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While there is much to be said about fanboys, their counterparts on TeamLiquid, the anti-fans, aren't discussed quite as much. The anti-fan is, of course, a necessary element in a sports scene. The anti-fan is fuel to the fire that rages around team sentiments and loyalties. Nothing gets a fanboy more excited than another person shooting down their beloved progamer. If you want to see just how many Jaedong fans there are on TL, just say something negative about him and watch the hate pour in.
While negative dispositions are generally looked down upon, they shouldn't necessarily be discouraged. While watching Proleague is fun, watching Proleague while trashtalking fans of your opposing team in mIRC is a blast. Tagging up your name, making claims of absurd gravity, these wars between fanboys are really just in good fun.
What are the things that make an anti-fan hate a progamer? Sometimes there is no reason, sometimes there are qualities a person have which you can't put your finger on. Boring play, bad attitude, looks, their rivalry with your favorite progamer, many things can contribute to this. I, of course, am a well-known Bisu anti-fan. I hate everything this man does.
But what is the difference between hate and love? Regardless of how I feel about him, the fact is, I care about Bisu a lot. I care when he wins and I care when he loses. As an anti-fan, I hate to see him win, I dislike his team, I dislike the way he carries himself, his perfect looks. Is there a hint of jealousy? Maybe. Bisu is a gorgeous man, he's extremely successful, and a fantastically skilled player. His 3-0 humiliation of my lord and liege sAviOr doesn't help either.
There is that invisible quality about him that attracts my negative sentiments. While I might talk alot of trash about Bisu, in all honesty I'd probably squeal like a korean schoolgirl (which I am at heart) and beg him for an autograph if our paths were to cross. StarCraft is a game and anti-fans are key players. As you delve further into the game, find a team you love, a player you worship, and hopefully a player you want nothing more for than retirement, your overall enjoyment of e-sports should improve.
The anti-fan is the unsung part of the machine that is the BroodWar scene.
  
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Just a short fluffy piece.
I'm pretty bored these days :p
For someone who hates Bisu so much, I sure got a lot of pics of him on my harddrive : /
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I feel the same way about Fantasy, ha ha
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On November 23 2009 08:09 ForTheSwarm wrote:
I feel the same way about Fantasy, ha ha
Fantasy and BoxeR are like the only players on SKT1 who I'll root for. I wish CJ would buy Fantasy, that would be so sick. We need a better terran these days anyway.
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On November 23 2009 08:14 fanatacist wrote:
Bisu ftw
The anti-fans can remain as an unsung part of the scene.
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i dont really like fantasy because of the fact you know that his ideas are mostly from boxer and oov. i also dont really think he has that potential to success like boxer and oov but thats just me
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I always thought that anti-fans existed because fanboys were being overnostalgic and annoying as heck sometimes. And because fanboys get threatened when another player starts performing better than their own.
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
On November 23 2009 08:24 TwoStep wrote:
I always thought that anti-fans existed because fanboys were being overnostalgic and annoying as heck sometimes. And because fanboys get threatened when another player starts performing better than their own.
If you think antis are plentiful on Teamliquid, take a look at Korean netizens. Those motherfuckers are crazy MESSED UP. Jesus christ, they'll pick out every little fault of every player/celebrity in Korea. Forgot when, but when Boxer went to some tournament in China and lost, fans were like out for his head.
It's even worse when you're like a celeb in Korea. Fucked up people digging up your pasts, and criticizing like every move you make.
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Huge fantasy anti-fan here mainly due to the Flash comparisons and skt1 fanboys.
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iNfeRnaL
Germany1908 Posts
I hate the fact that Flash wins everything even in practice but I don't hate him.
I want Flash to win except against Bisu/Best/Stork.
I'm very Protoss biased, I don't give a fuck about other matchups when it comes to watching VODS - only incredibly good games I guess.
Anti fan... hmm... who do I hate... I guess I hate go.go? I guess I hate BackHo as well? But that's about it.
And they're bad, so being an anti fan of them is quite easy...^^
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The only other player I really dislike is BeSt.
Everyone hates go.go but I love him <3
Kim Chang Hee is my princess.
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Not much to say, but your post remeinds me of a quote from the Simpsons.
Marge: "You know Homer, it's easy to criticize but..."
Homer: "Fun, too!"
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On November 23 2009 08:43 iNfeRnaL wrote:
I hate the fact that Flash wins everything even in practice but I don't hate him.
