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yarkO
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada810 Posts
April 10 2010 20:28 GMT
#501
Thanks for the scoop, Rek.
When you are prepared, there's no such thing as pressure.
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
April 10 2010 20:39 GMT
#502
oh my god...

need list asap ...

this will be so good
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
April 10 2010 20:40 GMT
#503
Thanks rekrul for the information.

I really hope July isn't on this "list" I'll be very disappointed. : (
We have multiple brackets generated in advance. Relax . (Kennigit) I just simply do not understand how it can be the time to play can be 22nd at 9:30 pm PST / midnight the 23rd at the same time. (GGzerg)
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
April 10 2010 20:41 GMT
#504
On April 10 2010 15:36 johanes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2010 15:33 MYM.Testie wrote:
STARCRAFT IS THE WRESTLING OF E-SPORTS!!!!

e-sports is the starcraft of wrestling

Lim Yo Hwan forever!
Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
April 10 2010 20:44 GMT
#505
The game I saw which most blatantly looked "fixed" was in the PL Playoffs last year, Hwasin vs Juni. Hwasin bunker-rushed but misplaced his bunker, but Juni is so terrible Hwasin still won. He couldn't convincingly not win. The whole game was weird as hell.

Re. Luxury vs Jangbi MSL finals: that looked (at the time) like solid but uninspired play by a poor PvZ'er getting crushed by a Zerg who looked better during that tournament run than he'd ever looked before. It didn't seem suspicious - I mean poor PvZ vs poor ZvP, something's got to give, right? - and Luxury had been playing like a maniac.

Re. this set of accusations: if we assume a "handle it quietly" mentality is in place, the current top suspects would be the decent or well-known players kicked down to B-team for no "obvious" reason in the last few months: Rock, sAviOr, Justin, UpMagic, SangHo, Luxury, July. (Okay, Rock sucks, but he stayed on roster for a year and a half of PL for no good reason.)

If there really have been legal actions taken as well, should we look as well at people who have been missing games for one reason or another lately? This would add Hwasin, Bisu, and Jaedong to the list of "suspects", in that order of decreasing suspiciousness (I think).

Next point: Is team management involved? Consider:
- KHAN has been very unwilling to play newer players over the last few years, even when older players started slipping. Counterpoint: Round One of 2009-2010 season and the utterly sucky results.
- OZ's bizarre attitudes about players: Coach Cho's overwork but overprotectiveness of JD, the weird fOrGG to KT trade.
- eSTRO sucking ass in general despite what ought to have been a roster at least as talented as mediocre teams like Stars or last year's MBC.

Finally, from last night's PL: Killer vs Bogus. Discuss.

I really don't want this to be true. On the other hand, the incentives have been pointed out, and that's hard to deny. Between incentives and a certain willingness in Korean culture to accept cheating as a legitimate means to "success" (I had my mental image of the "Asian classroom" jarred severely when I went to teach in Korea last year), the whole thing is surprisingly plausible. I'd like hard evidence before I really pass final judgment though.
Don't Shoot the Penguins. | Dance, 성은, dance! | Killer FanKlub | Action sucks. | Storm Terran hwaiting.
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
April 10 2010 20:45 GMT
#506
Man, this shit is going to put a stain all over Korean e-sports. The biggest thing will be to see the fan reactions over there when this all gets settled.

I do believe this is 100% true. I fucking believed it at the very first post. Don't know why any of you would of doubted it will all the recent roster changes and shit going on.
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
April 10 2010 20:51 GMT
#507
On April 11 2010 05:45 tonight wrote:
Man, this shit is going to put a stain all over Korean e-sports. The biggest thing will be to see the fan reactions over there when this all gets settled.

I do believe this is 100% true. I fucking believed it at the very first post. Don't know why any of you would of doubted it will all the recent roster changes and shit going on.


I just hope EVERYONE that participated in this nonsense gets caught honestly. I want them all to be exposed and hopefully they'll lose their precious fan cafes lol
We have multiple brackets generated in advance. Relax . (Kennigit) I just simply do not understand how it can be the time to play can be 22nd at 9:30 pm PST / midnight the 23rd at the same time. (GGzerg)
Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
April 10 2010 20:51 GMT
#508
On April 11 2010 05:45 tonight wrote:
I do believe this is 100% true. I fucking believed it at the very first post. Don't know why any of you would of doubted it will all the recent roster changes and shit going on.


