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Bisu and Savior games in 2007

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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-04 06:47:52
December 04 2009 06:06 GMT
#1
What was considered the upset regarding (P)Bisu and (Z)sAviOr Rivalry was it the 2007 (P)Ever or the MSL? I (T)remember watching the stream of the game and the Liqubet was one sided in (Z)sAviOr's favor was that considered the upset?








"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Atrioc
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1866 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-04 06:17:41
December 04 2009 06:12 GMT
#2
The MSL was the upset,

but sAviOr still had plenty of fans who wouldve bet on him to beat Bisu in Ever 2007, so maybe he had a higher liquibet % then as well. You have to understand that savior, after losing to Bisu, starting playing some of the best ZvP hes ever played. He actually hit his peak ZvP ELO during an amazing 19-2 run ZvP run (with the only 2 losses coming in Bo3's that he won) and it was not unlikely that he would be able to shut down Bisu this time now that he had a better idea of what to expect and was more prepared.

His loss in Ever 2007, specifically his thrown away win in Game 2 on Katrina, is easily the saddest sAviOr game ever (except maybe Game 1 vs Firebathero) because you can literally feel him losing control on the game. After that, Game 3 was a breeze for Bisu because Savior had defeat written all over his face.
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ForTheSwarm
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States556 Posts
December 04 2009 06:26 GMT
#3
On December 04 2009 15:12 Atrioc wrote:
The MSL was the upset,

but sAviOr still had plenty of fans who wouldve bet on him to beat Bisu in Ever 2007, so maybe he had a higher liquibet % then as well. You have to understand that savior, after losing to Bisu, starting playing some of the best ZvP hes ever played. He actually hit his peak ZvP ELO during an amazing 19-2 run ZvP run (with the only 2 losses coming in Bo3's that he won) and it was not unlikely that he would be able to shut down Bisu this time now that he had a better idea of what to expect and was more prepared.

His loss in Ever 2007, specifically his thrown away win in Game 2 on Katrina, is easily the saddest sAviOr game ever (except maybe Game 1 vs Firebathero) because you can literally feel him losing control on the game. After that, Game 3 was a breeze for Bisu because Savior had defeat written all over his face.


Official sAviOr historian speaking here. Listen closely...

Thank for the info btw!
Whenever I see a dropship, my asshole tingles, because it knows whats coming... - TheAntZ
EvoChamber
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France2505 Posts
December 04 2009 06:44 GMT
#4
Those GOMTV S1 VODs are so gruesome, they're like the last VODs I'd want to watch. Savior had no idea what hit him. Building that fourth hatchery at the center 3 'o clock expo in game 2 of their EVER bo3 on Katrina basically ruined his entire career after that. His mental state would have been completely different if he'd gotten his revenge on Bisu. But it just didn't happen. ><
That's not awful writing, DAMMIT. It's perfectly sensical english construction.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
December 04 2009 06:46 GMT
#5
Thanks found the MSL YouTube videos. Though I guess wifebeater had the entire game 3 and the award ceremony but there is no sound. Sucks.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
December 04 2009 06:53 GMT
#6
Had savior won game 2, he would have gone on to:

Face Stork when he had worse PvZ, and definantly win

Face Jaedong in a bo5 zvz... lol
sAviOr...
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
December 04 2009 07:36 GMT
#7
On December 04 2009 15:53 Camlito wrote:
Had savior won game 2, he would have gone on to:

Face Stork when he had worse PvZ, and definantly win

Face Jaedong in a bo5 zvz... lol

If only Bisu didn't get raped by Stork that OSL

Jaedong back then wouldn't have stood a chance against Bisu, seeing as he only learned ZvP during his game with Stork.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
December 04 2009 08:10 GMT
#8
SUCH BAD MEMORIES </3

agreed w/ Savior's 4th expo, it was too hard to defend + unnecessary at the point at which he built it. That DT savaged it
Hey! Listen!
XinRan
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States530 Posts
December 04 2009 08:46 GMT
#9
On December 04 2009 17:10 Navi wrote:
SUCH BAD MEMORIES </3

agreed w/ Savior's 4th expo, it was too hard to defend + unnecessary at the point at which he built it. That DT savaged it

No, a bunch of zealots savaged it. Savior just couldn't afford to send more hydras over to prevent the zealots from focusing the hatch.
"To be fair, Kal played like absolute garbage. His noted inconsistency and bad record versus Jaedong high fived into a cacophony of suck." - TwoToneTerran
asel
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Germany1605 Posts
December 04 2009 09:38 GMT
#10
how much i hated these games :[
eSTRO for life | #3 Sea.Really fan! | GGoliath! | aeterna societas honoris | cbta~ | Flash makes Terran look like Toss | aka RevaL
Yogurt
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States4258 Posts
December 04 2009 11:22 GMT
#11
i wish we had savior back

i stopped playing and watching starcraft after these games =( coincidence?
ok dont not so good something is something ok ok ok gogogo
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
December 04 2009 12:47 GMT
#12
worst VODs ever
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