I want Flash to win except against Bisu/Best/Stork.
I'm very Protoss biased, I don't give a fuck about other matchups when it comes to watching VODS - only incredibly good games I guess.
Anti fan... hmm... who do I hate... I guess I hate go.go? I guess I hate BackHo as well? But that's about it.
And they're bad, so being an anti fan of them is quite easy...^^
I'm like you too. I only watch protoss matchups + the very best of other mus.
I will only cheer for a non-protoss as long as he isnt playing one of the dragons and he is either boxer, nada, or jaedong.
I am only an anti-fan of savior. Watching him lose is so enjoyable.
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There is a thin line between love and hate ... forgot where I read that.
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I dislike bisu as well, but the man is handsome, gives good results and consistently gives decent interviews. His arrogance bothers me, but I definitely can't say that it's undeserved.
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I'm an anti-fan of Jaedong because I'm sick of zerg and I have a friend who is a huge Jaedong fan (and pronounces it Jaidong wth) so I want him to lose.
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Pang, thems is fightin words!!
Anyway, I dont know why but i dislike flash a lot... No real reason and im sure he is an ok guy but i just hate to see him win and love to see him lose. I think it might be because he is fabled for his timings and strats but I just dont like to watch him play, unless he is losing. After that destruction of Stork in GOM finals I just did not like the guy.
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i inherently hate savior because i love firebathero. bisu also sucks.
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For me- if your a zerg player (other than shine, kwanro) I will always love and die for you
terran: Boxer, Flash, Upmagic, Sea, nada, oov, (the rest can die)
Protoss: I HATE EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU. MAY AIUR BURN FOREVER (except stork, god i love that kid)
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Bisu doesn't act anything like he looks. He looks like a hot badass, but is really like a cute little airheaded girl.
I'm serious too.
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On November 23 2009 09:08 theKOT wrote:
I'm an anti-fan of Jaedong because I'm sick of zerg and I have a friend who is a huge Jaedong fan (and pronounces it Jaidong wth) so I want him to lose.
JAY DONG, isn't that how it's pronounced anyways?
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On November 23 2009 08:14 fanatacist wrote:
Bisu ftw
thank you.. In the progamer popularity thread I was surprised at how many people didn't like bisu. he's the sickest player!
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Baa?21242 Posts
I hate everyone on SKT1.
I also hate Terrans.
Die.
(All of this can be traced to my love of Hong Jin Ho)
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I don't really think that I hate the players, if I think about it. It's more the fanatic fanboys that I rapidly start to dislike, and therefore "have" to dislike their player, or start doing it naturally.
I'm anti Zerg overall. Got love for Savior though, but that's it.
And I'm a Flash fanboy myself.
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9070 Posts
I hate every player that played for OZ at any point of his carrier, no matter how the team name has changed during the years. The only exception of this rule is ForGG. 
Oz are the Liverpool of starcraft for me. Glory Glory man united and SKT lol
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I used to like Stork as the silver medalist/second-best dragon.
Not anymore, now that he is doing better than Bisu and seems more serious since he buffed up.
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On November 23 2009 09:40 revolover wrote:
I hate Boxer (!)
:p
Hahaha! GOOD ONE.
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Braavos36373 Posts
you don't sound like a bisu anti fan
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On November 23 2009 10:48 Hot_Bid wrote:
you don't sound like a bisu anti fan
I am I swear
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On November 23 2009 09:33 Avidkeystamper wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2009 09:08 theKOT wrote:
I'm an anti-fan of Jaedong because I'm sick of zerg and I have a friend who is a huge Jaedong fan (and pronounces it Jaidong wth) so I want him to lose. JAY DONG, isn't that how it's pronounced anyways?
i think Jie Dong (jie rhymes with die and hi) is closer to what he means by Jai Dong
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On November 23 2009 11:28 blue_arrow wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2009 09:33 Avidkeystamper wrote:On November 23 2009 09:08 theKOT wrote:
I'm an anti-fan of Jaedong because I'm sick of zerg and I have a friend who is a huge Jaedong fan (and pronounces it Jaidong wth) so I want him to lose. JAY DONG, isn't that how it's pronounced anyways? i think Jie Dong (jie rhymes with die and hi) is what he means
It seems like it's "Je", with the E like in "met" or "yes". And the J I think sounds more like "ch" than "j". Unless this page is wrong.
제 (the Jae in Lee Jae Dong)
http://www.learnkoreanlanguage.com/learn-hangul.html
Sooo, Chedong?
