. Oblivion kept all of the flaws that Morrowind had, removed much of its greatness, added some stupid shit like leveled gear and random bandits with daedric equipment and then had ~three voice actors voice every npc in the game. | ||
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Nytefish
United Kingdom4282 Posts
But if you were really hardcore you'd play roguelike games such as Angband.  | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On May 12 2010 06:49 Boblion wrote: BG2 Tactics mod Nah i think it is more like batshit insanely difficult. Lol Boblion as soon as I saw the thread title, I knew I'd find you here.  Defintely second his recommendation. On May 12 2010 06:57 beef42 wrote: i second this poster. this game is extremely difficult without extensive D&D twinking knowledge. And boils down to a Bugbear murder simulator with it. | ||
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Reno(TE)
United Kingdom434 Posts
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illu
Canada2531 Posts
For something that is just hard, there is final fantasy. | ||
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viletomato
Canada277 Posts
On May 12 2010 06:59 Fen wrote: Deus Ex Its a hybrid RPG and FPS On realistic mode, it can be quite tough Actually Deus Ex on realistic mode is still quite easy. For example, upgrade sniper rifle and just kill everything before they even notice you are there. You need to play Deus Ex with handicaps like crow bars only or no upgrades. | ||
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kuresuti
1393 Posts
Not really a full fledged RPG, but it has some RPG elements in there. Just make sure to crank the damage sliders to "Normal" which is the hardest. | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On May 12 2010 07:31 viletomato wrote: Actually Deus Ex on realistic mode is still quite easy. For example, upgrade sniper rifle and just kill everything before they even notice you are there. You need to play Deus Ex with handicaps like crow bars only or no upgrades. Hmm this is only true when your character got enough Xp. The beginning when you have shitty weapons, no ammo and poor skills isn't that easy. | ||
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Psyonic_Reaver
United States4342 Posts
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IMlemon
Lithuania296 Posts
You should consider trying out roguelikes, like dungeon crawl. | ||
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Nao
Poland166 Posts
On May 12 2010 07:48 IMlemon wrote: I second that, most rougelikes are quite hard.It will be hard to find a hard RPG. You should consider trying out roguelikes, like dungeon crawl. My personal favorite is ADOM, and there are many more others, even something like good old Doom rougelike for example (it's awesome). | ||
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noddyz
United Kingdom462 Posts
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SilverSkyLark
Philippines8437 Posts
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Caos2
United States1728 Posts
Most of my experiences come from consoles, PC's rpgs appear to be more difficult, like Baldur's Gate, Morrowind, Ultima series, etc. I heard the Might & Magic series can be quite difficult if you can stay away from the exploits. A game you haven't played but that's quite easy is Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic. Just AMAZING. And, finally, in the turn-based strategy games (you played X-Com, the best there is) you can try Jagged Alliance and Mission Force: Cyberstorm (a personal favorite of mine, buy mechs, customize them, clone a pilot and drug him! Ah, the joys of gaming before the political correctness squad ever existed) . I also heard nice things about Master of Magic. On May 12 2010 06:46 Tump wrote: You can still play some of the Final Fantasy games with a "challenge." I.e. no Magic, no inns, etc etc. There's several "challeneges" out there that make them much more fun/challenging. GL HF ^^ I do this all the time, Phantasy Star IV without using inns, Skies of Arcadia without buying equipment, etc. If you look at Realms Beyond Diablo that are tons of these "challenges", some silly and some are really interesting, like the Amazon and Gothic for Diablo 1. Final Fantasy Tactics fit in this too. On May 12 2010 07:07 Reno(TE) wrote: Try psp game FFVII: Crisis core on hard mode. Some points are a joke! I tried that, it wasn't really difficult but boring. Enemies had tons of HP but that's that. | ||
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cujo2k
Canada1044 Posts
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
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RageOverdose
United States690 Posts
I seriously need to be playing Baulder's Gate though. | ||
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starfries
Canada3508 Posts
On May 12 2010 07:56 Nao wrote: I second that, most rougelikes are quite hard. My personal favorite is ADOM, and there are many more others, even something like good old Doom rougelike for example (it's awesome). thirded, roguelikes are a whole different league of hard. it's very easy to make mistakes, mistakes usually lead to death, and death is permanent (meaning you have to start from the beginning again) Also I recommend Transcendence, it's not really a fantasy rpg but more in the style of Escape Velocity Nova (which is also good if you haven't tried it). you're in a spaceship and you kill other ships for loot and visit space stations instead of towns. same rpg formula but with a spaceship instead of a character. | ||
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G3CKO
Canada1430 Posts
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ghermination
United States2851 Posts
So difficult Someone said oblivion before... with the difficulty slider all the way up and a few difficulty increasing mods it can be really hard. | ||
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