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basically the main things i need to upgrade for perfect sc2 gameplay is my cpu speed, ram and vid card right? are there any recommendations for what i should specifically buy? also im looking to be able to stream some sc2 games aswell
my specs are trash, help
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TT1
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basically the main things i need to upgrade for perfect sc2 gameplay is my cpu speed, ram and vid card right? are there any recommendations for what i should specifically buy? also im looking to be able to stream some sc2 games aswell | ||
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check that first. | ||
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On February 19 2010 07:49 iamtt1 wrote: but your talking to someone who has 0 knowledge about computers, all i need are the parts and then i could get someone to set it up for me Hmm k ima look up some parts in the ~8 minutes I have till bus comes. Updating post in a moment  EDIT: I'm not totally up to date on the latest benchmarks for the latest graphics cards, etc (which you can find through google) but a quick browse on newegg turned up these parts, which should be more than sufficient to run sc2 at high specs and are relatively cheap: Nvidia 9800GT for $114.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130435 4 gigs of ram (2x 2gb stick) $84.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227346 AMD Phenom II, 3.1ghz for $95.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103680 You will probably need a new motherboard too. You shouldn't need to care much about the processor tbh, which is why I linked a random cheap but not totally fail one. The bottleneck is almost certainly going to occur at the graphics card level when you have 4 gigs of ram and a decent processor, so I'd considering upping the graphics card before anything else. I'll check thread again in about 15-20 mins when I get back to my apartment. | ||
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On February 19 2010 07:50 Athos wrote: Hey, maybe you'll get into the beta because your specs are so dated. Think of the positives. i was actually thinking about this too but im too addicted.. i need to play right now | ||
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FragKrag
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http://anandtech.com/guides/showdoc.aspx?i=3739 | ||
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TT1
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On February 19 2010 07:51 EtherealDeath wrote: Hmm k ima look up some parts in the ~8 minutes I have till bus comes. Updating post in a moment EDIT: I'm not totally up to date on the latest benchmarks for the latest graphics cards, etc (which you can find through google) but a quick browse on newegg turned up these parts, which should be more than sufficient to run sc2 at high specs and are relatively cheap: Nvidia 9800GT for $114.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130435 4 gigs of ram (2x 2gb stick) $84.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227346 AMD Phenom II, 3.1ghz for $95.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103680 You will probably need a new motherboard too. You shouldn't need to care much about the processor tbh, which is why I linked a random cheap but not totally fail one. The bottleneck is almost certainly going to occur at the graphics card level when you have 4 gigs of ram and a decent processor, so I'd considering upping the graphics card before anything else. I'll check thread again in about 15-20 mins when I get back to my apartment. ok so basically im rebuilding my computer but the only parts i need to change are these ones right(plus the motherboard + fan)? i can still use my tower and the other parts? | ||
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On February 19 2010 08:00 FragKrag wrote: I'll throw you some ideas when I have some time, but as of now, take a look at this: http://anandtech.com/guides/showdoc.aspx?i=3739 thx | ||
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Mindcrime
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On February 19 2010 07:50 Athos wrote: Hey, maybe you'll get into the beta because your specs are so dated. Think of the positives. There's no way in hell that video card will run sc2. | ||
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FragKrag
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I recommend against that particular set of RAM if you plan to upgrade to an AMD system, because OCZ RAM is notorious for being unreliable on AMD systems. Your motherboard must change, I'm not sure about the PSU, but it might have to go as well (how many watts is it? How much does it have on the 12V Rail etc). Edit: As far as simply PLAYING SC2 at max settings (ie no streaming or other business) An Athlon II X2 dual core or Phenom II X2 dual core, 2GB of DDR3 RAM, and a 4850 will be enough. That total comes to around $210-250. Add a new motherboard and it becomes around $260-300. 2GB of RAM won't be enough to add other stuff on. | ||
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TT1
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ill upload a few pics of my case in a sec | ||
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FragKrag
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if you don't know what model your case is, then go ahead and take a picture. | ||
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On February 19 2010 08:03 iamtt1 wrote: ok so basically im rebuilding my computer but the only parts i need to change are these ones right(plus the motherboard + fan)? i can still use my tower and the other parts? Actually taking another look at your specs, almost 100% sure you will need a new power supply too, based on the power requirements of the 9800GT. Unless of course, you got an amazingly overpowered power supply for an underpowered computer o.O Possibility of needing more cooling too (usually not required), but idk that really depends on your current cooling setup. | ||
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![[image loading]](http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/4118/dscf0585o.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/2710/dscf0588.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/3153/dscf0587eg.jpg) monitor should be fine for the tower i dunno | ||
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EtherealDeath
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But that shouldn't happen. I'm curious to know if anyone has experience with companies that build good comps for cheap. Cyberpowerpc was pro back in the day, but they were really hit and miss, as sometimes the comp would just not work and you would be fucker in a chain of customer service calls for months. | ||
