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Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
May 08 2010 05:46 GMT
#1
There is StarcraftRankings.com for 1v1, so you can check what the highest ELO is, but is there something similar for 2v2? The (superior) Wolf and I have been playing 2's, doing pretty well, and we want to know what some of the highest 2v2 ELO's you have seen, we want to make a run at it.

For 1v1 rankings, the highest on Europe is about 2100, so I would think the 2v2 ELO would be a lot lower, maybe even 1800/1900? Any one know any information on the top 2v2 team ATM and their ELO?

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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36379 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-08 06:27:40
May 08 2010 06:05 GMT
#2
I think most older divisions have a high of about 1700 or more, and most of the top 10 have played 100 games or so. you guys only have 30 games in a relatively young division (nobody with 50+ games). it gets much, much harder to win at a good rate after 40-50 games, as all your games will be against all the top teams from other divisions, and you'll have run out of bonus points so losses hurt a lot more.

intrigue and chill are 1800 i think? the top team in their div is 1850 (division 13 too). ive seen a bunch of teams at 1850+. best record.. probably 50-7 or something like that. wonder whats the #1 in div1, probably a really high rating

edit: division 25 has a 1900, 100-25 team
edit: division 12 has a 1550, 35-2 team

ofc, the top rating will rise as more divisions and teams get introduced, the highest i've seen was over 2k before reset
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YoureFired
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States822 Posts
May 08 2010 06:07 GMT
#3
and also, being at a very high number division (84 for you) means you will be going up against a lot more newbs than in the higher and thus older divisions.
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bubblegumbo
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Taiwan1296 Posts
May 08 2010 06:10 GMT
#4
Whats the most popular 2v2 setup in the high levels?(I am still downloading my beta client)
Are there any setups that are inherently inferior?
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36379 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-08 06:16:09
May 08 2010 06:15 GMT
#5
On May 08 2010 15:10 bubblegumbo wrote:
Whats the most popular 2v2 setup in the high levels?(I am still downloading my beta client)
Are there any setups that are inherently inferior?

no idea what the best combo is, but P is generally pretty weak in 2v2 imo. if a good team gets Z/T and does the fast pool + fast reaper, its impossibly hard to hold as protoss.

but only sissies choose races, random+random team is what real men play!!!!
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Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
May 08 2010 06:30 GMT
#6
On May 08 2010 15:05 Hot_Bid wrote:
I think most older divisions have a high of about 1700 or more, and most of the top 10 have played 100 games or so. you guys only have 30 games in a relatively young division (nobody with 50+ games). it gets much, much harder to win at a good rate after 40-50 games, as all your games will be against all the top teams from other divisions, and you'll have run out of bonus points so losses hurt a lot more.

intrigue and chill are 1800 i think? the top team in their div is 1850 (division 13 too). ive seen a bunch of teams at 1850+. best record.. probably 50-7 or something like that. wonder whats the #1 in div1, probably a really high rating

edit: division 25 has a 1900, 100-25 team
edit: division 12 has a 1550, 35-2 team

ofc, the top rating will rise as more divisions and teams get introduced, the highest i've seen was over 2k before reset


OK thanks, that gives us a good idea of the ELOs of some top teams. You said it will get harder after 40-50 games, but is it based on games or ELO?
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36379 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-08 06:37:55
May 08 2010 06:37 GMT
#7
On May 08 2010 15:30 Salv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2010 15:05 Hot_Bid wrote:
I think most older divisions have a high of about 1700 or more, and most of the top 10 have played 100 games or so. you guys only have 30 games in a relatively young division (nobody with 50+ games). it gets much, much harder to win at a good rate after 40-50 games, as all your games will be against all the top teams from other divisions, and you'll have run out of bonus points so losses hurt a lot more.

intrigue and chill are 1800 i think? the top team in their div is 1850 (division 13 too). ive seen a bunch of teams at 1850+. best record.. probably 50-7 or something like that. wonder whats the #1 in div1, probably a really high rating

edit: division 25 has a 1900, 100-25 team
edit: division 12 has a 1550, 35-2 team

ofc, the top rating will rise as more divisions and teams get introduced, the highest i've seen was over 2k before reset


OK thanks, that gives us a good idea of the ELOs of some top teams. You said it will get harder after 40-50 games, but is it based on games or ELO?

it gets harder as you move up (not just based on ELO going up) because the teams at the top generally can't find many teams in that ELO range so they end up winning just a few points for every win. it's also much harder because you exhaust your bonus point pool (no more getting 30+ points per win).

generally, the lower divisions are "harder" and the newer, higher #s divisions are easier to "climb"
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Augury
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States758 Posts
May 08 2010 08:59 GMT
#8
Higher level games are all Z/T with reaper/ling
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