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Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
June 18 2013 13:51 GMT
#10
YES
/in

I have been doing terrible, terrible things to satisfy my mafia urges.
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
June 21 2013 04:07 GMT
#59
Just in case you haven't already found this: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=WIFOM

For example, let's say that Player A is going to be lynched. He knows for sure that he will die. Right before he dies, he posts a giant case against Player X.
Player A flips as mafia.
What does this say about Player X? Is he more likely town or mafia now?

(someone else correct me if I'm off)
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
June 21 2013 04:27 GMT
#62
Yeah pretty much
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
June 24 2013 01:59 GMT
#128
hey guys
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
June 24 2013 02:04 GMT
#132
Why so scummy, Spicy?
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
June 24 2013 02:13 GMT
#134
On June 24 2013 11:02 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Hey everyone

Well, it's hard to decide whether the "hey" part or the "everyone" part is scummier. Really a toss up.

What could you possibly expect me to explain? You're taking this awfully seriously. Why did you take so long to reply if you were in the thread?
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
June 24 2013 02:25 GMT
#139
On June 24 2013 11:17 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 11:13 Chromatically wrote:
On June 24 2013 11:02 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Hey everyone

Well, it's hard to decide whether the "hey" part or the "everyone" part is scummier. Really a toss up.

What could you possibly expect me to explain? You're taking this awfully seriously. Why did you take so long to reply if you were in the thread?


Not taking it super seriously, just busting you back. I posted in the thread then went back to reddit. Checked the thread again after a few minutes. I'll be around tonight and early tomorrow morning.

And hey Xzavier.

Hmm.

In both other newbie games, you started out with a policy post about lurkers. Any particular reason why you changed for this game?
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
June 24 2013 02:27 GMT
#140
And is anyone else here that hasn't posted yet?
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
June 24 2013 02:30 GMT
#144
On June 24 2013 11:20 Xzavier wrote:
yup, im watching fullmetal alchemist then between episodes or every 5-10 min refreshing this.

Okay i lie, i have 2 windows open and im spamming F5 on this page.


Right now conversation is just picking up. Its smalltalk lol, then somebody is like: HEY FUCK YOU ##VOTE

then shit gets real

Why did you feel the need to say what you're doing right now?
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
June 24 2013 02:36 GMT
#147
Alright, I see. What do you think of Xzavier so far?
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
June 24 2013 02:43 GMT
#151
On June 24 2013 11:38 Xzavier wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 11:36 Chromatically wrote:
Alright, I see. What do you think of Xzavier so far?


hes the sexiest motherfucker alive. obviously. also town.

Of course, he's the second sexiest. What do you think about our other friend Spicy?
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
June 24 2013 02:47 GMT
#153
On June 24 2013 11:43 hzflank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 11:25 Chromatically wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 24 2013 11:17 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 11:13 Chromatically wrote:
On June 24 2013 11:02 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Hey everyone

Well, it's hard to decide whether the "hey" part or the "everyone" part is scummier. Really a toss up.

What could you possibly expect me to explain? You're taking this awfully seriously. Why did you take so long to reply if you were in the thread?


Not taking it super seriously, just busting you back. I posted in the thread then went back to reddit. Checked the thread again after a few minutes. I'll be around tonight and early tomorrow morning.

And hey Xzavier.

Hmm.

In both other newbie games, you started out with a policy post about lurkers. Any particular reason why you changed for this game?

I noticed that too.
This is Spicy's first post in his previous game, where he was town:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 10:47 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Hey everyone, I'll get the ball rolling. One of the most important things I've learned about day 1 is to make sure that town is active and posting USEFUL information and not just fluff. Lurkers do nothing to help town and are scummy. As such, I will and I encourage others, to pressure lurkers to post.

That is quite a lot more content than his first post in this thread:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 11:02 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Hey everyone

You don't buy his explanation?
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
June 24 2013 02:52 GMT
#157
I highly recommend that no one claim.

HS, if a nosy neighbor claims, then scum can either nk them (and thus waste the tracker's action), or treat it as a VT claim and have a reduced pool of possible blues to snipe.
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
June 24 2013 02:55 GMT
#159
Or a framer/scum tracker not carrying the hit can claim NN if they see that no one else has done so, and become "confirmed town".

HS, who's scum?
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
June 24 2013 03:14 GMT
#169
Stim, anything to say?
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
June 24 2013 03:17 GMT
#170
On June 24 2013 12:10 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
Alright, it appears that my plan has oversights that are unacceptable risks at this juncture. Thank you to the veteran players (or just simply better players) who found them so quickly. Personally, I'm more concerned about Chromatic's point (regarding letting mafia call their shot on blues) than the risk of a mafia-tracker claiming NN, but I will not protest if we continue the scum-hunt without regard for my posted plan.

