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On January 14 2014 22:17 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2014 15:25 Coagulation wrote:
and to be fair it was like the most useless 5th anyway. we'd almost made a 4-man confirmed circle of players who weren't getting killed anytime soon. We have a very different understanding of useless.
You and BH together wasted 10 hours of time for one of the most capable player in this game (based purely on the time people devote to the game).
You were not only useless you were playing towards mafia's wincon.
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On January 14 2014 22:23 marvellosity wrote:
should've just listened to me in the first place when I said there was 0 chance they were mafia :/
The thing is i know you most likely don't read all the logs and check the timestamps and stuff (afaik you did not even read the ve-wos log). I do. 
And that's why those fuckers were anti-town.
Like i asked them to give you the logs. Why not just say "okay, we'll do that".
Instead BH comes with some bullshit "what if 'PM's to me". Fucking distraction.
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On January 14 2014 22:25 marvellosity wrote:
Because I already knew the correct answer with absolute certainty
It does not matter if you know, if they distract all the other capable townies you lose ~80% of scumhunting potential in the game.
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On January 14 2014 22:26 syllogism wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2014 22:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 14 2014 22:17 Hopeless1der wrote:On January 14 2014 15:25 Coagulation wrote:
and to be fair it was like the most useless 5th anyway. we'd almost made a 4-man confirmed circle of players who weren't getting killed anytime soon. We have a very different understanding of useless. You and BH together wasted 10 hours of time for one of the most capable player in this game (based purely on the time people devote to the game). You were not only useless you were playing towards mafia's wincon. That was entirely your fault
I strongly disagree. I don't think you even know what happened.
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Well whatever. I am not playing PM games because people do not know how to play PM games.
So this discussion is quite useless.
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The thing is he refused to give the logs to marv, who already knew bum was mason, for ~3 hours.
If i was in BH's situation as mafia, i would have faked convincing logs 100%. I am sure BH is capable of doing something like that as mafia.
The bottom line is not that you refused to give the logs to me. It's that there is no reason to start squirming and refuse to give the logs to a confirmed town (marv) in the first place for 3 hours and make somebullshit PM's to me about it.
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It's impossible to explain anything to you Hopeless. Fine, you just don't get it.
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Given the position mafia was in when Hopeless claimed and given that would mean bum/BH/Hopeless + someone as scum yes, i could see Blazinghand make that retarded play as mafia. I don't know if i should cry or laugh as i even considered that.
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On January 14 2014 22:47 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2014 22:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
It's impossible to explain anything to you Hopeless. Fine, you just don't get it. no rayn, you concocted this conspiracy theory when the simple answer was that we didnt want to paint a target on our backs. We didnt make ourselves a distraction. I tried to use my "confirmed" town status to get townreads from people in an attempt to assist marv choose his bodyguards (not that he needed it) because I thought that was a useful thing to do during the night phase when they were still available to be chosen. You took this action to be purely mafia motivated and proceed to shit up the thread and rage when we don't want to share everything with you.
The problem is there is zero townie reason to ask if i have discussed bodyguards with marv.
I have no idea what you were thinking but that was so scummy. I asked about it from 10 players and they all went "yeah, that dude who did it is so scum".
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On January 14 2014 22:50 Hopeless1der wrote:
yes, normally that is a scummy question, but I was practically confirmed town. When I asked you that, I expected you to run to marv and ask permission. You go full pants on head instead. That's not my fault.
No, you did go pants on head with BH. If you can't understand that then there is nothing to talk about.
The solid proof of it is ~10 players who thought you were mafia.
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For example suchdoge, yamato, Koshi.. Yes, besides me at least those people seriously considered them being mafia.
It's not my fault townies do so stupid stuff it makes absolutely zero sense.
And all this could be avoided if BH said "yeah don't worry, i'll PM the logs to marv", instead of saying this:
what if marv posts in the thread right now that i've pmed him something that's even better than those logs in terms of confirming me and hopeless town, and that thing is also something he can't post what it is? then would you believe me?
this is the most retarded thing i have seen a townie do EVER in a mafia game.
~10 players who did not know who asked. If you told them it was me or BH they'd have been like "hmm......okay maybe they're not masons, but thats not as scummy anymore. I guess keep an eye on them or something"
I specifically said Koshi, yamato and suchdoge because i told them it was you. So no, you went pants on head, not me.
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Yeah i am the worst player ever when "confirmed townies" are the most anti-town players in the game, do retarded shit when they can easily avoid it, then proceed on modkilling their mason group. On top of that they don't even try to play the game.
Fucking brilliant.
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On January 14 2014 23:21 Koshi wrote:
We lynched a scum, we had at least 5 confirmed towns D1, another 8 pretty high on the townlist.
Not only was scum KP reduced from start we had a doc save on N1 as well. confirming both as town.
There was like tops 8 possible scummers left and they would be figured out. Pretty sure.
Taking Rean's save into account @ D2 start i had every townie as "can't possibly be mafia" besides VE/gumshoe and i think VE could have easily proven he is town.
No way town was going to lose that game. Absolutely no way.
Oh right, chinstrap.
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Aquanim you were really good! The pressure on JAT was so good! <3
Also Slam was really good, probably the best play i have ever seen from him!
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On January 14 2014 23:28 marvellosity wrote:
yeah Aqua seems to be one of those slow starters who inevitably gets into his stride.
Kinda like jat (when he is town)
Aside from working with you i had really fun working with thrawn. We played good cop - bad cop and it basically confirmed Aquanim as town for us on D1. Next target was gonna be JAT but we never got that far.
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Has there ever been a Caller game that had an ending? Besides Mexican standoff.
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I never saw any dicks so your story fails.. 
10/10 still.
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Who are the current mayor candidates?
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On January 28 2014 03:15 kushm4sta wrote:
Rayn, people who bc might kill are bh, qp, mocsta
Ve wants to kill bh.
Alaka has claimed to everyone in pms
I'm still reading.
Slam and BH are town. So is Mocsta, talking with thrawn too, i think he is town too.
Ugh, early on i had some townread but i forgot that. I'll read BC & VE next.
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At this moment I am voting for whoever lynches QuantumPope or Tehpoofer.
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