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Iccup Odessy 1 [Foreigners]

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never_Nal
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica676 Posts
September 09 2009 00:05 GMT
#1
So, I was playing iccup today after watching Gertorp stream, and decided to try "His TvP Style" witch consists in getting your factory 20 seconds earlier and a faster expansion(10/10/10 Builld). Gertorp goes for 2 vults before tank and mines, so did I ( it actually works pretty good).So I had faster and somehow a safer expansion. My Follow up was getting 2 additional facts and fast pushing since he FE'd, of course I Failed since he had better micro.

Now at this stage of the game I'm pretty much screwed, and the only way of getting back in the game is, either harassing like a whore or getting a new expansion and add more facts.

I decided for the second Option, get a new expansion/upgrades/facts.
At my eyes I'm still behind, so I start playing kind of crappy just focusing on macro laying mines, couple of scans. This Protoss had good map control IMO.

So it comes out like a regular TvP, Protoss expands gets expos/arbiter while Terran after his "OMG FAIL PUSH, YOU SUCK AT MICRO" starts "powering( see Chill definition)".
Now it all comes to one thing DA FIGHTZZZZZ, yea thats right a one hit K.O battle, or Protoss gayness called Recall, So guess what?,
Yep, Protoss gayness Recall, really gay recall, like its amazing how many games Terran loses when the Protoss decides to make Blue Tornado with his arbiters.(I have lost countless times to recall in base, even after defending it, one just gets sooooooo behind, id say Protoss is IMBA) (Artosis comment SUP, ^_^), since I lose so many times to recall i decided to mine up my base and turret other posible "routes for the arbzz" like trying to make a cute trap, and
OHHHHH EMMMMM GEEEEEE, it worked I was amazed the arbiter recall and instead of Blue Tornado he got Blue GUE!, mines are heros. How many Protoss have lost from 3 to 5 goons to a single mine?, Almost every Protoss. It's amazing the power a mine Holds. 125 damage FTW, and it has some kind of "splash", True Terran power. Pure sexiness right there.
Recall became a double edge weapon at my eyes, Blue Tornado(Win) or Blue Gue(Fail), this Protoss got Blue Gue(fail) and right here I just got a new expo while I A moved to his base, no siege or anything just A click all my groups. After the game I checked our apms, yea thats right, "I R APM JUNKIE!!" So I came out with a really LOW apm (compared to other games) I got 210 or something like that(Normally 250) but protoss got 291?, ARE YOU KDDING ME? 290+ apm that is just insane, Dont you guys think? I mean having 290 apm is pretty decent for Protoss IMO.
So to me this guy MUST be Korean, I like him up in iccup and he is from Preu, just amazing Foreigners with Gosu apm, I didn't knew this was Possible/Ture.

So I came up with a Question, How many Foreigners have High apm, and are they respected, or known to the Non-Korean Scene?

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This is my first "long entry" so I would love some FeedBack, on the Writeup and maybe Game, mostly wiretup ^^ THANKS!

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Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-09 00:12:45
September 09 2009 00:11 GMT
#2
This'll get shut pretty soon, but I've got 300+ apm (340 in my last game) and noone cares about me :p

EDIT: ooops, forgot this was a blog. This won't be closed, but flamed to pieces. Enjoy
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Dgtl
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada889 Posts
September 09 2009 00:25 GMT
#3
Alot just a few are
Ret, idra, nony, draco, mondragon, lz, haypro, drieven,

There are alot more, i'm just not as into the foreigner scene though so I can't remember many more
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never_Nal
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica676 Posts
September 09 2009 00:37 GMT
#4
Id like feedback on writeup too ^^
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Zozma
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1626 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-09 00:39:04
September 09 2009 00:38 GMT
#5
Hmmm.

Well, I'm pretty sure most top foreigners are at least 250-300...

Edit: Oh, I get the question now.

