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Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-02 06:05:48
July 29 2013 11:16 GMT
#1
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kr (Z)HyuN | se (P)viPro | fi (P)Welmu | no (Z)TargA
kr (P)MC | se (P)Bischu | ru (T)Happy | se (T)SjoW
kr (Z)DRG | fi (T)Naama | ru (P)TitaN | us (Z)goswser
kr (P)StarDust | kr (T)Pro7ecT | dk (P)BabyKnight | au (Z)PiG


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de (Z)TLO | se (P)RunA | es (Z)VortiX | dk (T)Bunny
kr (T)TaeJa | ru (Z)LiveZerg | fr (T)Dayshi | nl (P)Harstem
kr (P)San | ru (Z)Revolver | fi (P)elfi | de (P)Socke
kr (P)Alicia | pl (T)DieStar | es (T)LucifroN | se (Z)SortOf




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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-29 11:22:37
July 29 2013 11:16 GMT
#2
Poll: Who will advance from Group A?

HyuN & Welmu (46)
 
61%

HyuN & TargA (15)
 
20%

HyuN & viPro (9)
 
12%

viPro & Welmu (2)
 
3%

viPro & TargA (2)
 
3%

Welmu & TargA (2)
 
3%

76 total votes

Your vote: Who will advance from Group A?

(Vote): HyuN & viPro
(Vote): HyuN & Welmu
(Vote): HyuN & TargA
(Vote): viPro & Welmu
(Vote): viPro & TargA
(Vote): Welmu & TargA


Poll: Who will advance from Group B?

MC & Happy (53)
 
70%

MC & SjoW (9)
 
12%

MC & Bischu (5)
 
7%

Happy & SjoW (4)
 
5%

Bischu & Happy (3)
 
4%

Bischu & SjoW (2)
 
3%

76 total votes

Your vote: Who will advance from Group B?

(Vote): MC & Bischu
(Vote): MC & Happy
(Vote): MC & SjoW
(Vote): Bischu & Happy
(Vote): Bischu & SjoW
(Vote): Happy & SjoW


Poll: Who will advance from Group C?

DongRaeGu & goswser (35)
 
45%

DongRaeGu & TitaN (26)
 
34%

DongRaeGu & Naama (9)
 
12%

TitaN & goswser (4)
 
5%

Naama & TitaN (2)
 
3%

Naama & goswser (1)
 
1%

77 total votes

Your vote: Who will advance from Group C?

(Vote): DongRaeGu & Naama
(Vote): DongRaeGu & TitaN
(Vote): DongRaeGu & goswser
(Vote): Naama & TitaN
(Vote): Naama & goswser
(Vote): TitaN & goswser


Poll: Who will advance from Group D?

StarDust & BabyKnight (50)
 
64%

StarDust & Pro7ect (13)
 
17%

StarDust & PiG (11)
 
14%

BabyKnight & PiG (2)
 
3%

Pro7ect & BabyKnight (1)
 
1%

Pro7ect & PiG (1)
 
1%

78 total votes

Your vote: Who will advance from Group D?

(Vote): StarDust & Pro7ect
(Vote): StarDust & BabyKnight
(Vote): StarDust & PiG
(Vote): Pro7ect & BabyKnight
(Vote): Pro7ect & PiG
(Vote): BabyKnight & PiG



Poll: Who will advance from Group E?

TLO & VortiX (57)
 
66%

TLO & Bunny (13)
 
15%

VortiX & Bunny (10)
 
12%

TLO & RunA (3)
 
3%

RunA & VortiX (2)
 
2%

RunA & Bunny (1)
 
1%

86 total votes

Your vote: Who will advance from Group E?

(Vote): TLO & RunA
(Vote): TLO & VortiX
(Vote): TLO & Bunny
(Vote): RunA & VortiX
(Vote): RunA & Bunny
(Vote): VortiX & Bunny


Poll: Who will advance from Group F?

TaeJa & Dayshi (44)
 
54%

TaeJa & Harstem (25)
 
31%

TaeJa & LiveZerg (7)
 
9%

LiveZerg & Dayshi (2)
 
2%

Dayshi & Harstem (2)
 
2%

LiveZerg & Harstem (1)
 
1%

81 total votes

Your vote: Who will advance from Group F?

(Vote): TaeJa & LiveZerg
(Vote): TaeJa & Dayshi
(Vote): TaeJa & Harstem
(Vote): LiveZerg & Dayshi
(Vote): LiveZerg & Harstem
(Vote): Dayshi & Harstem


Poll: Who will advance from Group G?

