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mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-01 06:45:38
May 01 2010 06:33 GMT
#1
KK

so this is freaking hilarious

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=122660

and I wanna talk about it but we can't in thread so I'm making this so we can lol at the nukes and temp bans.

This is pretty severe from Hot_Bid ^_^

MYYYY guess is he's gonna do the temp ban thing, then in 13 days he's gonna have a "free key for everyone" day and they're all gonna feel SO SILLY

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Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-01 06:35:48
May 01 2010 06:34 GMT
#2
YEA SO SCARY

On May 01 2010 15:19 Kenpachi wrote:
holy hell so many bans from Hot_Bid for the roulette. It really is a competition O_O...
i was tempted to post there but i value my e-life.

i pressed quote 3 times.. made my heart jump
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Amnesia
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3818 Posts
May 01 2010 06:35 GMT
#3
This is an amazing idea haha.
nTooMuch
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States127 Posts
May 01 2010 06:36 GMT
#4
shits scary. thank god i already have a key and dont have to resort to that
mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-01 06:36:50
May 01 2010 06:36 GMT
#5
2 new ban pages in like 10 minutes

ho
ly
SHIT

I had no idea people were that desperate @_@
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bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
May 01 2010 06:36 GMT
#6
Lol, it's hilarious.

The traffic in that thread has slowed down considerably, though.
JSH
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4109 Posts
May 01 2010 06:37 GMT
#7
hahaha
awesome thread

props to Hot_Bid for this awesome idea xD

And congratulations on the lucky winners~

Free Key for Everyone day xD
"It's called a miracle because it doesn't happen" - Just like my chances of reaching C- on ICCUP
dkpl
Profile Joined March 2009
Canada1485 Posts
May 01 2010 06:37 GMT
#8
I found out I had 24 posts, so I made one more post in somebody's blog so I can fit myself into the roulette. Thread was still open when I went back, but was closed when I hit post :/

Probably for the best, since I'd have end up on the bottom of page 3 and gotten banned
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-01 06:38:44
May 01 2010 06:38 GMT
#9
More pages tomorrow, gonna sleep. The winners were SUPER happy haha, like instead of getting punched in the face someone gives you a cookie.
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Graham
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada1259 Posts
May 01 2010 06:38 GMT
#10
I love how all the official TL.net beta key contests take contests to a whole new psychological level, haha. I'm surprised there wasn't more people flooding into that thread though (same goes with the low count of <25 post members).
mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
May 01 2010 06:39 GMT
#11
On May 01 2010 15:38 Hot_Bid wrote:
More pages tomorrow, gonna sleep. The winners were SUPER happy haha, like instead of getting punched in the face someone gives you a cookie.


roooooofl
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Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
May 01 2010 06:43 GMT
#12
Best idea ever! XD Hot_Bid is an evil genius!
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Invictus
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Singapore2697 Posts
May 01 2010 06:45 GMT
#13
On May 01 2010 15:38 Hot_Bid wrote:
More pages tomorrow, gonna sleep. The winners were SUPER happy haha, like instead of getting punched in the face someone gives you a cookie.



HAHA feels so ironic
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Gliche
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States811 Posts
May 01 2010 06:47 GMT
#14
what a lot of people don't realize i think, is that the ban also stops you from participating in future beta key contests for 2 weeks

that's pretty harsh o_O
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Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3684 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-01 06:51:41
May 01 2010 06:51 GMT
#15
This is amazing! Props to Hot_bid for such a good idea. I'm really tempted to roll the dice.

Edit: Hell, I don't even REALLY need the key. I've been mooching a friend's account. However, this is just so appealing.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
May 01 2010 06:52 GMT
#16
god this is such a great idea
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
May 01 2010 06:54 GMT
#17
That thread made me LOL so hard. Best beta-key contest yet.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
May 01 2010 07:00 GMT
#18
I fucking rofled when I saw the thread.

