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Is Fantasy going to be a Sniper PL(WL)

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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19262 Posts
January 20 2010 19:54 GMT
#1
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Poll: Will Fantasy perform well in the PL(WL)?
(Vote): Yes, he's the best terran still!
(Vote): No, he will fail his team and make Bisu cry!
(Vote): Maybe, if SKT-1 is brave enough to play him.
(Vote): Flash 4-0s every team, enough said.

I chose Fantasy as one of my teammates because of his performance over the summer. Anyone who saw those matches and how he handled OZ will surely say that he's reliable. I know he has been on a bit of a slump lately. A year ago a lot of people would still have picked Fantasy over Flash. So I was just wondering what everyone predicts how Fantasy will do.



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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
January 20 2010 20:05 GMT
#2
fantasy's nothing special anymore imo

he had his moment, and not to say he's horrible now, but I don't see him making much of a scene in the future
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thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-20 20:08:54
January 20 2010 20:07 GMT
#3
On January 21 2010 04:54 BisuDagger wrote:
A year ago a lot of people would still have picked Fantasy over Flash. So I was just wondering what everyone predicts how Fantasy will do.

I thought that those people were being dumb then. It was like all the hype MVP got. I wasn't sure if it was in earnest or just fucking around. In retrospect, it would make me feel a lot better if the Fantasy fanboys were just messing with me.

EDIT: Doesn't sniper usually refer to a single matchup? I don't think you're using the term properly.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 20 2010 20:07 GMT
#4
On January 21 2010 05:05 Grobyc wrote:
fantasy's nothing special anymore imo

he had his moment, and not to say he's horrible now, but I don't see him making much of a scene in the future


i basically agree with this, but I think he'll still do well. Probably not well enough to justify his cost though.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
January 20 2010 20:10 GMT
#5
On January 21 2010 05:05 Grobyc wrote:
fantasy's nothing special anymore imo

he had his moment, and not to say he's horrible now, but I don't see him making much of a scene in the future


This, he won't be able to come back anymore. He would need a miracle :\
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19262 Posts
January 20 2010 20:23 GMT
#6
@thopol: EDIT: Doesn't sniper usually refer to a single matchup? I don't think you're using the term properly.

Yeah, I should have used a better word, like "Is Fantasy going to be a "Terran Demolition Man" PL(WL)".
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krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
January 20 2010 20:32 GMT
#7
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ahole-surprise
Profile Joined August 2007
United States813 Posts
January 20 2010 20:48 GMT
#8
Saying "Flash will 4-0 every team" doesn't really tell you anything about whether or not Fantasy will perform well in WL.

I think Fantasy will be better than average but will not dominate, he's more of a player that needs a lot of preparation to win.
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seppolevne
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada1681 Posts
January 20 2010 20:55 GMT
#9
Yes, with all his crazy builds fantasy is sure to be a WL sniper, though he's too inconsistent to be a Terran Demolition Man. I don't see him starting off SKT too often, but he should see play.
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Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
January 20 2010 20:56 GMT
#10
On January 21 2010 05:48 ahole-surprise wrote:
I think Fantasy will be better than average but will not dominate, he's more of a player that needs a lot of preparation to win.


Well, I think every player needs a lot of preparation to win, but I actually think Flash is not the best example here.

More representative players are Fantasy and Calm actually; both will produce good games with moderate practice, but with preparation, they produce outstanding games.

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Using yesterday's PL as an example, even though Flash is probably practising his ass off for his MSL final with JD, he still carried his team to victory
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DrTJEckleburg
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1080 Posts
January 20 2010 21:08 GMT
#11
On January 21 2010 05:48 ahole-surprise wrote:
Saying "Flash will 4-0 every team" doesn't really tell you anything about whether or not Fantasy will perform well in WL.

I think Fantasy will be better than average but will not dominate, he's more of a player that needs a lot of preparation to win.


Although I am a blatant flash fanboy I think Flash adapts a ridiculous amount and would not need as much preparation as you might think. He even says this in one of the interviews when the person asks him about him preparing builds and he says it was mostly adaptation.