San & elfi (41)
 
53%

San & Socke (20)
 
26%

elfi & Socke (11)
 
14%

San & Revolver (4)
 
5%

Revolver & Socke (1)
 
1%

Revolver & elfi (0)
 
0%

77 total votes

Your vote: Who will advance from Group G?

(Vote): San & Revolver
(Vote): San & elfi
(Vote): San & Socke
(Vote): Revolver & elfi
(Vote): Revolver & Socke
(Vote): elfi & Socke


Poll: Who will advance from Group H?

Alicia & LucifroN (64)
 
75%

DieStar & LucifroN (10)
 
12%

LucifroN & SortOf (6)
 
7%

Alicia & DieStar (3)
 
4%

Alicia & SortOf (1)
 
1%

DieStar & SortOf (1)
 
1%

85 total votes

Your vote: Who will advance from Group H?

(Vote): Alicia & DieStar
(Vote): Alicia & LucifroN
(Vote): Alicia & SortOf
(Vote): DieStar & LucifroN
(Vote): DieStar & SortOf
(Vote): LucifroN & SortOf


ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-31 03:18:24
July 29 2013 11:20 GMT
#3
FIRS—DANG IT

Well now that you actually made polls my post looks stupid -_-
jjakji fan
Nyrr
Profile Joined July 2012
Netherlands36 Posts
July 29 2013 11:20 GMT
#4
Just about to board the plane for this, gonna be great!
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
July 29 2013 12:56 GMT
#5
Wooh, sick! Thanks for the OPterown!
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
July 29 2013 14:10 GMT
#6
Welmu & elfi & Naama
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
July 29 2013 14:54 GMT
#7
Gogo DRG!! I like his group
#TheOneTrueDong
EdouarKiLL
Profile Joined October 2011
Russian Federation112 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 09:08:15
July 29 2013 15:08 GMT
#8
the future

group1

               Top 2      1st      2nd      3rd      4th    
------------------------------------------------------------
HyuN 96.22% 75.73% 20.49% 2.95% 0.83%
Welmu 72.39% 18.02% 54.36% 22.80% 4.81%
TargA 26.95% 5.37% 21.58% 49.42% 23.63%
viPro 4.44% 0.88% 3.56% 24.83% 70.72%
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.

group2

                Top 2      1st      2nd      3rd      4th    
-------------------------------------------------------------
Happy 78.85% 42.81% 36.04% 13.87% 7.28%
MC 77.89% 42.06% 35.83% 14.43% 7.68%
Bischu 24.35% 8.63% 15.73% 36.52% 39.12%
SjoW 18.91% 6.50% 12.40% 35.18% 45.92%
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.

group3

                   Top 2      1st      2nd      3rd      4th    
----------------------------------------------------------------
DongRaeGu 92.09% 68.10% 24.00% 5.21% 2.70%
goswser 50.98% 15.58% 35.39% 32.11% 16.91%
TitaN 43.83% 12.44% 31.39% 35.18% 20.99%
Naama 13.10% 3.88% 9.22% 27.50% 59.41%
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.

group4

                    Top 2      1st      2nd      3rd      4th    
-----------------------------------------------------------------
StarDust 90.52% 62.42% 28.11% 6.17% 3.31%
BabyKnight 60.19% 23.60% 36.59% 24.20% 15.62%
Pro7ecT 22.54% 7.37% 15.18% 31.84% 45.61%
PiG 26.74% 6.62% 20.13% 37.79% 35.46%
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.

group5

                Top 2      1st      2nd      3rd      4th    
-------------------------------------------------------------
TLO 71.43% 41.55% 29.88% 19.91% 8.66%
VortiX 65.40% 29.23% 36.17% 27.32% 7.28%
Bunny 54.95% 26.02% 28.93% 27.72% 17.33%
RunA 8.22% 3.20% 5.02% 25.04% 66.74%
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.

group6

                  Top 2      1st      2nd      3rd      4th    
---------------------------------------------------------------
TaeJa 92.88% 70.14% 22.75% 4.42% 2.70%
Dayshi 58.16% 15.32% 42.85% 27.52% 14.31%
Harstem 26.71% 8.48% 18.23% 33.00% 40.29%
LiveZerg 22.24% 6.06% 16.18% 35.06% 42.70%
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.

