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Arrian
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States889 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-10 22:33:34
May 10 2010 22:30 GMT
#1
I'm a little steamed about this actually. Earlier today I had a lesson w/incontrol and his main piece of advise to me was to better use my overlords. I drew a protoss on LT, and with inc's advise in mind I sent an overlord straight to the 6 o'clock.

On its way, it spotted a sneaky probe dropping a pylon below the cliff. Also thanks to inc, I had gone 13 pool 15 hatch instead of 14 hatch as I'm accustomed. My lings absolutely destroyed his proxy 2 gates.

Then he accuses me of hacking and says he's going to report me. I don't know how/if I get to state my case or if they see the replay but I really want to get my side in, because anybody watching this replay, not even the lowliest of rts players would not see that I saw his proxy and that I responded how any sane individual would.

tl;dr version: he proxied, I spotted it & destroyed it, and now he's reporting me for abuse because he thinks I'm hacking. What should I do?

Here's the rep:
http://rapidshare.com/files/385822585/arrian_v_guy.SC2Replay.html

EDIT: btw rapidshare is saying that it can only be downloaded ten times, so in case other people after that want to watch it i can reupload it

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hrmM
Profile Joined November 2005
United States210 Posts
May 10 2010 22:33 GMT
#2
i doubt anything will happen
they'd watch the replay and realize it was some guy that was just an angry sore loser
i'm also assuming what you've said is what happened since i'm at a school computer lab and can't watch the rep atm
sMi.hrmM 勇气
illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-10 22:37:37
May 10 2010 22:36 GMT
#3
I remember when I played Warcraft 3 I was very found of using Shades (an invisible scout; kind of like an observer but you can't even see the blur) to scout so I could attack my opponent when he was most vulnerable. About 3/4 times my opponent would accuse me of cheating, but I never get banned. Most of the time, I think, my opponent was just angry and felt like lashing out.

The reality is, I honestly do not think Blizzard will ban you. Typically they ban people based on some kind of systematic detection of cheating devices, such as public maphacks. Examining replays case-by-case is simply too time-consuming and generates too much bias - I honestly doubt they'd do that except in extreme cases.
:]
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9107 Posts
May 10 2010 22:44 GMT
#4
Just say "watch replay from my perspective t.t" and that's all you can do I guess. I really doubt blizz just bans everyone who is reported since there are dumb people out there.
ramen247
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1256 Posts
May 10 2010 22:45 GMT
#5
The guy is a big baby. Just because he threatens to report you does not mean he will. He just wants redemption for the pain you caused him. I can already see that you are terrified, and thus his plan was a success.
i hate this ugly firebat. i want a marine.
LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10829 Posts
May 10 2010 22:48 GMT
#6
you've never had this stuff happen to you before? pubs cry about this on b.net all the time...
ModeratorResident K-POP Elitist
Arrian
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States889 Posts
May 10 2010 22:57 GMT
#7
nope. is it common??
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Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
May 10 2010 22:58 GMT
#8
Haha, nothing new. This happens all the time. Just the other day I ran into some guy who I completely crushed in a TvT. He went on crying about how I was map hacking and that I was mirroring everything he did (even though I'm Terran and have scan). Then he went onto threaten me by reporting me. I just laughed at him and typed "you have bad gg timing"

Nothing you can do. Just laugh it off, as kids these days can be complete morons.
God Bless
Deleted User 55994
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
949 Posts
May 10 2010 23:03 GMT
#9
Nothing will happen lol. Never listen to anyone who says anything like this, blizzards hack prevention methods aren't based on player reports at all from my experience and more based on detection anyway.
iCCup.Nove
Profile Joined March 2010
United States260 Posts
May 10 2010 23:05 GMT
#10
There is no need to worry at all. I've also been told that i've been 'reported' but nothing has happened. Is there even a reliable way to 'report' someone? I haven't taken the time to look.
Klapdout
Profile Joined August 2007
United States282 Posts
May 10 2010 23:10 GMT
#11
very common in every game ;P nothing will happen, just be happy its not an fps where server admins perm-ban you for owning them.
Nal_rAwr
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2611 Posts
May 10 2010 23:13 GMT
#12
you're not going to get banned

