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tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
November 27 2009 21:23 GMT
#161
I was wondering why this kept getting bumped and now I know. DL time~
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
November 27 2009 21:38 GMT
#162
Thanks, yo!
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
zimp
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary951 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-28 03:35:19
November 28 2009 03:21 GMT
#163
romad please tell me why ;;
beware: ~ 1000x3500 pic
http://images.netbag.hu/20091128/04184573914.jpg
0,9 cc matching, 8 to cc matching, 4 rax, 5 sp, everyting matches. maybe 3-4 and overall spam is harder? he may tries to be faster cause hes inactive? he did use 3-4 more than 567 before too.
also kt.mgw)smile and "ra young don" is him i think.


edit: i just found a mistake in the pack: i put force[name] vs hyuk to zvp sorry for that
agentzimp
TL+ Member
roMAD
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Russia2355 Posts
November 28 2009 07:23 GMT
#164
On November 28 2009 12:21 zimp wrote:
romad please tell me why ;;
beware: ~ 1000x3500 pic
http://images.netbag.hu/20091128/04184573914.jpg
0,9 cc matching, 8 to cc matching, 4 rax, 5 sp, everyting matches. maybe 3-4 and overall spam is harder? he may tries to be faster cause hes inactive? he did use 3-4 more than 567 before too.
also kt.mgw)smile and "ra young don" is him i think.


edit: i just found a mistake in the pack: i put force[name] vs hyuk to zvp sorry for that

because they are different people
zimp
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary951 Posts
November 28 2009 14:27 GMT
#165
how do you know?
agentzimp
TL+ Member
roMAD
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Russia2355 Posts
November 28 2009 16:04 GMT
#166
On November 28 2009 23:27 zimp wrote:
how do you know?

They have different names, and Zero is semi-pro.
zimp
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary951 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-28 16:40:06
November 28 2009 16:39 GMT
#167
On November 29 2009 01:04 roMAD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2009 23:27 zimp wrote:
how do you know?

They have different names, and Zero is semi-pro.

source? proof?

i don't think you lie, i just find it strange that two people would have 100% same unique pattern
agentzimp
TL+ Member
roMAD
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Russia2355 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-28 17:15:04
November 28 2009 16:44 GMT
#168
On November 29 2009 01:39 zimp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2009 01:04 roMAD wrote:
On November 28 2009 23:27 zimp wrote:
how do you know?

They have different names, and Zero is semi-pro.

source? proof?

i don't think you lie, i just find it strange that two people would have 100% same unique pattern

he played in semi-pro/amateur tourney, where he wrote his name ra young don, which is different from oov's and i find it strange that oov would be playing under NsP_Sharp

oh and btw by.joker is sea.bee aka dolphin[kal] and i am sure that Oversky changed hotkeys and every Iccup account that i told was Clon was actually Oversky
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
November 29 2009 04:12 GMT
#169
any recommendations?

I've only watched 2
Bisu vs. Mind (as someone already recommended)
Bisu vs. Hyuk(3) <--- awesome!
KTY
Cu(oCo)
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Italy358 Posts
November 29 2009 06:53 GMT
#170
<3
Goons? just vulture toys 휴.휴
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10009 Posts
November 29 2009 19:01 GMT
#171
On November 27 2009 20:50 zimp wrote:
im sorry for the late post.

ULTIMATE REPPACK (~300 replays, sorted by patch and mu)
http://sc.replays.hu/download.php?file=156&userlang=enus
direct link:
http://sc.replays.hu/download.php?download=156

ID changes

(opponent), wrong ID -> right id, (account)

