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TechniQ.UK
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United Kingdom391 Posts
February 12 2010 18:31 GMT
#1
I'm thinking of learning German. Have any of you learned a language successfully and if so do you have any modes of learning / tips you can suggest?



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Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-12 18:38:20
February 12 2010 18:34 GMT
#2
Watch those clips of Hitler from Downfall on youtube, I heard that they have subtitles. Learn from it.

There are a bunch of learning courses / videos you can find online. Best bet is to immerse yourself in that language. ie; find a buddy who speaks German and try to have regular conversations with that person.
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
February 12 2010 18:39 GMT
#3
The Rocket Series plus super memo. The rocket series differs from other language learning software like Rosetta Stone because you don't just memorize random phrases and words. But you learn key conversational phrases and you learn how to modify it to your own uses as the lessons get further. So you actually learn how to improvise and play around with the phrases just like in normal conversation. Supermemo uses a principle called spaced repetition. To truly remember something in the long term you have to review it in increasingly spaced intervals i.e. The day after you learn it, The week after, the month after, the year after etc.

http://www.rocketlanguages.com/german/premium/

If you actually buy the software you're given access to a forum where you can practice these conversational skills with other people who are learning it.

After you get these two things, join a german club, there are tons of them in the city. And you can also start learning the grammar of it, by picking up a german grammar book and practicing to read children's books like tin tin. (You will pick up grammar and syntax intuitively in the rocket series).
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Wohmfg
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1292 Posts
February 12 2010 18:41 GMT
#4
Definitely immerse yourself in the language. Read the news in German, speak to German friends etc. Learning little and often is better than trying to sit down and learn a whole load of stuff at a time, especially for languages imo.

http://www.bild.de/ if you want to read the "news" in German because it's pretty simple German.
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Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
February 12 2010 18:42 GMT
#5
Live in the country and go out drinking every single night trying to hit on girls at bars and clubs.
why so 진지해?
Armathai
Profile Joined October 2007
1023 Posts
February 12 2010 18:42 GMT
#6
If you want to learn a language, travel to and live in the countries that speak it.
Everything else is just a slow torture that will most likely end in failing.
Sorry i can't give you study advice :S

Looking for ArcticCerebrate formerly from @USEast
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26003 Posts
February 12 2010 18:42 GMT
#7
Here's what I did:

Step 0. Have an interest. You won't learn if you don't have a reason to.
Step 1. You will not learn a language practicing on your own and using internet resources unless you have ridiculous dedication. Also, most of what you learn will be wrong since you won't have active feedback correcting you. People swear by Rosetta Stone but my experience is learning like that doesn't work for me.
Step 2. Get a tutor / take a class. This was very necessary for me. I needed some structure and someone with a plan walking me through new things to learn. If you don't do this then you won't have a sense of what to learn next.
Step 3. Do language exchange. For me, this was key. It gives you real takling experience, and you can learn real expressions as opposed to text book expressions. You can also use this time to ask questions you may have formed about grammar, expressions, etc.
Step 4. Practice! At the start, I had to plan my entire sentence in Korean and then say it. It sucked. I practiced writing everything in Korean, basically writing everyone's name in Korean. Eventually, you just start talking the language without having to think. At that point you can just have conversations with people in the language.
Step 5. This part sucks, and it's where I am now. You understand the grammar, pronounciation, etc. but your vocabulary sucks. This is grinding time to beef up your vocab, and it's so boring and I'm so lazy that I'm just not bothering.
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Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
February 12 2010 18:52 GMT
#8
If you take classes be sure to show up drunk and try to say as much stupid shit as you can with whatever grammar / vocab they teach you in class. It will be funny AND it will help you remember everything. It works.
why so 진지해?
Corr
Profile Joined January 2009
Denmark796 Posts
February 12 2010 18:54 GMT
#9
Learn the grammar and use it as much as you can. German grammar is really simple.
Lovin
Profile Joined May 2009
Denmark812 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-12 19:11:17
February 12 2010 19:10 GMT
#10
I've spent 4 years trying to learn German. Don't do it.


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No seriously, good luck. It's just that I have to - according to the system - and I seriously have no passion to learning German because the country never interested me all that much (reminds me of Denmark)
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a11
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Germany303 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-12 19:35:14
February 12 2010 19:33 GMT
#11
Hehe, the poor guys from Denmark showing up, who have to learn German in school.

Well, what I'd personally recommend when you are not acquiring German for business needs, is to not (fucking) care about polite forms in the beginning. I'm not sure, but it seems to me like they are mostly focusing on polite forms everywhere German is taught, and it's just rather unfortunate, because they are imho a bit harder to grasp, while on the internet nobody is using them. So these poor guys appear on German forums and you know in an instant their mistakes are neither typos, nor are they immigrants.