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http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?Source=MSWD&WishListNumber=13036712 | ||
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FragKrag
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is his case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813135068 looks like his motherboard | ||
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On February 19 2010 08:30 R1CH wrote: Do the HotBid build: http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?Source=MSWD&WishListNumber=13036712 and this build wouldnt need any additional parts? because i dont see a cooler/fan on the page edit: nvm i think the CORSAIR CMPSU-550VX 550W ATX12V V2.2 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power is the cooler | ||
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EtherealDeath
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On February 19 2010 08:30 R1CH wrote: Do the HotBid build: http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?Source=MSWD&WishListNumber=13036712 Not a bad build actually! Though I am out of date with the 5k series specs  | ||
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Boblion
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On February 19 2010 08:30 R1CH wrote: Do the HotBid build: http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?Source=MSWD&WishListNumber=13036712 I would definitly not buy a E8400 nowadays. Except for some really specific kind of builds ( snobby HTPC ) i think that Intel procs under the I5-750 and the i7 aren't competitive for their price. | ||
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FragKrag
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In this case, I believe the lowest cost option would actually be to take advantage of your motherboard which supports intel Core 2 Duo, buy 4GB of DDR2 RAM, a new power supply, and a 4850. core 2 duo will be around $120, 4GB DDR2 RAM would be around $90, new power supply around 60$, and a 4850 around $100. The low cost build however, probably won't work nearly as well as a new AM3 build which would involve buying a new motherboard. | ||
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KeSPA_Wannabe
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FragKrag
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(and a fairly expensive one at that!) | ||
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Boblion
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Also if you don't get a new screen with a resolution > 1280x1024 i doubt that the 5770 will be really useful. A 4850 will probably be more than enough. | ||
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On February 19 2010 07:37 iamtt1 wrote: sry im still living in the stone age basically the main things i need to upgrade for perfect sc2 gameplay is my cpu speed, ram and vid card right? are there any recommendations for what i should specifically buy? also im looking to be able to stream some sc2 games aswell Dude, your specs are better than mine. T-T Damn you SC2. | ||
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TT1
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also i feel so behind because u guys are talking about the products but i have no idea whats what, if its possible can someone add a list with everything on it so i could just go on newegg.ca and add it to a cart, i would rather build a comp from scratch with all the parts than to salvage parts from my existing comp if the difference comes out to like 100-200$(tower/motherboard etc) | ||
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On February 19 2010 08:40 FragKrag wrote: K you will need a new powersupply, but your case is perfectly salvageable. In this case, I believe the lowest cost option would actually be to take advantage of your motherboard which supports intel Core 2 Duo, buy 4GB of DDR2 RAM, a new power supply, and a 4850. core 2 duo will be around $120, 4GB DDR2 RAM would be around $90, new power supply around 60$, and a 4850 around $100. The low cost build however, probably won't work nearly as well as a new AM3 build which would involve buying a new motherboard. a 4850/5770 = the processor? | ||
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if you don't need windows 7, don't buy it ofc. | ||
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also what would be the major differences between this build and the hotbid build? | ||
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FragKrag
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The AM3 socket supports PCIe 2.0 X16 which allows for more bandwidth for gpus whereas the hotbid build is stick with the older PCIe 1.0 X16 which provides half the bandwidth. Hotbid's computer is also going to be smaller, and probably less upgradeable in the future because the LGA 775 socket which his motherboard uses is set to be discontinued this year. My only gripe with the build I made is that I would rather use the Antec 520W power supply, but that would increase the amount you have to spend ;p. His Corsair 550W is superior to the current Cooler Master 460W. If you don't mind spending the extra $30, I would recommend getting the 520W Antec. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371030&cm_re=power_supply_antec-_-17-371-030-_-Product by buying a new motherboard, you also need to buy a new OS since your old OS will not be able to associate itself with your new motherboard. | ||
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Conquest101
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No that's the graphics card. The 5770 being newer and thus more expensive. People are saying that if you plan to use the same monitor (which most likely has a maximum resolution of 1280x1024), a 5770 may be overkill and unnecessary, so if you want to cut costs, get a 4850. However, if you plan to upgrade your monitor and want to play games coming out in the future at high settings, get a 5770 or what not. | ||
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dyren
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Grab this video card for only $150. | ||
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FragKrag
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On February 19 2010 11:17 dyren wrote: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150439&cm_re=xfx_250-_-14-150-439-_-Product Grab this video card for only $150. i know tt1 used to hack and all, but that doesn't excuse this kind of advice | ||
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