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justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-20 15:22:26
August 20 2009 14:36 GMT
#1
WHY hate do you mirror?

[image loading]

Poll: why do you hate ZVZ
(Vote): JD auto win
(Vote): Calm will win
(Vote): kwanrolled
(Vote): fake yellow =/= no.2 Z


I dunno why people hate ZVZ,me myself a Z player even wondered how ZVZ works.Only JD knows how ZVZ works ,no 1 knows more than what JD knows.Not even TL or other foreign pro zerg knows.

5 units that cause you a game,losing any1 of them = GG

drones
zerglings
overlords
muta
scourge

the build orders

12hatch>12pool>9overpool>9pool>4pool

speedlings > slowlings
+1 carapace > +1 attack
spores> 1 hatch

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lings on ramp > lings on ground



let the hype begin.......


*
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
August 20 2009 14:40 GMT
#2
I dislike watching (I like playing it) ZvZ because...


- it's hard to understand (imo, but thats just me I guess) so I can't see the pimp stuff as good as the other matchups

- few amount of units and viable strategys which makes the games very much the same every time
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
petzergling
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
538 Posts
August 20 2009 14:41 GMT
#3
fail embed is fail
i hate zvz because games are decided by 1 mistake or build order decision. I watch starcraft in respect for how hard the game is and how good the players are, not just OMG EXCITEMENT ZERGLIGNS

Mod Edit: Don't bold your entire post
saritenite
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Singapore1680 Posts
August 20 2009 14:42 GMT
#4
I don't hate ZvZ. I hate TvT because it's so frustratingly dependent on your dropships and tanks and every unit is so clunky and clumsy compared to zerg units.

ZvZ is fast paced and it is damn exciting to see Jaedong defend a 9pool with his drones perfectly and pull off crazy muta v scourge micro.

Besides, it's somehow easier to see unit colours in ZvZ than TvT. All you see is stuff blowing up and blue charon booster trails
Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
August 20 2009 14:43 GMT
#5
I agree with Zoler... It's harder to grasp zerg overall and since zvz is so low economy and whatnot the slick moves are more subtile
RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9947 Posts
August 20 2009 14:48 GMT
#6
way to put [MSL SPOILER] in the title after spoiling it.
Moderatorsometimes I get intimidated by the size of my right testicle
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
August 20 2009 14:50 GMT
#7
I... like zvz better than the other mirrors. In all of them you can get BO wins, but zvz is far more aggressive.

That said, I would rather not watch a mirror.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
o3.power91
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bahrain5288 Posts
August 20 2009 14:53 GMT
#8
On August 20 2009 23:48 RaGe wrote:
way to put [MSL SPOILER] in the title after spoiling it.

Just what I was thinking... I mean cmon...
Astray
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada59 Posts
August 20 2009 14:54 GMT
#9
Jaedong auto win. gg.
A stupid person is not a person lacking in knowledge; if that was true, everyone would be stupid. A stupid person has a closed mind, instead of an open one.
RoieTRS
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2569 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-20 15:27:58
August 20 2009 15:16 GMT
#10
Super cool title.

Also jd auto

edit: lame title change.
konadora, in Racenilatr's blog: "you need to stop thinking about starcraft or anything computer-related for that matter. It's becoming a bad addiction imo"
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
August 20 2009 15:41 GMT
#11
On August 20 2009 23:53 o3.power91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2009 23:48 RaGe wrote:
way to put [MSL SPOILER] in the title after spoiling it.

Just what I was thinking... I mean cmon...


haha
spoilers are so lame.
Sullifam
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8091 Posts
August 20 2009 16:16 GMT
#12
Because the series total will be shorter than any before it meaning that flash's 3-0 rape of stork in less than 30 mins wont be the best anymore
other than that the games go for like fuck all time and usally end in 3-0's or 3-1's so no epic 5th set, that and they do the same builds etc no variation in zvz means its hard to get excited for
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
AzureEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1360 Posts
August 20 2009 16:20 GMT
#13
On August 20 2009 23:42 sArite_nite wrote:
I don't hate ZvZ. I hate TvT because it's so frustratingly dependent on your dropships and tanks and every unit is so clunky and clumsy compared to zerg units.

ZvZ is fast paced and it is damn exciting to see Jaedong defend a 9pool with his drones perfectly and pull off crazy muta v scourge micro.

Besides, it's somehow easier to see unit colours in ZvZ than TvT. All you see is stuff blowing up and blue charon booster trails


This.

And I didn't vote because I didn't see the "TvT is so much more effing boring" option
Terrans who whine: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=107788
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
August 20 2009 16:41 GMT
#14
It's more fun to attentively watch a ZvZ. But I prefer a TvT when I'm "background watching".
For me any matchup is fine as long as the players are good though.
That said I am disappointed in a ZvZ finals mainly because of how short 99% of the games are.
No I'm never serious.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
August 20 2009 16:41 GMT
#15
I think ZvZ games are usually fine, but when it comes to finals, they are simply too short and involve too much luck to fulfil the expectations and anticipations.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
vx70GTOJudgexv
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3161 Posts
August 20 2009 16:56 GMT
#16
There's never a truly "epic" ZvZ like you have epic games in the other matchups. It's usually fairly clear-cut, and both finals will be over inside of 60 minutes when all is said and done. That's a disappointment.
(-_-) BW for ever. #1 Iris fan.
stroggos
Profile Joined February 2009
New Zealand1543 Posts
August 20 2009 17:12 GMT
#17
zvz is fine to watch, i think i like watch tvt more though. Anyway, i think a lot of people hype up jaedong way too much. I mean saying "no one understands zvz like him" is bullshit. jaedong has a 80% winrate because he has been good at picking build orders, and has really fucking good ling and muta micro, and a few times he has come up with really good tactics in games, but so have other zerg players like yarnc and calm.
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bN`
Profile Joined May 2009
Slovenia504 Posts
August 20 2009 17:46 GMT
#18
Because when I watch ZvZ I feel a giant hole opening inside me that gets bigger with each muta shot and each ling battle.

Meh, I guess it's because ZvZ truly is a matchup of finese and micro while for me big macro battles have larger entertainment value.
"It's just a ride." - Bill Hicks
NicolBolas
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1388 Posts
August 20 2009 19:05 GMT
#19
The only negative with Bo5 ZvZ that I see is that they tend to lack in mind-games. It's hard to break someone in a 10-minute match. Especially if your opponent suffered a build-order loss; that's not really something for them to doubt themselves for.
So you know, cats are interesting. They are kind of like girls. If they come up and talk to you, it's great. But if you try to talk to them, it doesn't always go so well. - Shigeru Miyamoto
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
August 20 2009 19:28 GMT
#20
I love ZvZ...
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
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