Anyways, I hope this starts the mass ban spree from the mods. HotBid is clearly doing this to inflate his ban count.
God Bless
Draconizard
Profile Joined October 2008
628 Posts
May 01 2010 07:01 GMT
#19
The risk is not nearly high enough, and the participation threshold is much too low. It should be a one to three month long ban, and the required post count should be much higher (somewhere in the hundreds). Furthermore, the posts in the thread itself should require some more effort beyond simply hitting enter.
Raelcun
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States3747 Posts
May 01 2010 07:02 GMT
#20
My blog got closed cuz it was 3 minutes after mOnion's curse your faster typing! Anyways I still think it's a plot by Hot_Bid to increase his ban count to catch up to Manifesto7.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
May 01 2010 07:03 GMT
#21
I don't think it was that great of an idea. I would never have given a key to anyone who was willing to give up 2 weeks of TL for it.
Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-01 07:05:04
May 01 2010 07:04 GMT
#22
He just wants to beat Mani for ban king title :X
EDIT: already three comments about this XD
mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
May 01 2010 07:04 GMT
#23
On May 01 2010 16:01 Draconizard wrote:
The risk is not nearly high enough, and the participation threshold is much too low. It should be a one to three month long ban, and the required post count should be much higher (somewhere in the hundreds). Furthermore, the posts in the thread itself should require some more effort beyond simply hitting enter.


argh

i got temp banned for 1 month last time. I thought i was gonna kill myself. i dont understand how people lurk on this site @_@ every time i see some new thread i'm just like a kid in a candy shop with free candy MUST POST NAO

2 weeks is tough x.x
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Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
May 01 2010 07:09 GMT
#24
Gotta agree with Monion. Once you get in a rhythm of posting, it's just too hard to all of a sudden stop. Even though you can read, there's bound to be times when you just want to post, like in this blog for example.
God Bless
Draconizard
Profile Joined October 2008
628 Posts
May 01 2010 07:10 GMT
#25
On May 01 2010 16:04 mOnion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2010 16:01 Draconizard wrote:
The risk is not nearly high enough, and the participation threshold is much too low. It should be a one to three month long ban, and the required post count should be much higher (somewhere in the hundreds). Furthermore, the posts in the thread itself should require some more effort beyond simply hitting enter.


argh

i got temp banned for 1 month last time. I thought i was gonna kill myself. i dont understand how people lurk on this site @_@ every time i see some new thread i'm just like a kid in a candy shop with free candy MUST POST NAO

2 weeks is tough x.x


I lurked for more than a year before actually bothering to register, and then it was quite a while after registering before I actually made a post. My suggestions are designed to make entering that thread a true risk to the participants. Perhaps a post count requirement is the wrong way to go about it. Upon further reflection, I would make the requirement based on the number of posts / week. This way, those who enter will care greatly (or so it is hoped) if they are banned or not.
mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
May 01 2010 07:13 GMT
#26
On May 01 2010 16:10 Draconizard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2010 16:04 mOnion wrote:
On May 01 2010 16:01 Draconizard wrote:
The risk is not nearly high enough, and the participation threshold is much too low. It should be a one to three month long ban, and the required post count should be much higher (somewhere in the hundreds). Furthermore, the posts in the thread itself should require some more effort beyond simply hitting enter.


argh

i got temp banned for 1 month last time. I thought i was gonna kill myself. i dont understand how people lurk on this site @_@ every time i see some new thread i'm just like a kid in a candy shop with free candy MUST POST NAO

2 weeks is tough x.x


I lurked for more than a year before actually bothering to register, and then it was quite a while after registering before I actually made a post. My suggestions are designed to make entering that thread a true risk to the participants. Perhaps a post count requirement is the wrong way to go about it. Upon further reflection, I would make the requirement based on the number of posts / week. This way, those who enter will care greatly (or so it is hoped) if they are banned or not.


