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eMbrace
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1300 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-14 00:53:42
November 08 2009 23:51 GMT
#1
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Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
November 08 2009 23:54 GMT
#2
Don't give up just yet. One class isn't all there is. Keep at it, if it's a field you really enjoy, then why give up just now?
God Bless
eMbrace
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1300 Posts
November 08 2009 23:55 GMT
#3
On November 09 2009 08:54 Roffles wrote:
Don't give up just yet. One class isn't all there is. Keep at it, if it's a field you really enjoy, then why give up just now?


a C doesn't look good when you're looking for a job =/
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
November 08 2009 23:56 GMT
#4
I wouldn't go into econ. No offense to econ majors here, but my experience has been very dissapointing. I've found that the courses aren't really that challenging, and the job prospects are less than optimal. There are of course exceptions to this, but my friend just graduated with an econ degree and is currently in the military because he couldn't find a job. I'm sure there are people who land great jobs with an econ degree, but I haven't seen it. I would probably stick it out. A degree like computer science is definitely worth keeping, even if you're not getting straight A's..
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
November 08 2009 23:57 GMT
#5
The majority of jobs don't require transcripts, I don't think, unless you're going into a masters program.
d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
November 08 2009 23:57 GMT
#6
sigh

make friends with people who think it's easy and work with them/ask them for help
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
November 08 2009 23:59 GMT
#7
computer science has a pretty high learning curve. everything probably gets relatively easy once you learn your first language though.
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
category
Profile Joined July 2009
United States85 Posts
November 09 2009 00:04 GMT
#8
A C is ok if the other grades are better.. It sounds like the professor isn't teaching very well and the TA's aren't providing much help. Maybe you could ask the TA's if they'd be willing to spend some time working with you alone (I don't think it's an unreasonable request). Or you could find other students in the class who are getting the material, and get help from them.
CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
November 09 2009 00:11 GMT
#9
don't get discouraged because of a minor snag like a few hard assignments. engineering and comp sci degrees are pretty tough - not many students make it through without a C or D here and there. some of the best programmers i've worked with have Fs on their transcripts. and these are the kinds of guys who write their own rss readers in perl and tk -- so don't let it get you too down.

in addition, you shouldn't worry too much about having trouble with c++, as it's a notoriously difficult and obtuse language. even if your assignments don't involve them, things like multiple inheritance, templates, and lack of a gc make high-level c++ dev frustrating.
By the way, my name is Funk. I am not of your world
SanguineToss
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada815 Posts
November 09 2009 00:15 GMT
#10
wait.........your changing majors cause of one class mark?
CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
November 09 2009 00:15 GMT
#11
On November 09 2009 08:55 eMbrace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2009 08:54 Roffles wrote:
Don't give up just yet. One class isn't all there is. Keep at it, if it's a field you really enjoy, then why give up just now?


a C doesn't look good when you're looking for a job =/

just to add some more anecdotal experience here: i hardly boast a pristine transcript, and i've had lots of jobs in the cs industry. the best employers are looking for the ability to learn quickly, enthusiasm, interest in programming outside of work. if you can code well they don't care too much about grades.
By the way, my name is Funk. I am not of your world
illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-09 00:24:18
November 09 2009 00:21 GMT
#12
It's a course on computer programming? Then it's not an accurate representation of all computer science courses.

Remember the most difficult, yet also the most interesting courses in computer science are data structures, algorithms, numerical methods, and computational complexity. As far as I know none of those above requires you to write computer programs. I sat in computational complexity last summer and it was extremely interesting (I am a mathematician so I might be biased).

Also, looking at your text, I think you are a good student and you should be able to avoid a C. Even if you did get a C, for argument's sake, I believe you will still be OK. Most graduate schools are generous enough to forgive one C, especially if it occured in lower years... unless you want to do medicine, law, or dentistry, but I don't think that's what you want to do.
:]
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
November 09 2009 00:28 GMT
#13
Computer science is really like that. I've taken a lot of random classes learning different languages and they all felt like that...they start off very simple, fun and interesting, but then the difficulty level scales exponentially. My personal experience isn't very helpful, useful or relevant here, though. I'm just expressing my own personal agreement, haha.

