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ThE_OsToJiY
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Canada1167 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-18 02:11:48
September 18 2009 02:02 GMT
#1
Just got a new laptop and I have OS CDs for Vista and XP. I currently use XP on my PC and it works fine, but I dunno what to use. Using it mainly for work...

FYI

http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/ca/en/sm/WF25a/321957-321957-64295-3955549-3955549-3688868.html?jumpid=re_r552_ca/smb/psg/volumeLead_prod_ref/landing/nbks/b3

2gb ram

@ostojiy
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
September 18 2009 02:04 GMT
#2
Vista.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
triangle
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3803 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-18 02:06:42
September 18 2009 02:05 GMT
#3
XP.

I have yet to see any reason to switch to vista.

Edit -- free upgrade to 7 is a pretty compelling reason :p
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Hacksaw11
Profile Joined July 2008
Australia359 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-18 02:06:58
September 18 2009 02:05 GMT
#4
how many ram?
if u ahve 4gb go for vista, then windows7 think its free upgrade if you go from vista

sum1 confirm :p
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b3h47pte
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States1317 Posts
September 18 2009 02:06 GMT
#5
Vista free upgrade to Windows 7.
if you don't want Windows 7 ( for whatever odd reason), go XP.
Folca
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
2235 Posts
September 18 2009 02:08 GMT
#6
XP wtf.
Dea : one time when he was playing vs the comps he asked me "how do I make that flying unit that makes the other stuff invisible" and I reply "ur playing terran zomg"
ThE_OsToJiY
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Canada1167 Posts
September 18 2009 02:09 GMT
#7
2 GB of ram D:
@ostojiy
Hacksaw11
Profile Joined July 2008
Australia359 Posts
September 18 2009 02:11 GMT
#8
stick with XP

i tried vista, didnt like it.

so XP it... yeah you love it
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ketomai
Profile Joined June 2007
United States2789 Posts
September 18 2009 02:14 GMT
#9
Windows 7 will trump both soon (I think it still runs well even on 2gig ram system). I was using the RC version for one of my laptops of Windows 7, and the battery was like twice as long and it was way faster.
ThE_OsToJiY
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Canada1167 Posts
September 18 2009 02:19 GMT
#10
Yea I am thinking living with vista off 2gb for a while because w7 has been optimized for 2gb. =.=
@ostojiy
skronch
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2717 Posts
September 18 2009 02:20 GMT
#11
xp for sure. there aren't really any compelling reasons to upgrade to vista
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-18 02:23:53
September 18 2009 02:21 GMT
#12
On September 18 2009 11:11 Stuyvesant wrote:
stick with XP

i tried vista, didnt like it.

so XP it... yeah you love it

I find a lot of people who have used XP for ages and have not played around with Vista say this.

I'm not saying one is better than the other, but some people just don't like change. If you are willing to spend the little extra time to familiarize yourself with an OS, I would just go for Vista/Windows 7.

EDIT: Also, as the above post says, there's no big reason to upgrade to Vista, but if you have the choice of starting out with one of them, I'd have to say there's no major reason to pick such an older OS such as XP over Vista or 7.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Chuiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
3470 Posts
September 18 2009 02:25 GMT
#13
XP, but if you can get Windows 7, it improves in certain areas over XP (not all obviously but its enough to be worth getting).
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da_head
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3350 Posts
September 18 2009 02:27 GMT
#14
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mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
September 18 2009 02:31 GMT
#15
vista if you have the hardware

it's funny how people recommend 7 and then be lik omg vista is so bad because for the average user they are nearly the same.

i used to think there was no reason to switch to vista over xp but i also used to format routinely (like every 3 months) because xp would slow down drastically over time. vista is less affected by that to the point where i dont format anymore at all for speed reasons.
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Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
September 18 2009 02:33 GMT
#16
XP. Preferably.

If you're talking XP vs. 7, it's tougher. It depends on what kind of a Windows user you are really.

Though if you don't convert to 7 eventually, might I recommend Linux? :D
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Saddened Izzy
Profile Joined July 2009
United States198 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-18 02:45:45
September 18 2009 02:40 GMT
#17
On September 18 2009 11:11 Stuyvesant wrote:
stick with XP

i tried vista, didnt like it.

so XP it... yeah you love it

Translation

I tired the new OS i don't know shit about it...now i'm scared man this sucks... imma switch back to XP

Also i think you are getting shafted for 2 gigs of ram you should get 4 gigs ez at ddr2

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148191

This is what it should have in it 4 gigs of 1066 ddr3 ram which that chipset and cpu support and is recommend with that fsb

I mean at least 4 gigs of ddr2 ram in that suckka
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227251
cost diff 20 bucks on consumer side it's like nothing for hp they are probably getting rid of over stocked ram or some shit
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caldo149
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States469 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-18 02:45:51
September 18 2009 02:43 GMT
#18
Honestly the only thing better about XP is it's a bit more stable... but once you get the hang of Vista it's fine. I like Vista more because it has more features and a better user interface. Also it lets you disable mouse acceleration without editing the registry, which may help when playing SC. I have 2 GB RAM and Vista is just fine and dandy... I don't use the aero theme either.