you have such a cool name
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wongi
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia86 Posts
May 01 2010 07:13 GMT
#27
On May 01 2010 15:47 Gliche wrote:
what a lot of people don't realize i think, is that the ban also stops you from participating in future beta key contests for 2 weeks

that's pretty harsh o_O


I guess this pretty much sums it up. You don't just lose Hot_Bid's beta key, but the possibility of other beta key contests in the next 2 weeks.
Raelcun
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States3747 Posts
May 01 2010 07:18 GMT
#28
I lurked for YEARS before I actually started posting regularly I believe my first account has 6 posts and I registered it in 2003, I made this one 2 years ago and actually started posting on it. So thats what 5 years of lurking? Can I get some sort of award for that? But I still wouldn't want a 2 week ban for a CHANCE at a beta key. Not worth it imo.
Draconizard
Profile Joined October 2008
628 Posts
May 01 2010 07:22 GMT
#29
On May 01 2010 16:13 mOnion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2010 16:10 Draconizard wrote:
On May 01 2010 16:04 mOnion wrote:
On May 01 2010 16:01 Draconizard wrote:
The risk is not nearly high enough, and the participation threshold is much too low. It should be a one to three month long ban, and the required post count should be much higher (somewhere in the hundreds). Furthermore, the posts in the thread itself should require some more effort beyond simply hitting enter.


argh

i got temp banned for 1 month last time. I thought i was gonna kill myself. i dont understand how people lurk on this site @_@ every time i see some new thread i'm just like a kid in a candy shop with free candy MUST POST NAO

2 weeks is tough x.x


I lurked for more than a year before actually bothering to register, and then it was quite a while after registering before I actually made a post. My suggestions are designed to make entering that thread a true risk to the participants. Perhaps a post count requirement is the wrong way to go about it. Upon further reflection, I would make the requirement based on the number of posts / week. This way, those who enter will care greatly (or so it is hoped) if they are banned or not.


you have such a cool name


I cannot tell if that is sarcasm or not (Romanian, etc.), but I do not particularly care for it. It's a relic from long ago.

On May 01 2010 16:13 wongi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2010 15:47 Gliche wrote:
what a lot of people don't realize i think, is that the ban also stops you from participating in future beta key contests for 2 weeks

that's pretty harsh o_O


I guess this pretty much sums it up. You don't just lose Hot_Bid's beta key, but the possibility of other beta key contests in the next 2 weeks.


This is true, but I doubt any of those contests (should they even exist) would require such minimal effort as this one..
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
May 01 2010 07:22 GMT
#30
On May 01 2010 16:18 iCCup.Raelcun wrote:
I lurked for YEARS before I actually started posting regularly I believe my first account has 6 posts and I registered it in 2003, I made this one 2 years ago and actually started posting on it. So thats what 5 years of lurking? Can I get some sort of award for that? But I still wouldn't want a 2 week ban for a CHANCE at a beta key. Not worth it imo.

You still are a lurker, look at your icon.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Isas
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada45 Posts
May 01 2010 07:46 GMT
#31
I've been lurking without an account for a while and even since creating my account I haven't posted all that much, but I really don't think I would want a two week ban. I do like the idea though. Very different from any other beta key contests I've seen.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
May 01 2010 07:55 GMT
#32
On May 01 2010 16:22 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2010 16:18 iCCup.Raelcun wrote:
I lurked for YEARS before I actually started posting regularly I believe my first account has 6 posts and I registered it in 2003, I made this one 2 years ago and actually started posting on it. So thats what 5 years of lurking? Can I get some sort of award for that? But I still wouldn't want a 2 week ban for a CHANCE at a beta key. Not worth it imo.

You still are a lurker, look at your icon.

I chuckled, yo.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
May 01 2010 07:57 GMT
#33
You know you have a gambling problem when you feel like entering this even though you have no need for a beta key.... Thankfully this isn't a new revelation to me
Adonai bless
Raelcun
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States3747 Posts
May 01 2010 08:03 GMT
#34
I do like the fact that this will get a lot of the more.... desperate people for beta keys out of the way for 2 weeks and hopefully cut down on the amount of begging going on even though mods have been good with the bans and such for that.
SC2Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2814 Posts
May 01 2010 08:04 GMT
#35
Omg great idea Hot_Bid xD
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way2easy
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden27 Posts
May 01 2010 08:07 GMT
#36
Its a funy idea, but what if he gives out keys during the days we risk getting banned?
I R ZERG!
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
May 01 2010 08:13 GMT
#37
God, I would actually consider doing this since I have exams coming up, and constantly posting on TL isnt going to help me study.
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benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
May 01 2010 08:21 GMT
#38
i think the best part was that a user named LoseAlot posted "beta key time" and won---with style
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hp.Shell
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2527 Posts
May 01 2010 08:52 GMT
#39
And another guy who got a key has 69 posts. lolol
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CakeOrI)eath
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States327 Posts
May 01 2010 08:58 GMT
#40
On May 01 2010 16:02 iCCup.Raelcun wrote:
Anyways I still think it's a plot by Hot_Bid to increase his ban count to catch up to Manifesto7.

