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If the Universe is expanding

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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 28 2009 08:23 GMT
#1
What the hell is it expanding into?


Say when 13.7 billion years ago when the expansion from the Big Bang started, or was happening. What the hell was it expanding through/into?

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Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vatican City State491 Posts
August 28 2009 08:25 GMT
#2
What if time = the same variable as the expansion of the universe? I always wondered that
DeathByMonkeys
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States742 Posts
August 28 2009 08:31 GMT
#3
Space, a multi-verse, black nothingness... we as a race will probably never know and I know you will never know. Outer parts of the universe are expanding faster then the speed of light, which means we can never reach them according to Einstein.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
August 28 2009 08:36 GMT
#4
it's not expanding into anything
it's just stretching out, changing shape

at least there is no reason to believe anything more than that (i think)
Ichigo1234551
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States649 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-28 08:45:08
August 28 2009 08:37 GMT
#5
You cant think of the expansion in 3 dimensional. The universe is actually expanding outward in 16 dimensions. The end of time and beginning of time is actually going in the same direction as it expanding. When you move from one place to another, its actually the 15th dimension that is moving with you. If we look at the 2 slits experiment, there are actually 12 explanation for it. One of the explanation is that there parallel universe and maybe infinity of universe if you see it in dimension 7. In order to understand the larger picture we need to understand the fundamental parts of the universe. Super string theory explains the universe in only 10 dimensions. You need to get to 16 dimensions.
The thing is our brain needs to imagine the 16 dimensions. Since we only experience the 3rd dimension, we think in the 4th dimension. In order to get to higher dimension, we need to use drugs to open our brain up. I would suggest taking a large amount of weed to understand parallel universe. One time I ate brownie and got so high. I was between two universe. Two of my conscious mind were connected into one. At first I was jumping from one mind into another but both of my minds joined into one. Also if you think about how our brain creates reality. What if our brain is what keeping us in this universe. If we were to released from our brain could travel into other universe with our consciousness. I'm planning to study more about physics and possibly find a way to travel between universes.
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NrG.Bamboo
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2756 Posts
August 28 2009 08:40 GMT
#6
the big bang was an inside job
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JoeMcDoug
Profile Joined May 2009
United States10 Posts
August 28 2009 08:42 GMT
#7
Expanding is not the best word to use. This is the simplest explanation.
BookTwo
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1985 Posts
August 28 2009 08:49 GMT
#8
the big bang is a theory.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
August 28 2009 08:52 GMT
#9
If you can answer this question satisfactorily with proof + backing, you'd win a Nobel Prize.

Not a simple question :[
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sanji_
Profile Joined June 2009
United States16 Posts
August 28 2009 08:54 GMT
#10
On August 28 2009 17:49 BookTwo wrote:
the big bang is a theory.

And your lack of understanding of what a scientific theory means is aggravating.
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BookTwo
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1985 Posts
August 28 2009 09:00 GMT
#11
it is still a theory.

Theory: A theory, in the general sense of the word, is an analytic structure designed to explain a set of observations.

Fact: Is a reality, truth

Information that has been objectively verified.

a concept whose truth can be proved; "scientific hypotheses are not facts"
betaben
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
681 Posts
August 28 2009 09:17 GMT
#12
remember, the big bang was the supposed start of time and the dimensions of space. to think about what was there before hand makes no sense, because the dimensions did not exist for there to be any space.
betaben
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
681 Posts
August 28 2009 09:18 GMT
#13
On August 28 2009 18:00 BookTwo wrote:
it is still a theory.

Theory: A theory, in the general sense of the word, is an analytic structure designed to explain a set of observations.

Fact: Is a reality, truth

Information that has been objectively verified.

a concept whose truth can be proved; "scientific hypotheses are not facts"



can you tell us about the verification process that turns a theory into a fact?
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
August 28 2009 09:20 GMT
#14
all of these posts are worthless, i didn't learn anything about quantum mechanics!
bN`
Profile Joined May 2009
Slovenia504 Posts
August 28 2009 09:20 GMT
#15
The big bang theory assumes that the big bang is the moment when the fabric of space-time itself began, therefore it is pointless to debate what the universe is expanding into.
However, there are some specualtions that space-time itself expands faster than light travels, but I'm not up to speed on those views.
"It's just a ride." - Bill Hicks
betaben
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
681 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-28 09:31:57
August 28 2009 09:24 GMT
#16
On August 28 2009 18:20 bN` wrote:
The big bang theory assumes that the big bang is the moment when the fabric of space-time itself began, therefore it is pointless to debate what the universe is expanding into.
However, there are some specualtions that space-time itself expands faster than light travels, but I'm not up to speed on those views.

http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0310808
this is a bit informative on the faster than light thing. I think that it is true that the universe is expanding faster than the speed of light now - it's just that it is outside of our horizon, so we are not causally connected. which is ok. however, because there are large differences in distance and time for signals to get to us, and the different stretching in tat period, it means we can see areas now that were moving away from us faster than the speed of light at the moment the light was released towards us (i.e. a long time ago).
I think.
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
August 28 2009 09:25 GMT
#17
the expansion was definitely much much faster than the speed of light during the inflation period
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spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
August 28 2009 10:10 GMT
#18
Unless you studied physics you shouldn't even bother about where the universe is going. You are not going to live long enough to notice any effects the expansion of the universe might have.
Also, unless you really put a lot of time into it all you will acquire is false, lacking or misinterpreted information.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Mah Buckit!
Profile Joined April 2009
Finland474 Posts
August 28 2009 10:11 GMT
#19
Maybe what you think it is doing is expanding when it´s actually doing something else and you just think that it has to be expanding.

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.my space hasn´t changed a bit.
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keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
August 28 2009 10:31 GMT
#20
On August 28 2009 17:49 BookTwo wrote:
the big bang is a theory.


Fool spotted.
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