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[GOM] The Green Theme

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[GOM] The Green Theme

Text byDaigomi
December 18th, 2008 13:10 GMT
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With the first two quarterfinals decided, and the next one being decided Sunday, it's time to look at the results of the last week (check out Tadzio's amazing battle-reports for more in-depth coverage of the games), and what we can expect from the coming matches.



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Ro16 - Day 2

(T)Flash vs (P)Rock
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Flash > Rock
Flash > Rock


(P)Bisu vs (Z)HoeJJa
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Bisu > HoeJJa
Bisu > HoeJJa



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Ro16 - Day 3

(P)Kal vs (T)Mind
(P)free[gm] vs (P)Tempest

So far, the GSL has had some very interesting Ro16's of comparable, if not superior, quality to the other starleagues. This week that has gone up a notch, with two very important and interesting matchups.

The first game is between Kal and Mind. Kal has had a position on the power rank for the last few months now, but has had trouble getting far into individual leagues. Kal is quickly losing his position as a great up-and-comer, and is being replaced by new players who do perform in starleagues. However, it is undeniable that he is still a consistently strong player, especially in TvP.

Mind, on the other hand, has long since lost his reputation as a the next big thing. Having not achieved anything in the previous MSL or OSL, the GOM is Mind's last chance to make something out of this season. However, Mind has had some difficulties with TvP recently, winning only five of his last ten games, and dropping matches to less established players like Movie, Jaehoon, and SangHo.

This match is thus a very important match for both players. Both players need to reach a quarter-final, and possibly even a semi-final again; both players need to prove that they are still up there with the strongest players in the game. Unfortunately for Mind, the odds are stacked against him. The first two games will be played on Medusa and Neo-Requiem, two maps which have a terrible TvP balance (6-17 and 11-32 respectively), and only Sin Chupung-Ryeong offers a better chance for Mind, being 3-0. However, it is uncertain whether the Terran edge on Sin Chupung-Ryeong is due to the fixed balance of Chupung-Ryeong (which was 10-19 TvP), or simply the result of a lack of stats.

Looking at it then, Mind seems to be at danger of dropping out early again this GSL. However, if there is one Terran player that has the creativity and strategy to fight against the odds of a map, it is Mind. Mind stormed his way to an MSL win by beating sAviOr on old Blue Storm twice, a map with a similarly bad balance, and hopefully he can do the same thing here.

The second match of the day is will determind who plays against the winner of the first match in the quarter-finals. KTF's Neo-Reach, Tempest, is taking on the micro beast Free. Where the previous match of the day is characterized by two quality players who have had a bit of a rough time recently, this match is characterized by two players who have both done really well recently, trying to continue their streaks. Free blasted his way to the MSL semi-finals this season, losing only to the eventual winner in a tense 3-1 match, while Tempest came out of nowhere to make it to the Ro16 of the same MSL.

More recently, both Tempest and Free have taken down big Zerg players in GOM with Tempest beating defending champion Jaedong, and Free beating everyone's favourite, sAviOr. Tempest's problem, and also his greatest weapon, can be seen through these statistics however: he is untested in PvP. In the Clubday MSL, Tempest beat fantasy and Ruby to qualify for the Ro16 where he eventually lost to Firebathero. To reach the Ro16 in the GSL, Tempest has beaten XellOs and Jeadong. The only evidence we have of Tempest's PvP skill is from a few results in the Proleague, results which make it impossible to judge his strength. Tempest beat BeSt in the last PvP he played (a fantastic game), but before that he lost to Zues and Pure.

In contrast, Pretty's form is fairly straightforward. After a fairly long losing streak in the match-up, Free has recently beaten TT, Bisu (once in their Bo5, and once again in the proleague), and BeSt. Free is in good form in this match-up, and he is well practised. It will be difficult for Tempest to break him.

The game I'm looking forward to the most is the second game on Medusa. While the map has generally not delivered the most interesting PvPs, Tempest's game against BeSt on Medusa demonstrated how aggressive play on PvP may benefit the aggressor, while Pretty has shown that he isn't scared of playing a straight-up match either, especially as this allows his dragoon micro to shine. It will be fascinating to see which Protoss player can best exploit the position of the naturals on the map.



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Thanks to lilsusie we have some amazing new interviews this week. The first interview is with the little monster , Flash, followed by everyone's favourite ninja toss, Bisu; and finally we have an interview with one of the legends of Protoss, GARIMTO. Click on the button below to watch those.

No new players are open to questions, but I'll keep the link up in case it gets updated before the matches.

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An that's that for this week. I think we can all congratulate GOM on still delivering quality matches week after week. I loved watching GOM last season, and this season has improved on last season a ten-fold, with the potential for an absolutely amazing line-up for the final 8. If only we could have a few Zerg players...