And I guess I missed this period of people thinking Fantasy was the best terran, I think even during the last couple of OSL/MSL seasons most people have still known Flash was the best despite falling out of the individual leagues rather quickly. I do expect Fantasy to perform well for his team though, maybe just not like a 4-0ing juggernaut.
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Saturnize
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2473 Posts
January 20 2010 21:11 GMT
#12
Fantasy is still fun to watch, but unless something revolutionary happens in his game i don't think he will the dangerous terran he once was.
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ahole-surprise
Profile Joined August 2007
United States813 Posts
January 20 2010 21:29 GMT
#13
What are you people talking about.

I said Fantasy needs a lot of prepraration to win, not Flash.
Pulp can move, baby!
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
January 20 2010 21:30 GMT
#14
Very unlikely, his TvP just seems so outdated and ineffective these last months, and he doesn't strike me as the truly talented player like Flash who can keep up and adapt. I always thought he was overrated.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
January 20 2010 21:38 GMT
#15
On January 21 2010 05:07 thopol wrote:
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On January 21 2010 04:54 BisuDagger wrote:
A year ago a lot of people would still have picked Fantasy over Flash. So I was just wondering what everyone predicts how Fantasy will do.

I thought that those people were being dumb then. It was like all the hype MVP got. I wasn't sure if it was in earnest or just fucking around. In retrospect, it would make me feel a lot better if the Fantasy fanboys were just messing with me.

EDIT: Doesn't sniper usually refer to a single matchup? I don't think you're using the term properly.

Dude, Fantasy is so much better than MVP. The guy is probably the best recent silver surfer, right next to Jangbi. Jangbi was a legit dragon even though he is slumping now, too. Fantasy is still number 2 Terran in ELO! Flash is way ahead though, this kind of says it all.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
January 20 2010 21:41 GMT
#16
On January 21 2010 05:48 ahole-surprise wrote:
Saying "Flash will 4-0 every team" doesn't really tell you anything about whether or not Fantasy will perform well in WL.

I think Fantasy will be better than average but will not dominate, he's more of a player that needs a lot of preparation to win.

I do agree with this. Fantasy often does better if he has a build that is tailor made (like vs. Stork on Plasma) while Flash showed against Movie that he can just do his thing and respond to all sorts of obscure builds.
Purind
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Canada3562 Posts
January 20 2010 21:44 GMT
#17
I like how this question with a simple yes/no answer gets split into 4 choices and none of the choices cover any of the possible answers

Flash 4-0ing everyone doesn't say anything about Fantasy's record except for KTF/SKT match, ignoring every other match SKT has

For the Yes option, I don't see how "performing well" necessarily means he has to be the best terran. I guess every single player except for Flash is sucking right now and will continue to suck as long as they're worse than flash

For the no option, I don't see why he couldn't perform just OK. If he gets 50% wins, I don't think that would be considered performing well, but it's not necessarily a failure.

It's like, in order to perform well he has to be the best player with 85% wins, otherwise he sucks ass and is a complete failure to society
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Initial_H.C.
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada560 Posts
January 21 2010 00:07 GMT
#18
I don't think he'll be performing any all-kills. He can probably go for 2kills max. He looks like a technical player who digs deep into one match. But I'm not so sure if he can handle playing on the fly without knowing his next opponent and match up.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
January 21 2010 00:18 GMT
#19
Fantasy is really not the type of player who excels when raw skill and freestyling are the key attributes. He has shown multiple times how bad he is at adapting in-game, and when he's not able to practise a specific build on a specific map in a specific match-up vs a specific player I think he will fail quite hard. He's gonna suck in WL. At least I hope he will.
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Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
January 21 2010 00:26 GMT
#20
Really good ace players tend to make good winner league players. Bisu, Flash, Jaedong...those type of guys. Fantasy is not really a good ace player so he's basically simply going to be a sniper since he can prepare some pretty cool builds and is still pretty good at all matchups.

Personally, I don't care about Fantasy because everyone should know by now that he's not going to do insanely well during WL. Personally, I'm looking out for Really during Winner's League. If he can get his TvZ up there with the rest of his matchups, he'll be a really dangerous player.
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