Nony is Bonjwa
pshych0
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
274 Posts
May 10 2010 23:18 GMT
#13
welcome to bnet
shit happens
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24761 Posts
May 10 2010 23:21 GMT
#14
I've been accused of hacking in sc1/2 many times and most of the time they say they are gonna report me... just laugh it off haha
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
May 10 2010 23:22 GMT
#15
Blizzard's support staff is possibly the best support staff out of any game. They will make a reasonable judgement so you won't be banned.
Butigroove
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Seychelles2061 Posts
May 10 2010 23:24 GMT
#16
ARRIAN STOP SEXUALLY HARASSING ME BEFORE I REPORT YOU AGAIN
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infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-10 23:35:59
May 10 2010 23:27 GMT
#17
haha it's really common for people to do that. It's just another way of bm

I just got called a 'wc3 noob' by some zerg cause i went 1 reaper -> 1 hellion -> 1 banshee -> 1 thor into mass MMM and destroyed him lol

edited for accuracy
Official Entusman #21
Arrian
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States889 Posts
May 10 2010 23:32 GMT
#18
On May 11 2010 08:27 infinity21 wrote:
haha it's really common for people to do that. It's just another way of bm

I just got called a 'wc3 noob' by some zerg cause i went reaper -> hellion -> thor into mass MMM and destroyed him lol


if only you could report bunker rushes...
Writersator arepo tenet opera rotas
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
May 10 2010 23:35 GMT
#19
Has reporting actually done anything to anyone?

In fact has Blizzard taken notice of any posted evidence of maphacking or other abuse?

They're not rhetorical questions by the way.
No I'm never serious.
cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
May 10 2010 23:35 GMT
#20
It happens that when I'm raging after a loss, I accuse the other player of hacking and sending the replay to blizzard etc., but obviously I'm just trolling ... sometimes they start to explain me in detail how they scouted what I was doing and that they never hack -.- makes me feel bad because they take it serious lol.
Kezzer
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1268 Posts
May 10 2010 23:37 GMT
#21
Blizzard isn't going to blindly ban anyone. Imagine if anyone could report someone just because they lost and get someone banned. Blizzard investigates.


BTW, when are we gonna play our games?
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
May 10 2010 23:37 GMT
#22
On May 11 2010 08:32 Arrian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2010 08:27 infinity21 wrote:
haha it's really common for people to do that. It's just another way of bm

I just got called a 'wc3 noob' by some zerg cause i went reaper -> hellion -> thor into mass MMM and destroyed him lol


if only you could report bunker rushes...

haha it was a spur of the moment thing

most of my builds in sc2 aren't planned out so I tend to try out a lot of random things as I go along
Official Entusman #21
Arrian
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States889 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-10 23:47:21
May 10 2010 23:44 GMT
#23
On May 11 2010 08:37 BDF92 wrote:
Blizzard isn't going to blindly ban anyone. Imagine if anyone could report someone just because they lost and get someone banned. Blizzard investigates.


BTW, when are we gonna play our games?


Add me and we'll go. I'm on pretty frequently, although summer work will be coming up in about 2 weeks. B.net name is Arrian.xtrm

On May 11 2010 08:37 infinity21 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2010 08:32 Arrian wrote:
On May 11 2010 08:27 infinity21 wrote:
haha it's really common for people to do that. It's just another way of bm

I just got called a 'wc3 noob' by some zerg cause i went reaper -> hellion -> thor into mass MMM and destroyed him lol


if only you could report bunker rushes...

haha it was a spur of the moment thing

most of my builds in sc2 aren't planned out so I tend to try out a lot of random things as I go along


It was funny because your scout disappeared and I was like 'he could be bunker rushing me...nah, fellow tl.netters wouldn't do that to each other, right? Sure is weird his scout is gone. Maybe he was just checking on my hatchery.'