Never gonna happen unless Mani goes missing again for a long time.
Opportunities multiply as they are seized.
538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
May 01 2010 09:00 GMT
#41
Pretty damned funny, once again.
Though I'm not surprised by all those low postcount users, go figure they dont value posting on TL. The post requirement should have been a tad higher to make it more interesting.
BW fighting!
Sigh
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2433 Posts
May 01 2010 09:10 GMT
#42
What exactly happens when you get banned? Is it just banned from posting? Or banned from the site altogether... because if that's the case i don't think i can live without TL for 2 weeks.. O.o
Anyway, my friend REAAAAAAAAAAAAALLY wants a key so might try to get him one. What an interesting idea for a contest :D
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ProoM
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Lithuania1741 Posts
May 01 2010 09:18 GMT
#43
I'm surprized that there are so many +500post users in that thread, because just couple days ago Hot_Bid was giving keys to anyone who had 500 or over posts ^_^. (including me, thankssssss hot_bid ^_^)
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thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
May 01 2010 09:29 GMT
#44
Yea, I'm not surprised that the posters are between 25 posts and 100 posts. It doesn't matter to them whether or not they're banned because they post so infrequently anyways.
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Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
May 01 2010 10:11 GMT
#45
Thoery:
Highest post count wins
Ftrunkz
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Australia2474 Posts
May 01 2010 10:14 GMT
#46
On May 01 2010 19:11 Abenson wrote:
Thoery:
Highest post count wins

That would indeed explain the 47 post count guy winning the first page over the 3846 guy.... -_-
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Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
May 01 2010 10:18 GMT
#47
On May 01 2010 19:14 Ftrunkz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2010 19:11 Abenson wrote:
Thoery:
Highest post count wins

That would indeed explain the 47 post count guy winning the first page over the 3846 guy.... -_-


indeed that was the first thing I checked.
disco
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Netherlands1667 Posts
May 01 2010 10:35 GMT
#48
Oh man, must resist gambling. I'd so wanna be all over this even though I already have beta.
this game is a fucking jokie
Trumpet
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1935 Posts
May 01 2010 10:51 GMT
#49
You know, there's nothing to stop us from discussing the Beta Roulette within the Beta Roulette thread, provided you've got the balls to do it and over 25 posts =]

I think even more fun would be locking this thread when the other one reopens. I'd be tempted even though I don't have time for sc2, but we've got a brand new super sf4 thread I don't want to miss out on >.>
Setz3R
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States455 Posts
May 01 2010 11:24 GMT
#50
I wanted to post in that thread so badly, but I feared the banhammer. Most of my dedicated SC2 time is used lurking these forums, what would I do without that! So many nukes in that thread btw, can people NOT read? :\
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Snet *
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States3573 Posts
May 01 2010 11:50 GMT
#51
Lol I like how everyone in that thread is barely over 25 posts.
madnessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1581 Posts
May 01 2010 12:34 GMT
#52
On May 01 2010 18:18 ProoM wrote:
I'm surprized that there are so many +500post users in that thread, because just couple days ago Hot_Bid was giving keys to anyone who had 500 or over posts ^_^. (including me, thankssssss hot_bid ^_^)


wut. i didn't see that.. QQ
Romance_us
Profile Joined March 2006
Seychelles1806 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-01 13:42:13
May 01 2010 13:40 GMT
#53
On May 01 2010 21:34 madnessman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2010 18:18 ProoM wrote:
I'm surprized that there are so many +500post users in that thread, because just couple days ago Hot_Bid was giving keys to anyone who had 500 or over posts ^_^. (including me, thankssssss hot_bid ^_^)