To me, everyone who is posting one-liners looks spammy to me, but I think the 'everyone is scum until they convince me otherwise' mentality isn't the worst thing in the world. Spicy and Xzavier are on my radar for the fluff and nonsense at the beginning. Chromatically and FirmTofu seem the most town as they were very quick to point out what were (in their view) flaws in a plan to move forward that may have compromised the town.

What sort of "fluff and nonsense" do you see from them?
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
June 24 2013 04:00 GMT
#196
hz, do you have any scumreads?
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
June 24 2013 04:29 GMT
#210
On June 24 2013 13:12 Hurricane Sponge wrote:
Chromatically, do you have any scumreads?

Right now, I'm looking at Xzavier and hzflank. Both have posted a bit, but neither have been scumhunting. hz's recent post makes me feel a little better, but it did only come when I specifically asked him and I don't really agree with it. That doesn't necessarily make him scum though.

There are also some other small things that bother me, but I'll elaborate on those later.
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
June 24 2013 11:43 GMT
#270
On June 24 2013 13:28 Aquanim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 12:30 FirmTofu wrote:
Quoted Player List for reference:
On June 18 2013 14:22 geript wrote:
The Players

  1. Hurricane Sponge
  2. Onegu
  3. Chromatically
  4. Xzavier
  5. StiMaDDict
  6. FirmTofu
  7. fyfy
  8. hzflank
  9. Alakaslam
  10. Aquanim
  11. Spicydinosaur
  12. LoneMeow


We still have yet to hear from Onegu, fyfy, Alakaslam, and LoneMeow.

You wound me.

Regarding claims
I'm of the opinion that the Nosy Neighbour/Alpha 5 should claim now. This role is similar to a Miller in that it isn't useful for town at all, and could seriously backfire if they are watched/tracked/whatever by a townie. I don't see any downside to a Nosy Neighbour claiming, the worst case is that they play obvtown, get shot, and draw a shot away from actual town power roles.

The biggest reason a Nosy Neighbour should claim now is that it eliminates the possibility of a scum fake-claiming it later if he is caught shooting/using a PR on someone. If we establish that a Nosy Neighbour should claim now, anyone claiming it later is caught scum.

Obviously, scum can claim Nosy Neighbour so whoever claims it isn't confirmed town by any means.

No other power roles should claim, that would be daft. (However, scum should feel free to claim their roles.)

Regarding scum
Current scumread is Chromatically for two reasons.

1) I don't like the feel of his initial posts. Making troll-cases to get the game rolling is fine, I have no objection to that in as of itself, but there's a certain nit-picking quality to his posts that feels wrong to me.

Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 11:13 Chromatically wrote:
On June 24 2013 11:02 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Hey everyone

Well, it's hard to decide whether the "hey" part or the "everyone" part is scummier. Really a toss up.

What could you possibly expect me to explain? You're taking this awfully seriously. Why did you take so long to reply if you were in the thread?

Trying to read something into someone not posting for five minutes is ludicrous.

2) He's been doing a lot of asking other people for their reads while offering nothing even approaching one of his own.

##Vote: Chromatically

Aqua, are you scum? Both of these things are towntells.

Explain to me the scum motivation in getting discussion rolling early day 1, which was OBVIOUSLY the reason that I pressured Spicy (and it worked). Sorry, if you thought that it was "ludicrous", but it doesn't make me scum and you know it.

If you wanted to know about someone, you could just asked me. I'm not just going to randomly post reads if I'm not going to push for their lynch, but I'll definitely tell you what I think of someone or who my scumreads are. Why wouldn't you ask me for my scumreads if you wanted them?

Probably because that's not actually what you want at all. Someone else asked me for scumreads, and I posted mine right below your post, but you haven't reacted to that at all. Does this point still stand even after I've posted my scumreads? Or did your opinion not change at all for some reason?

You also said:
On June 24 2013 17:04 Aquanim wrote:

This doesn't feel to me like the town Chromatic which I played with in Newbie XXXIII.

Oh, this feels more like the scum Chromatic from XXXI?