So, well, if you're not planning on travelling to Germany anytime soon or contacting a German on a formal level, there's no reason to bother with polite forms. And when you have a grasp on the language, you'll be able to learn that really fast anyways.

At last, for some trolling and stuff you can head over to krautchan.org, the local *chan. Of course the language spoken there isn't the finest, but they have an international board, too, and it seems to me that people that are learning German appear rather often there. Biggest German StarCraft-fansite is broodwar.de, you might have heard of that one.
If you need a good translation site, use http://dict.leo.org/ (you would have found it by googling three seconds anyways, I suppose). They have a decent database and nearly everything that's not in there has been discussed on their forums, whose search results are also always linked.

Good luck and have fun on your journey learning this nice language :D
wo0py
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Netherlands922 Posts
February 12 2010 19:38 GMT
#12
German is no fun language. Try a nordic or asian language if you ask me.

Best way is to put a lot of time in it.
We shouldnt recreate anger of the non-virtual world
andeh
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States904 Posts
February 12 2010 19:54 GMT
#13
try using this:

http://www.ielanguages.com/German.html

and once you get a basic idea, goto german sites of interest (gaming: readmore.de) and just practice reading or practice conversational stuff by finding a e-penpal or sites like habbo.de.

the more you use, the better you'll get
jonnyp
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States415 Posts
February 12 2010 21:58 GMT
#14
On February 13 2010 03:42 Chill wrote:
Here's what I did:
+ Show Spoiler +

Step 0. Have an interest. You won't learn if you don't have a reason to.
Step 1. You will not learn a language practicing on your own and using internet resources unless you have ridiculous dedication. Also, most of what you learn will be wrong since you won't have active feedback correcting you. People swear by Rosetta Stone but my experience is learning like that doesn't work for me.
Step 2. Get a tutor / take a class. This was very necessary for me. I needed some structure and someone with a plan walking me through new things to learn. If you don't do this then you won't have a sense of what to learn next.
Step 3. Do language exchange. For me, this was key. It gives you real takling experience, and you can learn real expressions as opposed to text book expressions. You can also use this time to ask questions you may have formed about grammar, expressions, etc.
Step 4. Practice! At the start, I had to plan my entire sentence in Korean and then say it. It sucked. I practiced writing everything in Korean, basically writing everyone's name in Korean. Eventually, you just start talking the language without having to think. At that point you can just have conversations with people in the language.
Step 5. This part sucks, and it's where I am now. You understand the grammar, pronounciation, etc. but your vocabulary sucks. This is grinding time to beef up your vocab, and it's so boring and I'm so lazy that I'm just not bothering.


lol Part 5, so true ^^. If you're on the internet frequently try finding a forum in German, you can also set your browsing language to German as well. Firefox (not sure about IE or Chrome or the others) might even have a German version you can use. Little things like that help you stay in contact with the language on a daily basis and are really helpful in retaining comprehension (and soaking up vocab, there's just so many nouns and verbs xD lol).
The number of years it takes for the Internet to move past anything is way, way over 9000.
LiminalMadness
Profile Joined November 2009
Germany88 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-12 22:18:44
February 12 2010 22:17 GMT
#15
Here is the way that worked best for me:

First declare a goal for yourself: learn spoken language first( for conversations ) or written language ( for reading newspapers etc. )

Find lists of the 200 - 500 most used words in that language in either written or spoken.

Let someone who has good skills in that language translate you some basic sentences that go through all the terms and basic verb conjugations so you get the basic grammar down.

And then learn the words from those lists.

Once you can build sentences for most tenses with those words expand your vocabulary by buying a book in that language in a field you are interested in etc.
And get yourself a tandem partner at a local college/university/blabla

--------------

Might not be a good way for you, but worked for me way better then all those textbooks.
FoieGras
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada270 Posts
February 13 2010 01:14 GMT
#16
Watching a lot of TV and listening to music helps. When I was taking jap, the profs always encouraged us to watch dramas and such.
Lexpar
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
1813 Posts
February 13 2010 01:29 GMT
#17
Surround yourself with the language. If you can take a vacation in Germany, go for it. If not, try to find people in your community who speak it, and spend time with them. As long as you force yourself to speak it at least once a day, you'll learn very quickly.

Good luck :D
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
February 13 2010 01:30 GMT
#18
You could easily learn basics by watching TV and shows.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Achromic
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
773 Posts
February 13 2010 01:33 GMT
#19
Best way to learn a language is by actually meeting people and speaking the language you want to learn (If you have the very basics that is).
Blah
asel
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Germany1605 Posts
February 13 2010 01:41 GMT
#20
join a german starcraft clan and try to speak german with them
also being active on forums that are held in this language helped me a lot - but i guess your german has to be at least decent in order to stay unbanned ;o
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