wut. i didn't see that.. QQ


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=122091

This contest is hilarious and well thought out. Now all of the newcomers who joined simply to spam about beta keys can do so appropriately. If you think about it, this is pretty much getting rid of them all as well. The 19/20 who lose will be banned for two weeks and will most likely be too disheartened to come back and try again, while the 1/20 who actually won will now see no need for TL.net anymore or just become addicted to the beta (like all of us). Of course there are exceptions, such as the few veteran members who have tried their luck there. I still don't know why they'd do that though lol.

I guess I'm just appreciative towards anything that is hindering the influx of the not-so-well-intentioned new posters.

edit: Also, I find it so hilarious that those with less than 25 are still posting. It's just like the beta key giveaway thread. It required over 500 and people with ridiculously low amounts were still posting.
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mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
May 01 2010 16:36 GMT
#54
its open again!!!
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Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-01 16:42:16
May 01 2010 16:41 GMT
#55
haha it's open again, and some people already posted, some don't even meet the 25 minimum requirement, do they get banned anyway?

edit - okay never mind, perma ban for people below 25 posts lol
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Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
May 01 2010 16:44 GMT
#56
Seriously, lot of random beta contests are starting to pop up which are just hilarious as hell.


(ponders the irony of low-post member enjoying the sufferings of those who had far more post than I)
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
ZenDeX
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Philippines2916 Posts
May 01 2010 16:46 GMT
#57
Am I the only who is refreshing like mad because of excitement of HB's epic thread?
mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
May 01 2010 16:54 GMT
#58
On May 02 2010 01:46 lolaloc wrote:
Am I the only who is refreshing like mad because of excitement of HB's epic thread?


NOPE

it's so fucking hilarious scrolling down and seeing like 5/20 posts being under 25. Like each one I see makes me laugh a little harder until I spew out my tea ROFL
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Nuttyguy
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom1526 Posts
May 01 2010 16:59 GMT
#59
ahaha what a thread but thats just overkill toying with the beta-less people
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
May 01 2010 17:00 GMT
#60
On May 02 2010 01:59 Nuttyguy wrote:
ahaha what a thread but thats just overkill toying with the beta-less people

You can clearly see TL is slowly preparing its members for the Battle Royale Beta-key Contest that is going to come sooner or later. You mark my words.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3684 Posts
May 01 2010 17:08 GMT
#61
On May 01 2010 18:00 538 wrote:
Pretty damned funny, once again.
Though I'm not surprised by all those low postcount users, go figure they dont value posting on TL. The post requirement should have been a tad higher to make it more interesting.


I suppose it's reasonable fair to generalize that low post count users don't value posting on TL. However, I was considering doing this just for fun. It sounds like a good time. Well, until I get banned for two weeks and regret it after a day or two.
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-01 17:14:01
May 01 2010 17:09 GMT
#62
and it's locked again, here come another wave of bans. I really love this idea, it's funny to watch.
hahaha I can actually see the icons changing to locks as I'm refreshing
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-01 17:23:03
May 01 2010 17:17 GMT
#63
On May 02 2010 02:08 Durak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2010 18:00 538 wrote:
Pretty damned funny, once again.
Though I'm not surprised by all those low postcount users, go figure they dont value posting on TL. The post requirement should have been a tad higher to make it more interesting.


I suppose it's reasonable fair to generalize that low post count users don't value posting on TL. However, I was considering doing this just for fun. It sounds like a good time. Well, until I get banned for two weeks and regret it after a day or two.

As a matter of fact, I considered doing it too very briefly, even though I got a key at the 500+ handout. Gambling always has some weird appeal, and actually I could use two weeks without TL now, as I'm having some crazy times with tests and assignments coming up. But then I realized I really dont want to miss the upcoming OSL semifinals

So I'll just resort to willpower.