(vs keke) skyhigh -> SungEun (superlowkick)
(vs flash) midas -> Fantasy (BaeSeulKl)
(vs 48ghlEkwk) FBH -> oo3 (dldmdtkd)
(vs bisu) zerg[kal] -> Sungsun ((___X___))
(vs light) by.hero -> Rarity (Rainy)
(vs flash) yellow -> ever)z(aqua (GOLDUST)
(vs Rushgoon) nsp_sharp -> iloveoov (nsp_sharp)
(vs thezerg) much -> Anytime (n0ryong)
(vs savior) devil -> Kwanro (korean name)
(vs bisu) nanja -> Magma (korean name)
(vs flash) backho -> Stats (8282)
(vs kitty) doochi -> ZergbOy (lecaf_Doochi)
(vs history) jangbi -> Mujuk (core2)
(vs jangbi) midas -> History ([gm])
(vs bisu) ace[s.g] -> Thezerg (ggplay)
(vs bisu) midas -> TrOt (gotjrgkwlak)

oversky =/= oversky
diana- =/= sangho (MAYBE Haksoo)
wkd =/= violet

some missing akas

Ryan aka SangHo
CuteAngel aka Frozean
Secret aka Haksoo
na[shield] aka 1988
Adamas[aLive] aka Casy
monkiz[gm] aka shark
crocus aka justin
kespa31 aka pusan


amazing
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
anderoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1876 Posts
November 29 2009 19:10 GMT
#172
i'm making my way through the TvT's right now, and i have to say once you start to understand that MU it becomes WAY more exciting to watch
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
November 29 2009 21:38 GMT
#173
Awesome thanks for the compilation!
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
win8282
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Korea (South)454 Posts
November 30 2009 16:37 GMT
#174
On November 29 2009 01:44 roMAD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2009 01:39 zimp wrote:
On November 29 2009 01:04 roMAD wrote:
On November 28 2009 23:27 zimp wrote:
how do you know?

They have different names, and Zero is semi-pro.

source? proof?

i don't think you lie, i just find it strange that two people would have 100% same unique pattern

he played in semi-pro/amateur tourney, where he wrote his name ra young don, which is different from oov's and i find it strange that oov would be playing under NsP_Sharp

oh and btw by.joker is sea.bee aka dolphin[kal] and i am sure that Oversky changed hotkeys and every Iccup account that i told was Clon was actually Oversky


Lesson of the moment:
do not question roMAD. He's not even human. He's a computer program run by cray supercomputers (which TL is borrowing).
zimp
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary951 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-30 20:47:25
November 30 2009 20:44 GMT
#175
On December 01 2009 01:37 win8282 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2009 01:44 roMAD wrote:
On November 29 2009 01:39 zimp wrote:
On November 29 2009 01:04 roMAD wrote:
On November 28 2009 23:27 zimp wrote:
how do you know?

They have different names, and Zero is semi-pro.

source? proof?

i don't think you lie, i just find it strange that two people would have 100% same unique pattern

he played in semi-pro/amateur tourney, where he wrote his name ra young don, which is different from oov's and i find it strange that oov would be playing under NsP_Sharp

oh and btw by.joker is sea.bee aka dolphin[kal] and i am sure that Oversky changed hotkeys and every Iccup account that i told was Clon was actually Oversky


Lesson of the moment:
do not question roMAD. He's not even human. He's a computer program run by cray supercomputers (which TL is borrowing).


well i do because im not a sheep.

actually i still dont feel convinced. was it an offline or online tourney?

about oversky: remember entourage reps. among them there was this:
http://www.repdepot.net/replay.php?id=25440
who is this? it kinda looks like the guy playing in the pack.
and theres no 6-7 spawning pool so i dont know why do you assumed its clon.
agentzimp
TL+ Member
roMAD
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Russia2355 Posts
December 01 2009 07:26 GMT
#176
On December 01 2009 05:44 zimp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2009 01:37 win8282 wrote:
On November 29 2009 01:44 roMAD wrote:
On November 29 2009 01:39 zimp wrote:
On November 29 2009 01:04 roMAD wrote:
On November 28 2009 23:27 zimp wrote:
how do you know?

