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FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
December 13 2009 02:33 GMT
#1
I achieved my goal, stated in this blog http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=101448
and updated in this blog
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=103947
with about 2 hours left in the season lol. The pressure was extremely high because i woke up really late today, having planned to get in a ton of games throughout the day, but i was reduced to only 5 hours of playing time to gain about 700points. Luckily i did not go on a losing streak, and managed to keep my confidence up and focus on the game and surpassed my own expectations :D Even more satisfying is the fact that my last games were against a b+ korean terran - PvT being my worst matchup by far, I rarely win against korean terrans of high rank.

A- here http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/nrg.dragon.html
transferred from this http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/12345asdf321.html smurf account

So, TY to every1 who supported me in my previous blogs, my encouraging friends, and my CPL students lol :D ( gogo team 3!!) I said i would update my strategical progress as well, so here goes:

Since my last blog, ive been playing a lot on the new maps fighting spirit and match point. I play ZvP/PvZ/PvT and during my experimentations on these new maps, as well as mixing in older maps occasionally, i reached the conclusion that the reason why my ZvP is so inconsistant is because of the maps. Zerg have to play a totally different style on alot of different maps, whereas protoss in PvZ just adapt to what the zerg is doing, they dont need to think ahead of time of a good game plan as much as zerg do. Time and time again, Ive been playing really good zvp on one map, but when i switch to a newer or older map all of a sudden i get crushed - I forget how to play the other map and it takes me a few games of practice or replay watching to remember what style is best on it. This doesnt happen at all in pvz, which is why pvz is my most consisantly good matchup. My memory is so bad that i actually created a wordpad document to remind myself how to play on certain maps lol.

That being said, the ZvP style that fits fighting spirit best for me is a turtling macro style where u take the far natural instead of a nearby third, and make a few lurkers/sunkens. Expanding to the closer 3rd bases sooner ive found to work poorly, because one of them will be really close to the protoss (and can die easily to zlot/archon rushes), and the other is awkwardly placed so that it is easy for the protoss to cut off your reinforcements to it. Also, the protoss will be able to take his close 3rd and 4th on those cliffs much more easily than you, because he will be relying on cannons + a templar to defend it instead of a mobile army, which you will need in that case. Lurker turtling does not work as well in those positions because you are defending 3 spots from attack instead of one, all based around the center, which does not allow for easy counterattacks on the protoss bases.

On Match point, the zvp style i used was very similar to how everyone plays on bluestorm - theres a strong resemblance between those two maps so taking your side of the map with lurkers placed along the high ridge works well.

Another frustrating strategical question for me that is only partially solved is how to properly deal with goon/reaver timing attacks. There are two distinct variations, both of which are popular on fighting spirit. The first variation involves getting a really fast robotics before dragoon range, and attacking with about 4 zlots/5 goons and a reaver+ shuttle. Originally I thought that going fast mutas would be a great counter to this, but unfortunately that hasnt worked out for me yet because the timing is too slow, and my natural is already dying by the time my mutalisks pop, leading to a few embarassing losses So obviously that didnt work, maybe mass hydraling would crush it early on? I tried this and it worked very well a few times in a row, i was feeling very confident with it until i ran into the second variation of goon/reaver. This involves getting a slower robotics facility in favor of a much larger dragoon force. I massed hydralisks and zerglings as usual, knowing what was coming and expecting an easy rape. Unfortunately, i got an easy rape but i wasnt doing raping T__T my army got crushed somehow. Im not 100% that my approach was wrong, because during the longer wait i did build a spire and a couple more drones, resulting in a few idle larvea and less units. Perhaps if i went all out hydra/ling and didnt get any tech besides that, i still would have won, im not sure. But the loss prompted me to think a lot more about countering goon/reaver. Im pretty sure i need to tech to mutas eventually to beat it, I just dont know when. I have played games in the past where i won with muta/ling but those are lost in the vast expanses of my autoreplay folder, and I cant remember my or my opponents exact build orders Ill keep working on this though until i find what works.