WRONG! I chortled to myself when I saw your bunker--already completed. It was one of those shake your head and smile moments. And when I said I'd never played against that before it wasn't the bunker rush, it was the hellion>banshee. Ironically the very next guy the guy did the same thing. Rips hydras to pieces . BTW you broke like an 11 game winning streak for me (minus two frustrating disconnects because my modem sucks and my landlord refuses to fix it)
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Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
May 11 2010 00:00 GMT
#24
On May 11 2010 07:48 LosingID8 wrote:
you've never had this stuff happen to you before? pubs cry about this on b.net all the time...


It happens in every online competitive game (as opposed to co-op). God knows how many times I've been accused of hacking in DotA. If someone was serious about you hacking, they rarely straight up say it during the game. They'll spec you or watch (and/or analyze) the replay. His response was knee-jerk and you really don't have a worry.
Get it by your hands...
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
May 11 2010 00:02 GMT
#25
oh my bad haha
in my defense I went 12 rax

I use hellion -> banshee a lot in my TvZs. Then I'm allowed to transition to all sorts of stuff (read: marauder medivac)

On a side note, has anyone noticed a huge amount of bm lately? When I first got beta, everyone was so friendly, chatting away -- and now at the end of every game I'm getting some weird stuff like "oh you're pathetic", "wow you're so lucky you noob", etc.
Official Entusman #21
Navane
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Netherlands2751 Posts
May 11 2010 00:06 GMT
#26
Haha, a few days ago I accidentally scouted a proxy barracks, an inbase (at 3th) factory and a sneak expansion with lings and overlords. The guy was all like maphack!
Arrian
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States889 Posts
May 11 2010 00:08 GMT
#27
On May 11 2010 09:02 infinity21 wrote:
oh my bad haha
in my defense I went 12 rax

I use hellion -> banshee a lot in my TvZs. Then I'm allowed to transition to all sorts of stuff (read: marauder medivac)

On a side note, has anyone noticed a huge amount of bm lately? When I first got beta, everyone was so friendly, chatting away -- and now at the end of every game I'm getting some weird stuff like "oh you're pathetic", "wow you're so lucky you noob", etc.


I like the hellion banshee build. I'm gonna have to learn to fight it because standard roach/hydra is not the thing to do. Should be fun!

Anyway, yeah I'm completely with you. When I first played beta everyone was like super manner I was so impressed and lately it's been not as much. I mean, yeah, most games are still manner or neutral but when I first played there was hardly a game where a guy got all defensive and bm in the end.
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Dr.Dragoon
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1241 Posts
May 11 2010 00:13 GMT
#28
For me, most people are still pretty manner..haven't really had many people just straight out bm me, though protoss players seem to get really angry when I build reapers. Other than that, most people seem pretty cool about things, though I do get the occasional "lift off and kill me" response.
~o~ I have returned
NonFactor
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden698 Posts
May 11 2010 00:17 GMT
#29
Don't worry about it, this is very normal. And you really can't do anything till you get banned, and that's when you e-mail the support making your case. But that won't happen.

All he did was rage, and out of rage he called you hacker because he's a sore loser and a noob at the game. Now when he said he was gonna report you, he was probably only saying hoping it would freak you out. Mission complished I assume.

Back in iCCup people would sometimes get BM me, start calling me names, wishing me dead etc. Knowing the rules I just respond calmly, but I also say ''I hope you enjoy your ban'', some people just laugh, some people leave instantly, some people start freaking out. Sometimes the result was hilarious for example this one dude started to lie and tried to convince me that he's a GM. Didn't go to well. Of course I won't report them for being BM because it's not worth my effort, but I love messing with them.

Anyways, no worries.
eXigent.
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada2419 Posts
May 11 2010 01:30 GMT
#30
the USA beta is chalk full of 13-16yr old WoW retards who are hellbent of flaming the crap out of anyone that beats them. I have come across at least 20-30 people that have gone off the deep end when losing, and just completely make a fool of themselves in the game chat.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
May 11 2010 01:56 GMT
#31
On May 11 2010 08:35 Nytefish wrote:
Has reporting actually done anything to anyone?

In fact has Blizzard taken notice of any posted evidence of maphacking or other abuse?

They're not rhetorical questions by the way.


War3 Ladder before they stopped caring was fairly well regulated.
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