Also, I'm not trying to generalize about low post-count users, but a ton of them lately are really just people who signed up for beta-keys, and amassed 5 to 50 mindless posts in the contest threads.
BW fighting!
nbtnbt5
Profile Joined March 2009
232 Posts
May 01 2010 17:25 GMT
#64
Hmm, APs coming up in the next two weeks. I guess it'll be worth it =)
Yellow: "Well boxer's kind of a tool like that, wanting to bunker rush me all the time but hiding it behind all that deception."
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
May 01 2010 18:13 GMT
#65
On May 02 2010 02:25 nbtnbt5 wrote:
Hmm, APs coming up in the next two weeks. I guess it'll be worth it =)

RIP.

Actually, it would be hilarious if Hot_Bid put up much better beta key contest right after this plethora of ban-hammer was made.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
EmeraldSparks
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1451 Posts
May 01 2010 18:17 GMT
#66
On May 02 2010 02:57 EmeraldSparks wrote:
Hot_Bid, I would like to request a two-week temp ban so I can focus on my studies.

If I somehow get a beta key instead this plan will horribly backfire for terrible terrible damage.

TERRIBLE TERRIBLE DAMAGE
But why?
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
May 01 2010 18:20 GMT
#67
On May 02 2010 03:17 EmeraldSparks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2010 02:57 EmeraldSparks wrote:
Hot_Bid, I would like to request a two-week temp ban so I can focus on my studies.

If I somehow get a beta key instead this plan will horribly backfire for terrible terrible damage.

TERRIBLE TERRIBLE DAMAGE

Hey, if it wasn't cruel then it probably wouldn't be hot bid
[SECRET FONT] "Dragoon bunker"
n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
May 01 2010 18:23 GMT
#68
On May 02 2010 03:17 EmeraldSparks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2010 02:57 EmeraldSparks wrote:
Hot_Bid, I would like to request a two-week temp ban so I can focus on my studies.

If I somehow get a beta key instead this plan will horribly backfire for terrible terrible damage.

TERRIBLE TERRIBLE DAMAGE

ROFL I saw this in the thread. I <3 beta roulette
MyLove + Your Love= Supa Love
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
May 01 2010 18:30 GMT
#69
On May 02 2010 03:17 EmeraldSparks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2010 02:57 EmeraldSparks wrote:
Hot_Bid, I would like to request a two-week temp ban so I can focus on my studies.

If I somehow get a beta key instead this plan will horribly backfire for terrible terrible damage.

TERRIBLE TERRIBLE DAMAGE

lol
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
May 01 2010 18:30 GMT
#70
i cant believe spiritofthetuna luckboxed a beta key

wow everyone will think i rig it now
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
May 01 2010 18:34 GMT
#71
I was half tempted to post in that thread just to see if I could be lucky enough to get one. It's like... you know the fire is hot, but you want to swipe your hand through it anyways. Eventually you'll get burned, but it's sort of exciting at the same time.
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
Romance_us
Profile Joined March 2006
Seychelles1806 Posts
May 01 2010 18:37 GMT
#72
Tons of people just got owned again. LOL.
Notes and feelings, numbers and reason. The ultimate equilibrium.
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
May 01 2010 18:39 GMT
#73
This is just a clever way for Hot_bid to increase his ban count.
538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-01 19:06:47
May 01 2010 18:41 GMT
#74
On May 02 2010 03:30 Hot_Bid wrote:
i cant believe spiritofthetuna luckboxed a beta key

wow everyone will think i rig it now

That random.org screenshot is no proof, you could have just rolled it approximately 20 times until it yielded the desired result. But it's ok, he was well-deserving

Also, the banhammer seem to have missed a spot on page 9.
BW fighting!
EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
May 01 2010 18:48 GMT
#75
I think the thread is doing a good job identifying <25 post count posters who don't read the OP. Reading is crucial, so I'm glad HB is encouraging it there. By that I mean I'm glad he's banning those who post before reading >.>
面白くない世の中, 面白くすればいいさ
Nuttyguy
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom1526 Posts
May 01 2010 19:20 GMT
#76
check out the automated ban list like over 8 pages of
i have my reasons from HB lol
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
May 01 2010 20:11 GMT
#77
On May 02 2010 03:41 538 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2010 03:30 Hot_Bid wrote:
i cant believe spiritofthetuna luckboxed a beta key

wow everyone will think i rig it now

That random.org screenshot is no proof, you could have just rolled it approximately 20 times until it yielded the desired result. But it's ok, he was well-deserving

Also, the banhammer seem to have missed a spot on page 9.