What I can say, however, is that computer science takes a LOT of independent work. I know/know of fairly many people who are majors like you, graduated with computer science degrees. It seems to be that way not just for the classes, but for the major as a whole. You really have to have a vested personal interest in the topic in order to keep up...you'll fall behind if you're not willing to keep up on your own outside of class as well.

In other words, you really have to be a CS nerd in order to manage the major. :X

Hello
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
November 09 2009 00:40 GMT
#14
On November 09 2009 09:11 CTStalker wrote:
don't get discouraged because of a minor snag like a few hard assignments. engineering and comp sci degrees are pretty tough - not many students make it through without a C or D here and there. some of the best programmers i've worked with have Fs on their transcripts. and these are the kinds of guys who write their own rss readers in perl and tk -- so don't let it get you too down.

in addition, you shouldn't worry too much about having trouble with c++, as it's a notoriously difficult and obtuse language. even if your assignments don't involve them, things like multiple inheritance, templates, and lack of a gc make high-level c++ dev frustrating.


Also, by your second job, your prospective employer will give diddly squat about your grades in college. So don't stress about a bad grade, it happens to everyone.
Get it by your hands...
dasanivan
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States532 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-09 00:41:12
November 09 2009 00:40 GMT
#15
One bad mark doesn't mean anything as long as you're really working hard to improve. There are many paths to success and just because something is not perfect does not mean you should give it up for something completely different, especially in this case if you've "aced" the midterm. If you give up at the first sign of failure this easily (a b isn't even a failure, c'mon.) it speaks a lot about how you'll handle difficult situations in the future.

I don't know, maybe you have a more thorough understanding of your own situation. It's up to you to decide.
eMbrace
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1300 Posts
November 09 2009 00:50 GMT
#16
thanks for all the input guys

i just feel at a disadvantage because i'm behind other students at such an early stage. i don't understand these recent programs and as I said, they build off one another -- and our next exam is going to be about what we did in them as well.

so a B can tank down to a C fairly quickly in that case, I'll figure out something though -- and i'll probably take more courses next semester.
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
November 09 2009 00:59 GMT
#17
I have a lot of friends who have recieved CS degrees in the last 2 years who are now all currently employed in the field, and I'm pretty sure none of them had good GPAs.

I was told specifically by one of the CS advisers that no one leaves with good record but I have no idea if that is specific to our school or the whatever.
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
November 09 2009 01:01 GMT
#18
On November 09 2009 09:50 eMbrace wrote:
thanks for all the input guys

i just feel at a disadvantage because i'm behind other students at such an early stage. i don't understand these recent programs and as I said, they build off one another -- and our next exam is going to be about what we did in them as well.

so a B can tank down to a C fairly quickly in that case, I'll figure out something though -- and i'll probably take more courses next semester.


To be honest, I hated first and second year math courses. They were very all very computational courses with little theory in it, which I really hate - and hatred translated into mediocore grades. It wasn't until third year that I started getting straight A+s.
:]
Equaoh
Profile Joined October 2008
Canada427 Posts
November 09 2009 01:08 GMT
#19
Come to science, we need more CS people to model physiological and especially neural systems for us.
swat
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Australia142 Posts
November 09 2009 01:11 GMT
#20
Mate you shouldn't just rely on the lecturers and TA's (teaching assistants? Is that the same as tutors here in Australia?). Just use the major resource you have available to you... the Internet... or more precise... Google. There is enough information on the Internet and trust me someone else has ran in to your problems before and most probably posted something on the internet (in regards to c++ anyway).

In all seriousness though these people saying that one C or something on your transcript isn't bad... well it isn't, it is just that you want to have a strong understanding of the basics of c++ so that the more complex stuff isn't as difficult. So getting some C's here and there isn't bad as long as at the end of the day if you don't understand something but still passed, go back do some more work / research and try to grasp these things.
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