group7

                  Top 2      1st      2nd      3rd      4th    
---------------------------------------------------------------
San 94.07% 72.85% 21.22% 4.78% 1.15%
elfi 54.16% 14.77% 39.39% 35.57% 10.26%
Socke 48.70% 11.57% 37.12% 42.79% 8.51%
Revolver 3.07% 0.81% 2.26% 16.85% 80.07%
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.

group8

                  Top 2      1st      2nd      3rd      4th    
---------------------------------------------------------------
LucifroN 90.09% 56.54% 33.55% 7.25% 2.66%
Alicia 76.17% 34.73% 41.45% 16.53% 7.29%
SortOf 17.36% 4.43% 12.93% 34.81% 47.83%
DieStar 16.38% 4.30% 12.08% 41.41% 42.21%
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.
Trololo
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 31 2013 03:15 GMT
#9
bump, and updated yo!
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
July 31 2013 03:25 GMT
#10
Khaldor and Idra? That could make one mean cast.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32743 Posts
July 31 2013 03:28 GMT
#11
As long as HyuN can compensate for some poor showings recently, I'm happy.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-31 03:43:15
July 31 2013 03:42 GMT
#12
On July 31 2013 12:28 PhoenixVoid wrote:
As long as HyuN can compensate for some poor showings recently, I'm happy.

Runner up at MLG and winner of DH? I like his chances.

EDIT: Or did I miss the sarcasm?
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32743 Posts
July 31 2013 03:44 GMT
#13
On July 31 2013 12:42 AgentW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2013 12:28 PhoenixVoid wrote:
As long as HyuN can compensate for some poor showings recently, I'm happy.

Runner up at MLG and winner of DH? I like his chances.

Talking about a Ro8 finish in IEM Shanghai and a major upset in WCS NA. Not really going to discuss them in depth, but I didn't feel HyuN was playing at his best in those games, and afraid he might be following the trend since HyuN is a very momentum based player. He is definitely a favorite for the tournament, but nevertheless, he is vulnerable, especially in ZvP.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-31 03:48:38
July 31 2013 03:47 GMT
#14
On July 31 2013 12:44 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2013 12:42 AgentW wrote:
On July 31 2013 12:28 PhoenixVoid wrote:
As long as HyuN can compensate for some poor showings recently, I'm happy.

Runner up at MLG and winner of DH? I like his chances.

Talking about a Ro8 finish in IEM Shanghai and a major upset in WCS NA. Not really going to discuss them in depth, but I didn't feel HyuN was playing at his best in those games, and afraid he might be following the trend since HyuN is a very momentum based player. He is definitely a favorite for the tournament, but nevertheless, he is vulnerable, especially in ZvP.

Fair enough, it was one Bo3 in WCS NA so I'm not going to read too much into it, especially since his opponent has a wonky style of PvZ (though his insistence on roach-hydra was somewhat disturbing). As for IEM, I can't comment on it since I caught absolutely none of it.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
July 31 2013 05:47 GMT
#15
Idra casting, yes!
sk1nex
Profile Joined May 2010
Finland299 Posts
July 31 2013 07:35 GMT
#16
Kinda fucked up that they changed the original schedule from "Fri-Sat" to "Thu-Sat". Understandable yes if they faced challenges with the schedules, but I've got my travel plans and stuff booked so that I wont be around until friday, missing a day worth of SC2 and Dota.
"Im at Quakecon, Gonna win the Duel and TDM. Quake is easy" (c) 2GD | NTHNTHNTHNTHNTHNTH
dot89
Profile Joined February 2012
81 Posts
July 31 2013 07:48 GMT
#17
Someone please cast PiG games :D
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Snowbear
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1925 Posts
July 31 2013 07:55 GMT
#18
Any idea why forgg keeps on canceling?
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-31 17:23:10
July 31 2013 08:06 GMT
#19
On July 31 2013 16:48 dot89 wrote:
Someone please cast PiG games :D

According to the schedule his group will be on the main my stream!

@OPterown it appears that PiG's group and Taeja's got their time slots switched.
On July 31 2013 17:21 Ramiz1989 wrote:
I wonder why every guy out there mistypes his name. :D

shit!
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-31 08:24:22
July 31 2013 08:21 GMT
#20
On July 31 2013 17:06 y0su wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2013 16:48 dot89 wrote:
Someone please cast PiG games :D

Zioa should be casting his group (according to the schedule)

@OPertown it appears that PiG's group and Taeja's got their time slots switched.

I wonder why every guy out there mistypes his name. :D
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