Well, I'm around 200 on a good day.
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
September 09 2009 00:45 GMT
#6
290 apm protoss isn't that crazy. APM doesn't mean a whole lot, as I'm sure people will say.
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
September 09 2009 00:48 GMT
#7
The fact that you include LzGamer in that list makes me laugh. I love Jake but he's not even close to being on the level of those players, just because he streams games and gets a good ladder rank doesn't mean he's anywhere near as good as those other players (check out actual accomplishments).
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never_Nal
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica676 Posts
September 09 2009 00:49 GMT
#8
No wiretup feed back?<--------Really interested in this, maybe If you guys liked it I can do weekly wiretups(Iccup Odessy), plus a simple question or so?
Be kind whenever possible. It is always possible.
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
September 09 2009 00:53 GMT
#9
APM honestly is only a rough indicator. I've played 300APM players at D ranks...which obviously doesn't mean shit.
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Freyr
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States500 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-09 01:01:33
September 09 2009 01:01 GMT
#10
On September 09 2009 09:48 Xeris wrote:
The fact that you include LzGamer in that list makes me laugh. I love Jake but he's not even close to being on the level of those players, just because he streams games and gets a good ladder rank doesn't mean he's anywhere near as good as those other players (check out actual accomplishments).


Hi,

If you read the post to which you refer carefully you'll notice no mention of the relative skill of the players involved. He was listing foreigners with 'high' apm.

Hope this helps.
BookTwo
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1985 Posts
September 09 2009 01:06 GMT
#11
I playing a protoss yesterday who had 50 more apm than me, and I won convincingly.
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-09 01:26:40
September 09 2009 01:26 GMT
#12
On September 09 2009 10:01 Freyr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2009 09:48 Xeris wrote:
The fact that you include LzGamer in that list makes me laugh. I love Jake but he's not even close to being on the level of those players, just because he streams games and gets a good ladder rank doesn't mean he's anywhere near as good as those other players (check out actual accomplishments).


Hi,

If you read the post to which you refer carefully you'll notice no mention of the relative skill of the players involved. He was listing foreigners with 'high' apm.

Hope this helps.

Hi,
LZ has relatively low apm

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DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-09 01:29:52
September 09 2009 01:28 GMT
#13
What rank are you op?

And why does your blog sound like a hyperactive ten year old wrote it?

edit: It's easy to be a bad person with high apm, or a decent player with low apm, it's hard to be a really good player with low apm
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dhe95
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1213 Posts
September 09 2009 01:43 GMT
#14
On September 09 2009 09:48 Xeris wrote:
The fact that you include LzGamer in that list makes me laugh. I love Jake but he's not even close to being on the level of those players, just because he streams games and gets a good ladder rank doesn't mean he's anywhere near as good as those other players (check out actual accomplishments).

He recently learned how to actually macro. Lets see how he does.
Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
September 09 2009 01:45 GMT
#15
On September 09 2009 09:25 Dgtl wrote:
Alot just a few are
Ret, idra, nony, draco, mondragon, lz, haypro, drieven,

There are alot more, i'm just not as into the foreigner scene though so I can't remember many more



these guys are respected, but only nony and idra are actually 300+ apm. CMON PEOPLE! lets keep this blog on topic!
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Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
September 09 2009 01:56 GMT
#16
I have tons and tons of reps of D players with 300 apm

Hope that helps!
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
Perguvious
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1783 Posts
September 09 2009 02:03 GMT
#17
*sigh* I have like 180

only thing that keeps me in game in pvt is arbitersss
Freyr
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States500 Posts
September 09 2009 02:05 GMT
#18
On September 09 2009 10:26 DamageControL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2009 10:01 Freyr wrote:
On September 09 2009 09:48 Xeris wrote:
The fact that you include LzGamer in that list makes me laugh. I love Jake but he's not even close to being on the level of those players, just because he streams games and gets a good ladder rank doesn't mean he's anywhere near as good as those other players (check out actual accomplishments).


Hi,

If you read the post to which you refer carefully you'll notice no mention of the relative skill of the players involved. He was listing foreigners with 'high' apm.

Hope this helps.

Hi,
LZ has relatively low apm



Hi,

Good to know, but as you may notice I was not the one who listed him. In fact, I have very little idea of who he is.
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
September 09 2009 02:23 GMT
#19
On September 09 2009 09:53 PH wrote:
APM honestly is only a rough indicator. I've played 300APM players at D ranks...which obviously doesn't mean shit.


Try using a program to check their EAPM, iccup.com has a good one. If htey somehow have 300+ apm and are only D (which i doubt) then their eapm is like 90 if that. lol.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
September 09 2009 02:39 GMT
#20
I hope you know that "gue" is spelled goo...

I agree though, recalls are a pain in the ass to take care of
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
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