I could have, but i rolled it the instant the page closed once (check time on my comp). I guess I could have changed the time on my computer or photoshopped the image, but I could also just create a contest "hotbid picks the winner" or just give a key to Spiritofthetuna normally, because we have the keys lol. So theres really no incentive for me to "cheat" because I can "legally cheat" anyway.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
ZenDeX
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Philippines2916 Posts
May 01 2010 20:14 GMT
#78
On May 02 2010 05:11 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2010 03:41 538 wrote:
On May 02 2010 03:30 Hot_Bid wrote:
i cant believe spiritofthetuna luckboxed a beta key

wow everyone will think i rig it now

That random.org screenshot is no proof, you could have just rolled it approximately 20 times until it yielded the desired result. But it's ok, he was well-deserving

Also, the banhammer seem to have missed a spot on page 9.

I could have, but i rolled it the instant the page closed once (check time on my comp). I guess I could have changed the time on my computer or photoshopped the image, but I could also just create a contest "hotbid picks the winner" or just give a key to Spiritofthetuna normally, because we have the keys lol. So theres really no incentive for me to "cheat" because I can "legally cheat" anyway.

I am curious on how to avoid being accused of rigging through a virtual draw. Good thing no one has accused me so far in my raffle contests.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
May 01 2010 20:21 GMT
#79
there's really no way to 100% prove it, they just have to trust you
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
May 01 2010 20:59 GMT
#80
On May 02 2010 05:21 Hot_Bid wrote:
there's really no way to 100% prove it, they just have to trust you

Actually you could have waited all 10 pages to fill up, turn on your computer screen recorder, go to random number generator, and post video of you determining 10 winners CONSECUTIVELY. Because there are (1/20)^10 possibilities, it will effectively nullify other's argument that you could simply repeat yourself until the winners you want are determined.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
May 01 2010 21:10 GMT
#81
On May 02 2010 05:59 Hesmyrr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2010 05:21 Hot_Bid wrote:
there's really no way to 100% prove it, they just have to trust you

Actually you could have waited all 10 pages to fill up, turn on your computer screen recorder, go to random number generator, and post video of you determining 10 winners CONSECUTIVELY. Because there are (1/20)^10 possibilities, it will effectively nullify other's argument that you could simply repeat yourself until the winners you want are determined.


Or people could just accept that if a veteran like Spiritofthetuna didn't have a key he could probably just PM a mod and get one anyways :p
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
May 01 2010 22:01 GMT
#82
HAHA so many being perma banned pretty hilarious. I don't really want to be banned because I want to be able to post in the ufc 113 thread but... Will probably play since i need a key -_-

Funny game as hell
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
May 01 2010 22:12 GMT
#83
Lol there is no point claiming hb rigs it as he doesn't have to rig it to give away keys he could easy just slip people he wants keys he clearly has them just laying around.

Also i see hotbid is using the new Post # system to his advantage lol

Now if i was someone wanting it i would create 19 accounts log into my neighbors Internet then fill up the whole page with people getting pema banned ppl.
beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-01 23:01:10
May 01 2010 22:58 GMT
#84
I wonder if Rekrul is the one that caused HB to get this idea
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=121834
On May 01 2010 18:18 ProoM wrote:
I'm surprized that there are so many +500post users in that thread, because just couple days ago Hot_Bid was giving keys to anyone who had 500 or over posts ^_^. (including me, thankssssss hot_bid ^_^)