I am very, very uncomfortable with you, Aqua, because you are usually very town from your first post. This game, you've done a lot of shitting up the thread with stuff about claims and NNs.
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
June 24 2013 15:28 GMT
#278
On June 24 2013 21:08 Aquanim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 20:43 Chromatically wrote:
On June 24 2013 13:28 Aquanim wrote:
On June 24 2013 12:30 FirmTofu wrote:
Quoted Player List for reference:
On June 18 2013 14:22 geript wrote:
The Players

  1. Hurricane Sponge
  2. Onegu
  3. Chromatically
  4. Xzavier
  5. StiMaDDict
  6. FirmTofu
  7. fyfy
  8. hzflank
  9. Alakaslam
  10. Aquanim
  11. Spicydinosaur
  12. LoneMeow


We still have yet to hear from Onegu, fyfy, Alakaslam, and LoneMeow.

You wound me.

Regarding claims
I'm of the opinion that the Nosy Neighbour/Alpha 5 should claim now. This role is similar to a Miller in that it isn't useful for town at all, and could seriously backfire if they are watched/tracked/whatever by a townie. I don't see any downside to a Nosy Neighbour claiming, the worst case is that they play obvtown, get shot, and draw a shot away from actual town power roles.

The biggest reason a Nosy Neighbour should claim now is that it eliminates the possibility of a scum fake-claiming it later if he is caught shooting/using a PR on someone. If we establish that a Nosy Neighbour should claim now, anyone claiming it later is caught scum.

Obviously, scum can claim Nosy Neighbour so whoever claims it isn't confirmed town by any means.

No other power roles should claim, that would be daft. (However, scum should feel free to claim their roles.)

Regarding scum
Current scumread is Chromatically for two reasons.

1) I don't like the feel of his initial posts. Making troll-cases to get the game rolling is fine, I have no objection to that in as of itself, but there's a certain nit-picking quality to his posts that feels wrong to me.

On June 24 2013 11:13 Chromatically wrote:
On June 24 2013 11:02 Spicydinosaur wrote:
Hey everyone

Well, it's hard to decide whether the "hey" part or the "everyone" part is scummier. Really a toss up.

What could you possibly expect me to explain? You're taking this awfully seriously. Why did you take so long to reply if you were in the thread?

Trying to read something into someone not posting for five minutes is ludicrous.

2) He's been doing a lot of asking other people for their reads while offering nothing even approaching one of his own.

##Vote: Chromatically

Aqua, are you scum? Both of these things are towntells.

Explain to me the scum motivation in getting discussion rolling early day 1, which was OBVIOUSLY the reason that I pressured Spicy (and it worked). Sorry, if you thought that it was "ludicrous", but it doesn't make me scum and you know it.

Oh, I don't have a problem with you starting the discussion - but the way in which you chose to do it made me feel uneasy. Calling somebody out for leaving for five minutes? Really? A very slight gut read was really all that ever boiled down to.

Show nested quote +

If you wanted to know about someone, you could just asked me. I'm not just going to randomly post reads if I'm not going to push for their lynch, but I'll definitely tell you what I think of someone or who my scumreads are. Why wouldn't you ask me for my scumreads if you wanted them?

Probably because that's not actually what you want at all. Someone else asked me for scumreads, and I posted mine right below your post, but you haven't reacted to that at all. Does this point still stand even after I've posted my scumreads? Or did your opinion not change at all for some reason?

Those reads were pretty weak, I'd like to see more from you.

Show nested quote +

You also said:
On June 24 2013 17:04 Aquanim wrote:

This doesn't feel to me like the town Chromatic which I played with in Newbie XXXIII.

Oh, this feels more like the scum Chromatic from XXXI?

No, it didn't feel like either of them, but I don't expect your scumgame to be the same as XXXI - you have learned a lot since then, I think.

Show nested quote +

I am very, very uncomfortable with you, Aqua, because you are usually very town from your first post. This game, you've done a lot of shitting up the thread with stuff about claims and NNs.

I kept getting asked about and called scum over the NN stuff, I would really have preferred for that not to drag out the way it did.

tl;dr I had uneasy feelings about you but I feel a lot better after reading this post. My vote was fundamentally to draw reactions from you (to clarify my read) and other people, and to start some meaningful discussion (I don't think anything is accomplished in a thread until somebody's thrown down a vote).

Go find some scum.
##Unvote

I did a reread, and I can see where you're coming from on most of these things. I still don't see how the Spicy thing is scummy, but it's not a big deal if it's just a "slight gut read".


I'm feeling better about Xzav now. He's basically been saying useless stuff, but it reads like a very "hyper" townie who's just saying everything who's just saying whatever comes to mind. He did say that he'd be changing up his posting style. That wouldn't be that hard to fake as scum however, so I'm counting on future contributions from him.

That all pretty much goes for Alakaslam too. I need to see some real stuff from both.

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