Anyway, im pretty fucking satisfied atm and looking forward to all the TSL matches :D

O ya if any1 is interested in a replay pack i might consider making one, depends how many people care O.o




****
aka DragOn[NaS]
maga33
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States247 Posts
December 13 2009 02:35 GMT
#2
congratz go show it to all of your friends:D
The victorious strategist only seeks battle after the victory has been won, whereas he who is destined to defeat first fights and afterwards looks for victory.
YoonHo
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada1043 Posts
December 13 2009 02:39 GMT
#3
No one cares...


Joke, GOOD JAWB NOW GET BACK TO HELPING ME TEACH TEAM 3
IUFam Golf Wang~ NrGsteve
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
December 13 2009 02:43 GMT
#4
Team 3 has an A- coach? DAYUM.

GG folks, we win.
Retvrn to Forvms
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
December 13 2009 03:09 GMT
#5
I kept msg'ing you for games T_T

YOu coulda helped ANOTHER man achieve his goal

^_^
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42579 Posts
December 13 2009 03:10 GMT
#6
I remember having played you. Congrats on A-.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
December 13 2009 03:19 GMT
#7
lol sorry incontrol arnt u qualified anyway? I actually joined a game with you a couple days ago on 12345asdf321 and we started, but i remembered at the last second that im not supposed to play TSL players on other accounts, so i left asap without saying anything, then i didnt see u in the channel to apoligize O.o Later on i abondoned the TSL rules though as it was clear I wasnt getting up to 9800 or w/e
aka DragOn[NaS]
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
December 13 2009 03:24 GMT
#8
nah no worries bro We both got what we wanted... was just giving you a hard time.

Congrats and improve next season!
Sharp-eYe
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada642 Posts
December 13 2009 03:26 GMT
#9
TL is too pro. Congrats man :D To celebrate I recommend bull dogging Idra (if you can get a game with him).
Are you truly so blinded by your vaunted religion, that you can't see the fall ahead of you? - Zeratul III AKA WikidSik ingame (anygame)
kerr0r
Profile Joined September 2008
Norway319 Posts
December 13 2009 03:32 GMT
#10
[x] Sick brag

Congrats man. Always admire people who set high goals and stick with them.
FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-13 03:42:45
December 13 2009 03:42 GMT
#11
hmm it seems that i was confusing the TSL ladder end time with the iccup season end, i thought they were at the same time. Ive got a few more gaming days still lol o.O

thnx for all the support guys
aka DragOn[NaS]
AmstAff
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Germany949 Posts
December 13 2009 03:46 GMT
#12
good job yO. was wondering why u didnt played that B acc higher^^ but making a- with smurf is a good reason ^.-
after 2 years i reached it = marine icon
Whiplash
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2928 Posts
December 13 2009 04:10 GMT
#13
Gratz dude, I play the same matchups as you I wish you were available for teaching lol.
Cinematographer / Steadicam Operator. Former Starcraft commentator/player
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
December 13 2009 04:15 GMT
#14
On December 13 2009 12:24 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
nah no worries bro We both got what we wanted... was just giving you a hard time.

Congrats and improve next season!


awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww, so nice <3

Congrats on A- dragon.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
Pengu1n
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States552 Posts
December 13 2009 04:30 GMT
#15
about time
Xusneb
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada612 Posts
December 13 2009 04:58 GMT
#16
Very nice! You now join the upper echelon of foreign players... and the lower echelon of Korean progamers
If you want to be happy, be. - Leo Tolstoy
cgrinker
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3824 Posts
December 13 2009 05:36 GMT
#17
Damn what's with TL blogs being about people making legit ranks these days
ThE_OsToJiY
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Canada1167 Posts
December 13 2009 05:36 GMT
#18
nerd.

I still steal ur pts k?
@ostojiy
anderoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1876 Posts
December 13 2009 05:37 GMT
#19
great job man
jOke.Baka
Profile Joined November 2009
United States62 Posts
December 13 2009 05:58 GMT
#20
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