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Austin10831 Posts
On November 23 2009 10:55 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2009 10:48 Hot_Bid wrote:
you don't sound like a bisu anti fan I am I swear
Yeah, DH hates everything about Bisu: his supple lips, his come-hither gaze, his impeccable Dark Templar micro. Totally hates him.
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On November 23 2009 14:08 BroOd wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2009 10:55 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On November 23 2009 10:48 Hot_Bid wrote:
you don't sound like a bisu anti fan I am I swear Yeah, DH hates everything about Bisu: his supple lips, his come-hither gaze, his impeccable Dark Templar micro. Totally hates him.
Yep
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Dont forget his sexy Probe Micro!
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Baltimore, USA22251 Posts
On November 23 2009 14:13 Kenpachi wrote:
Dont forget his sexy Probe Micro!
Or his Hold Position micro!
Oh, wait...
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bisu/best/fantasy - hate :p.
Btw: Bisu good looks? Tucker some boobs on him and you got a girl... Seriously...
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I wish Bisu was ugly
it sucks being attracted to your least favorite progamer :/
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I'll have to go with Jangbi. His name annoys me. His face annoys me. He's known for beating 2 of my favorite players in crucial matches (Stork and Calm).
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I used to be quite a Jaedong anti-fan, but my fanboy-ism has gone mild lately, something I blame uni for. I still dislike some players, like Leta, Zero, Effort but I don't see myself flaming in a LR thread again.
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I hate Kwanro. Got banned once for calling him a piece of shit in an LR thread haha.
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
On November 24 2009 21:32 Loanshark wrote:
I hate Kwanro. Got banned once for calling him a piece of shit in an LR thread haha.
I'm sure there are many people out there that don't disagree with you.
Such a gimmicky zerg. If he'd won that MSL, I mighta stopped watching SC altogether.
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I hate Shine. I HATE HIM. Which is weird since Wemade is my second or third favorite team.
And I hate Bisu too. Whenever I see Bisu`s photo something says "PRETTY MOTHERFUCKER" inside me. Probably jealousy  Oh, and I hate all of SKT... except Boxer perhaps.
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On November 23 2009 09:42 Captain Mayhem wrote:
I don't really think that I hate the players, if I think about it. It's more the fanatic fanboys that I rapidly start to dislike, and therefore "have" to dislike their player, or start doing it naturally.
I'm anti Zerg overall. Got love for Savior though, but that's it.
And I'm a Flash fanboy myself.
I have to agree with that sentiment. I used to really like Jaedong a lot, and I really liked to watch him play. But nowadays, I associate Jaedong with anti Bisu fans. It just seems like a large chunk of the people who bash Bisu are the people who worship Jaedong on a pedestal.
Also to me, it FEELS like every time Jaedong loses, people try to attribute it to the opponent doing cheesy play, "Protoss 1a2a3a" (I'm getting sick of that statement by the way), or some even go so far and blame it on Coach Cho. It's like Jaedong is immortal and can't lose on his own accord.
It also feels like every Jaedong fan is a Bisu anti fan, whereas I don't feel that all Bisu fans dislike Jaedong. Again, that's just the way it feels to me, it probably isn't true.
I also feel that same anti fandom is way over the top, especially when it comes to Bisu. Some people hate him on a personal level, which is just taking it way too far if they've never met him and if it's OVER A VIDEO GAME. Bisu may make arrogant statements, and he may beat your favorite player, but it's not like he robbed a bank or killed your firstborn.
But yeah, I must say that the rabidness of Jaedong fans caused me to like Jaedong less. Which makes me sad because Jaedong is a really nice guy and a really devoted progamer. It's just hard for me to like him when a lot of people who defend him have such aggressive opinions and have to trash talk the players *I* like to justify Jaedong's losses.
This is slightly off topic, but concerning the Jaedong-Bisu "rivalry," I must say that even as a Bisu fan I just don't see it. Those two don't really talk to each other, they don't know each other, and aside from that one game on Blue Storm, most of their matches against each other don't really excite me. I don't know why people like watching Jaedong and Bisu play each other - I'd much prefer a Flash vs. Jaedong, a Bisu vs. Stork, or even a Stork vs. Jaedong. I don't know, I think they're both good players but I just don't see that "spark of rivalry" between them that makes rivalry matches so exciting.
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konadora
Singapore66131 Posts
I hate Leta
Just because of everything
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