They have different names, and Zero is semi-pro.

source? proof?

i don't think you lie, i just find it strange that two people would have 100% same unique pattern

he played in semi-pro/amateur tourney, where he wrote his name ra young don, which is different from oov's and i find it strange that oov would be playing under NsP_Sharp

oh and btw by.joker is sea.bee aka dolphin[kal] and i am sure that Oversky changed hotkeys and every Iccup account that i told was Clon was actually Oversky


Lesson of the moment:
do not question roMAD. He's not even human. He's a computer program run by cray supercomputers (which TL is borrowing).


well i do because im not a sheep.

actually i still dont feel convinced. was it an offline or online tourney?

about oversky: remember entourage reps. among them there was this:
http://www.repdepot.net/replay.php?id=25440
who is this? it kinda looks like the guy playing in the pack.
and theres no 6-7 spawning pool so i dont know why do you assumed its clon.

It was an offline tourney. Fine that you don't feel convinced, it's not my concern. It might have been OverSky changing his hotkeys, because later he assings hatches on 3,4,5,6 - his usual pattern. I assumed it was Clon because they were both in Ace at that time and the hotkeys are Clon's no matter assings he pool on 6,7 or not. It's logical that Oversky could give him the account, i can't see any other explanation except that Oversky changed his hotkeys.
Oh and you do understand that KT.MGW)Never is GGPlay?
zimp
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary951 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-01 09:32:40
December 01 2009 08:09 GMT
#177
On December 01 2009 16:26 roMAD wrote:
Oh and you do understand that KT.MGW)Never is GGPlay?


i do 'understand'.

edit:
On December 01 2009 16:26 roMAD wrote:
It was an offline tourney. Fine that you don't feel convinced, it's not my concern.


not fine for me. accepting the fact that they came up with the same pattern is like kills the whole point of identification with hotkeys. cause if they have the same, how can we be sure that anyone we identified is not someone else?
what if kt.mgw)zero just sat down, looked at oovs hotkeys and said 'ok now i'll copy your pattern, so ill be gorilla from now'
or can you point out some differences between their pattern?
agentzimp
TL+ Member
roMAD
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Russia2355 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-01 10:18:20
December 01 2009 10:12 GMT
#178
On December 01 2009 17:09 zimp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2009 16:26 roMAD wrote:
Oh and you do understand that KT.MGW)Never is GGPlay?


i do 'understand'.

edit:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2009 16:26 roMAD wrote:
It was an offline tourney. Fine that you don't feel convinced, it's not my concern.


not fine for me. accepting the fact that they came up with the same pattern is like kills the whole point of identification with hotkeys. cause if they have the same, how can we be sure that anyone we identified is not someone else?
what if kt.mgw)zero just sat down, looked at oovs hotkeys and said 'ok now i'll copy your pattern, so ill be gorilla from now'
or can you point out some differences between their pattern?

That's why identifying a progamer doesn't mean to fully rely on one's hotkeys. Intuition and logical assumptions play a huge role as well. In this case, you can distinguish them by clear rally action, Zero has more clear rally than set rally opposing to oov. And with logical assumption, you can tell that oov would not play under NsP_Sharp, because he is very unlikely to have any relations with him whatsoever. Sharp was a KT member at that time (now he's in Samsung) and he is very young and started playing sc much later than oov. Afaik in korean society older progamers rarely hang out with younger ones. Zero and Sharp were amateurs at the same time and seeing them obsing each other's games makes me think that they might be friends. Koreans tend to make Iccup id's with someone's West id (example: Gosi[Flying] playing under Melon[S.G]). Also, i pretty much doubt it that oov plays at all. Maybe some games in the training house, he's a coach and has other things to do. This is not an argument of course in the NsP_Sharp case, but assuming that he might have played in some tourney with amateurs and semi-pros is illogical to me.
And nothing strange to me that Zero decided to copy his idol's hotkeys
zimp
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary951 Posts
December 01 2009 12:28 GMT
#179
much better now.
agentzimp
TL+ Member
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10009 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-05 23:01:22
December 05 2009 23:01 GMT
#180
lol hotkey analysis 101
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
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