Until next week!
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NathanSC
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States620 Posts
December 18 2008 20:46 GMT
#2
Thanks for the write-up! Really enjoyed the reading.
Pholon
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands6142 Posts
December 18 2008 21:01 GMT
#3
If I'm not mistaken though Mind pulled of some awesome ace games off late. I reckon he'll take at least one game vs Kal.
Moderator@TLPholon // "I need a third hand to facepalm right now"
xJacky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
China375 Posts
December 18 2008 21:01 GMT
#4
damn i thought iwas gnna be first xD
Love was supposed to be something women chased, not men. - Neil Strauss
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
December 18 2008 21:06 GMT
#5
i think we can erase the zerg icon from the draw
And all is illuminated.
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
December 18 2008 21:09 GMT
#6
FLASH FIGHTING!!!!
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
December 18 2008 21:32 GMT
#7
Ugh, I would like to see some Terrans in the next round but I think:

Best>Skyhigh, Bisu>Flash, pepe>Jangbi, and randomness in Mind<>Kal.

Despite the fact that Flash is still decent, Bisu has been walking all over everyone lately and the maps really don't help.
[SECRET FONT] "Dragoon bunker"
ilistis
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States828 Posts
December 18 2008 21:47 GMT
#8
Man Bisu vs Hoejja was so great. Sorry zerg, maybe next time.
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Fwmeh
Profile Joined April 2008
1286 Posts
December 18 2008 21:51 GMT
#9
On December 19 2008 06:32 Fontong wrote:
Ugh, I would like to see some Terrans in the next round but I think:

Best>Skyhigh, Bisu>Flash, pepe>Jangbi, and randomness in Mind<>Kal.

Despite the fact that Flash is still decent, Bisu has been walking all over everyone lately and the maps really don't help.

pepe>jangbi?

So you pick a guy with 25% TvP, 25% overall, basically never getting time on his team, over a guy wih 65.91% PvT, 59.02% overall, on really P favoured maps?

Why is it the everybody is disregarding Jangbi?
A parser for things is a function from strings to lists of pairs of things and strings
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21549 Posts
December 18 2008 22:02 GMT
#10
On December 19 2008 06:06 freelander wrote:
i think we can erase the zerg icon from the draw

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Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
December 18 2008 22:09 GMT
#11
zeus not zues, fix that. i hope hope hopeeee tempest makes it out alive, beating free 2-1, 2-0 is too much to ask for. i dont know, i want to see something out of tempest and yet, moreso times than not, he fucking fails his fans. prime example was that one PL game vs juni. he had the game, he so fucking had it but he just didnt control his units and the WORST decision making ive ever seen.
Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
December 18 2008 22:43 GMT
#12
pepe>Jangbi


o_o are you serious ? pepe has no chance versus Jangbi...
"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8553 Posts
December 18 2008 23:19 GMT
#13
On December 19 2008 06:51 Fwmeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2008 06:32 Fontong wrote:
Ugh, I would like to see some Terrans in the next round but I think:

Best>Skyhigh, Bisu>Flash, pepe>Jangbi, and randomness in Mind<>Kal.

Despite the fact that Flash is still decent, Bisu has been walking all over everyone lately and the maps really don't help.

pepe>jangbi?

So you pick a guy with 25% TvP, 25% overall, basically never getting time on his team, over a guy wih 65.91% PvT, 59.02% overall, on really P favoured maps?

Why is it the everybody is disregarding Jangbi?

No, he's just stupid, no one disregards Jangbi, that title belongs to fOrGG.
Jaedong
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14899 Posts
December 18 2008 23:27 GMT
#14
LOL bob
never_Nal
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica676 Posts
December 19 2008 00:03 GMT
#15
PEPE will rape JangBi because JangBi is incosistent and well poeple hate that XD.
BiSu vs Stork Final making Stork having another Second Place XD

Flash vs Tempest to see the ultimate TvP XD
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Not_Computer
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada2277 Posts
December 19 2008 01:04 GMT
#16
LOL good one bob
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Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
December 19 2008 01:31 GMT
#17
All of these 4 games were pure rapes. And I was really impressed by Bisu play and not that much unfortunately with Flash. Good that Rock played in a completely retarded way.

I hope that Tempest will advance over Free and maybe Mind will be able to eliminate Kal. The threat of all Protoss semis is very high again.. sigh...
nataziel
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Australia1455 Posts
December 19 2008 02:15 GMT
#18
I hope pepe wins his next match, I'm really rooting for him in this, he seems to be doing really well for being a relative unknown
u gotta sk8
Ozarugold
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
2716 Posts
December 19 2008 02:19 GMT
#19
The Bisu vs. Flash match is gonna make my head explode. Gogogo!
this is my quote.
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
December 19 2008 02:36 GMT
#20
Damn you Tempest for turning what would be an awesome matchup - free vs jaedong - into yet another PvP borefest.

Pepe vs Jangbi is going to be straight up boring rape. Something along the lines of Jangbi macroing up and just A-moves into Pepe's base.
Meh
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