You believe what is true? Fact is, we still don't know shit about this. It could be huge, it could be a small number of games, OR it could be just rumors.
I know that deep inside of you there's a humongous set of testicles just waiting to pop out. Let 'em pop bro. //////////////////// AKA JensOfSweden // Lee Yoon Yeol forever.
Espers
Profile Joined August 2009
United Kingdom606 Posts
April 10 2010 20:52 GMT
#509
ok so maybe Jaehoon doesn't blow after all
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13922 Posts
April 10 2010 20:56 GMT
#510
On April 11 2010 05:52 Espers wrote:
ok so maybe Jaehoon doesn't blow after all

no hes just that bad
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Romance_us
Profile Joined March 2006
Seychelles1806 Posts
April 10 2010 21:03 GMT
#511
On April 11 2010 04:20 Little-Chimp wrote:
It would be interesting to find out which games were thrown, and rewatch them.


Beyond interesting. Like, I very badly want to do this.
Notes and feelings, numbers and reason. The ultimate equilibrium.
PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
April 10 2010 21:05 GMT
#512
On April 11 2010 06:03 Romance_us wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2010 04:20 Little-Chimp wrote:
It would be interesting to find out which games were thrown, and rewatch them.


Beyond interesting. Like, I very badly want to do this.


Same, it would be definitely be beyond interesting.
We have multiple brackets generated in advance. Relax . (Kennigit) I just simply do not understand how it can be the time to play can be 22nd at 9:30 pm PST / midnight the 23rd at the same time. (GGzerg)
cujo2k
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada1044 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-10 21:10:51
April 10 2010 21:07 GMT
#513
On April 11 2010 02:10 Live2Win wrote:
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On April 11 2010 01:47 AppleTart wrote:
I want some evidence. There's a lot of talk about 100% and "no joke" taken to court? Until I get an official source or article on this I'm not buying it. In addition, if they were taken to court I'm pretty sure people would have already caught on and the coaches and their teamates would be like wtf. If you go to court people know >>, It's in ur records

Honestly though, I'm worried.... cuz there are some subtle hints about this stuff being true.

1) PL changed their format of releasing their lineup ahead of time. They explained this was specifically to help prevent illegal betting.

2) The names exposed the most for taking part in this kind of illegal betting (Luxury, UpMagic) were moved down to B-Team in the last april roster. Although this may not necessarily mean it's proof, you do have to be suspicious.


O_O that's pretty messed up. I guess Rekrul was prolly telling the truth then. I mean eSTRO is so bad and UpMagic is one of their aces, so if he went down to the B team, it's very suspicious.
Luxury I can kinda see, but even so, I think that KT wishes they'd have Luxury when they're forced to send out Hoejja.

sAviOr being involved in this is kinda obvious IMO; the guy slumped waaaaay too hard to be legit.
I think the only two current top players that we can know forsure are clean are JD and FlaSh. They've both claimed to be very interested in breaking starcraft records related to winning, and they've consistently dominated everything.
THE ANSWER IS 288
pubbanana
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3063 Posts
April 10 2010 21:12 GMT
#514
I wonder who they bribed on the OGN media staff to put fucking Forever The Sickest Kids as the intro music.
Wachet, stehet im Glauben, seid männlich und seid stark.
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
April 10 2010 21:17 GMT
#515
On April 11 2010 05:51 Foucault wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2010 05:45 tonight wrote:
I do believe this is 100% true. I fucking believed it at the very first post. Don't know why any of you would of doubted it will all the recent roster changes and shit going on.


You believe what is true? Fact is, we still don't know shit about this. It could be huge, it could be a small number of games, OR it could be just rumors.

What do you mean "You believe what is true?". If you step back and look at all the recent activity that's been going on in the scene and the things we're now hearing from Korean e-sports sites and from the netzens it makes a lot of sense. A small number of games is still huge and I think we're past rumors at this point. Without any concrete evidence that we know of yet we're past rumors.
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
April 10 2010 21:18 GMT
#516
On April 11 2010 06:12 pubbanana wrote:
I wonder who they bribed on the OGN media staff to put fucking Forever The Sickest Kids as the intro music.

MSL this week was playing that Paramore song over and over, so probably that same guy.
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
ZeroCartin
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2390 Posts
April 10 2010 21:19 GMT
#517
After rekrul posts vid, there must be korean subs and posted everywhere. ALL HAIL TEAMLIQUID
"My sister is on vacation in Costa Rica right now. I hope she stays a while because she's a miserable cunt." -pubbanana
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
April 10 2010 21:20 GMT
#518
On April 11 2010 06:18 tonight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2010 06:12 pubbanana wrote:
I wonder who they bribed on the OGN media staff to put fucking Forever The Sickest Kids as the intro music.

MSL this week was playing that Paramore song over and over, so probably that same guy.

looooooooool
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
April 10 2010 21:52 GMT
#519
rekrul is right most of the time folks =D can't wait for the video blog.
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
Hirmu
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Finland850 Posts
April 10 2010 21:54 GMT
#520
yeps wants the video blog!
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