How did I miss that thread WOW
good thing Jacobmedcp did his you tube giveaway because I would be dieing right now for missing it...
I think I would post in this 'get or ban', good thing I don't have to
gl to participants
wwww
Flakes
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States3125 Posts
May 01 2010 23:17 GMT
#85
I occasionally read the automated ban list because some of the entries are hilarious, and didn't find out about the roulette until scrolling through five pages of HB bans lol (imma throw in my lot if it's back up later, maybe two weeks will be enough time to think up a constructive post)
Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
May 01 2010 23:41 GMT
#86
Lol that game is so ridiculous, I would participate myself except I dont want to get banned for a 1 out of 20 chance of getting a key.
Lee Young Ho fighting! KT P are just CHINTOSSTIC.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8091 Posts
May 02 2010 02:45 GMT
#87
the thread will go down in internet history, no doubt about it.

possibly one of the most important threads made in the history of the internet really.
Free Palestine
Catyoul *
Profile Joined April 2004
France2377 Posts
May 02 2010 03:01 GMT
#88
That has to be the most hilarious beta key giveaway threads <3
[NyC]HoBbes
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States803 Posts
May 02 2010 04:01 GMT
#89
Awesome idea. I'm just glad I got a key before, I would have felt tempted to enter
Where'er you walk cool gales shall fan the glade
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
May 02 2010 09:59 GMT
#90
Eh I dunno if it would ever be worht it if you posted regularly here. Then again most of those people have beta keys already.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
May 02 2010 10:15 GMT
#91
Thank god I got my key tonight. Got one from that guy giving out thousands to people who subscribe to his youtube acct.
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
May 02 2010 10:22 GMT
#92
I'd post in it but...what if someone obscenely stupid comes along? Who will mock and berate them, if not I? who?!?
43084 | Honeybadger: "So july, you're in the GSL finals. How do you feel?!" ~ July: "HUNGRY."
garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
May 02 2010 17:51 GMT
#93
I guess the mods can probably figure it out, but someone could greatly increase their chances by spamming a page with "<25 posts" posters.
Even during difficult times, when I sat down to play the game, there were times where it felt like god has descended down and played [for me].
Thegilaboy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2018 Posts
May 02 2010 17:52 GMT
#94
On May 02 2010 19:22 TheAntZ wrote:
I'd post in it but...what if someone obscenely stupid comes along? Who will mock and berate them, if not I? who?!?


You still need a key TheAntZ?
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8031 Posts
May 02 2010 19:32 GMT
#95
On May 03 2010 02:51 garbanzo wrote:
I guess the mods can probably figure it out, but someone could greatly increase their chances by spamming a page with "<25 posts" posters.

Mods have the ability to tell if users are using alternate accounts, so your main account would probably be banned for that.
Liquipedia
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
May 03 2010 07:05 GMT
#96
On May 03 2010 02:52 Thegilaboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2010 19:22 TheAntZ wrote:
I'd post in it but...what if someone obscenely stupid comes along? Who will mock and berate them, if not I? who?!?


You still need a key TheAntZ?

Nope, but i still have friends without keys :p
43084 | Honeybadger: "So july, you're in the GSL finals. How do you feel?!" ~ July: "HUNGRY."
pyr0ma5ta
Profile Joined May 2010
United States458 Posts
May 04 2010 17:57 GMT
#97
The Ban thread is hilarious as a result of this contest. So good.
"I made you a zergling, but I eated it." - Defiler
Speedbump
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
New Zealand338 Posts
May 04 2010 20:51 GMT
#98
Such a funny contest to read over. I didn't want to go for it though. (as my luck is rather shit, and I didn't want terrible terrible damage to happen to my Liquibet or Fantasy Team)
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
May 15 2010 17:27 GMT
#99
motherfuck 2 weeks is a long time
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
DrivE
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States2554 Posts
May 15 2010 20:13 GMT
#100
On May 16 2010 02:27 HeavOnEarth wrote:
motherfuck 2 weeks is a long time

LUCK IS NO EXCUSE
Kurai
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada167 Posts
May 16 2010 05:34 GMT
#101
my ban was way too long T_T
numLoCK
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada1416 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-16 05:36:17
May 16 2010 05:35 GMT
#102
Man that was soo painful. I didn't know there was a 500 posts for betakey thread, tried so hard to get people to post in it for me. That was a harsh couple of days lol.
Good to be back though, and I finally got a key a couple of days ago ^.^
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