EDIT: and by all means go for Windows7 if you can, I hear it's better than either XP or Vista.
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BookTwo
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1985 Posts
September 18 2009 02:47 GMT
#19
XP
make a poll?
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11554 Posts
September 18 2009 02:55 GMT
#20
7
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Kurosaki
Profile Joined August 2008
United States158 Posts
September 18 2009 02:57 GMT
#21
Vista. So easy an XP user can do it.
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
September 18 2009 03:03 GMT
#22
If your laptop can handle Vista, use that. If not, you won't miss much with using XP.
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Fr33t
Profile Joined June 2008
United States1128 Posts
September 18 2009 03:32 GMT
#23
Please don't get XP, despite what some tell you Vista is perfectly fine now and 7 is even better.
"Wow you could literally transport Lomo's face to a girl and the result would be pretty deceptive."
geometryb
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States1249 Posts
September 18 2009 03:32 GMT
#24
vista
Chuiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
3470 Posts
September 18 2009 03:35 GMT
#25
On September 18 2009 11:31 mahnini wrote:
vista if you have the hardware

it's funny how people recommend 7 and then be lik omg vista is so bad because for the average user they are nearly the same.

If you have the hardware. Yes you are correct, but if you don't have the hardware for Vista but do for XP then you can also run 7. The thing about 7 is while it is very close to Vista it is a huge performance leap on older or weaker hardware. For example, I cannot run Vista (without it being as slow as piss) on my netbook and you would find it near impossible to find a netbook with Vista on it. But I loaded 7 onto it and its amazingly fast for the hardware specs that it has (go do a search for netbook specs, they're all roughly the same).

So yes if you have the hardware the differences are harder to notice, but if you don't exactly have a great machine then 7 does shine.
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mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
September 18 2009 04:21 GMT
#26
but you recommended xp over vista when he clearly has the hardware so...
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
Chuiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
3470 Posts
September 18 2009 04:26 GMT
#27
I'm sure as hell not going to recommend Vista. XP and 7 are both better, why the fuck wouldn't I recommend them?

Its like being served three drinks that are roughly the same and drinking the crappiest one because 'eh they're all roughly the same'.
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iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
September 18 2009 04:57 GMT
#28
vista, since sp1 its been better thn xp
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
September 18 2009 05:10 GMT
#29
On September 18 2009 13:26 Chuiu wrote:
I'm sure as hell not going to recommend Vista. XP and 7 are both better, why the fuck wouldn't I recommend them?

Its like being served three drinks that are roughly the same and drinking the crappiest one because 'eh they're all roughly the same'.


Eh, did you turn off UAC and aero in vista before making judgment? Because if not, you're pretty stupid. How do you expect to run a shit ton of eye candy on one OS, nothing on the other and then complain that the former is too slow? Most netbooks have integrated graphics so of course Aero is going to really slow the computer down.

Anyway I recommend Vista because it runs very fast on my laptop and you can upgrade to windows 7 without having to do a clean install. I have xp desktop and vista laptop and there is NO advantage that xp has over vista. In fact, my desktop has been getting countless blue screens while my laptop has gotten literally nothing. Of course, the desktop has a lot more software and different hardware and other crap installed so I'm hesitant to blame it on XP. But vista has never crashed on me yet and I will be upgrading to 7 on both computers.
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mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-18 05:52:38
September 18 2009 05:37 GMT
#30
On September 18 2009 13:26 Chuiu wrote:
I'm sure as hell not going to recommend Vista. XP and 7 are both better, why the fuck wouldn't I recommend them?

Its like being served three drinks that are roughly the same and drinking the crappiest one because 'eh they're all roughly the same'.

except 7 is for all intents and purposes a slightly faster vista? we're talking about a couple seconds in specific apps. and vista is even faster than 7 in some apps so...

the only really large improvements come from network transfer speeds which the average user probably does not care about. they also mention 'snappier ui' but also admit that aspect could not be measured reliably.

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/reviews/windows_7_review?page=0,3

i'm not saying windows 7 isnt better than vista. i'm saying you cant really insult vista without shitting on windows 7 as well. thus, the fact that you would recommend XP over vista because it is better is kinda bleh when benchmarks show that 7 trades off with vista
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
September 18 2009 06:40 GMT
#31
On September 18 2009 11:31 mahnini wrote:
vista if you have the hardware

it's funny how people recommend 7 and then be lik omg vista is so bad because for the average user they are nearly the same.

i used to think there was no reason to switch to vista over xp but i also used to format routinely (like every 3 months) because xp would slow down drastically over time. vista is less affected by that to the point where i dont format anymore at all for speed reasons.

No one pays attention when I say this. Every speed test is done on a fresh install. Do a speed test on 9 month old systems and XP will get curb stomped by both Vista and 7.

Anyways, 2GB of ram is a bit low but I'd get Vista, and then later get the 7 upgrade. I'd also buy some more ram if I were you, since it's pretty cheap anyways and pretty useful.
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
September 18 2009 06:44 GMT
#32
On September 18 2009 14:37 mahnini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2009 13:26 Chuiu wrote:
I'm sure as hell not going to recommend Vista. XP and 7 are both better, why the fuck wouldn't I recommend them?

Its like being served three drinks that are roughly the same and drinking the crappiest one because 'eh they're all roughly the same'.

except 7 is for all intents and purposes a slightly faster vista? we're talking about a couple seconds in specific apps. and vista is even faster than 7 in some apps so...

the only really large improvements come from network transfer speeds which the average user probably does not care about. they also mention 'snappier ui' but also admit that aspect could not be measured reliably.

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/reviews/windows_7_review?page=0,3

i'm not saying windows 7 isnt better than vista. i'm saying you cant really insult vista without shitting on windows 7 as well. thus, the fact that you would recommend XP over vista because it is better is kinda bleh when benchmarks show that 7 trades off with vista

In synthetic benchmarks, 7 and Vista run very close but I think with animations and response times, 7 is somehow a bit snappier. It might be psychological, but I think the presentation of information (not access times, but display times) is quicker.

That said, you're basically right. 7 and Vista are running the same thing under the hood, which is nice because the driver base for both operating systems is about 95% the same.
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mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
September 18 2009 06:53 GMT
#33
i havent used 7 extensively and the little experience i have was with VMs within vista but it seemed the same to me though i havent tried the RTM yet. could it be due to different default aero settings? like how windows fade in and out, maybe they just sped that up or got rid of it altogether.

or 7 could just plain be faster. i just wish my mobo drivers would come out faster
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
meathook
Profile Joined December 2007
1289 Posts
September 18 2009 08:29 GMT
#34
Do you even have to ask? XP, obviously.
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haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
September 18 2009 12:15 GMT
#35
Or none? www.ubuntu.com

i just had to.
Rillanon.au
ero
Profile Joined April 2009
United States66 Posts
September 18 2009 16:11 GMT
#36
hating on vista is so 2007.

it's fine now.
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
September 18 2009 16:51 GMT
#37
Win7
FreeZEternal
Profile Joined January 2003
Korea (South)3396 Posts
September 18 2009 17:07 GMT
#38
Vista SP2 is fine.
Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
September 18 2009 17:13 GMT
#39
I'm sticking to XP on my current computer because it's old (circa 2006) but when I buy my new laptop I'm definitely going to get windows 7. Really, you can do anything in XP so don't feel pressured to switch if you don't want to.
Tom Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
1114 Posts
September 18 2009 17:17 GMT
#40
2 GBs of RAM is really low if you intend to use Vista. As such, between those two, I would recommend sticking to XP:

But of course, as far as I know, Seven preety much trumps both.
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mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
September 18 2009 19:17 GMT
#41
im actually using 2gb with vista 64. isnt low at all.
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
September 18 2009 20:15 GMT
#42
7 > XP > Vista. But for 2 gb i recommend staying on XP.

I've been using vista for only half a year though. This system tries to control your actions too much lol. Can't use non-certified themes, drivers (daemon tools/peer guardian 2 had problems due to that for quite some time), plus it detects new network in my dorm's LAN like 30 times a day o.O (everyone who used to use Vista here confirms it, it is quite annoying since it "forgets" any "old LAN" when detecting "new one" thus causing disconnects... )

But mostly - i recommend you to use all 3 of the systems simultaneously (or just xp + vista) for like 6 months - probably your HDD does have enough space. Then you will find system that suits you the best

TBH only people who i know that still use Vista are people who use laptops and say that they will lose their guarantee if they reinstall system (even though I've heard that you just can't format the "recovery partition" or w/e it is called but i don't care since i don't use lap anyway)
Tom Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
1114 Posts
September 18 2009 22:33 GMT
#43
On September 19 2009 04:17 mahnini wrote:
im actually using 2gb with vista 64. isnt low at all.


You can still run Vista on a 2GB RAM. The problem appears when you require RAM for something else, like playing games. That is why people usually recommend that Vista users have at least 4 GB of RAM, since then you actually have RAM to spare to run Vista along other RAM-intensive activities.
You and your "5 years of competitive RTS experience" can take a hike. - FrozenArbiter
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-18 23:56:47
September 18 2009 23:55 GMT
#44
THREAD LACKS POLL

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Poll: ANOTHER LAPTOP QUESTION
(Vote): XP
(Vote): VISTA
(Vote): OTHER
(Vote): MAC cause I'm noob

..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
September 19 2009 01:44 GMT
#45
On September 19 2009 07:33 Tom Phoenix wrote:
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On September 19 2009 04:17 mahnini wrote:
im actually using 2gb with vista 64. isnt low at all.


You can still run Vista on a 2GB RAM. The problem appears when you require RAM for something else, like playing games. That is why people usually recommend that Vista users have at least 4 GB of RAM, since then you actually have RAM to spare to run Vista along other RAM-intensive activities.

i've played prototype, fallout 3, dead space, portal, grid, and probably a few more games with no problem. though i dont doubt 4gb would give me more overhead and allow me to run stuff in the background while playing it isnt usually a problem with 2gb.
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