• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 06:54
CEST 12:54
KST 19:54
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out0RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-2212Weekly Cups (July 27-Aug 2): SHIN's big week0SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-69SC4ALL II announced - $10,000 prize pool, Dec 5-64
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out SC4ALL: II Talent Announcement! Protoss AoE skill expression August World Ranking: Clem climbs to #2 Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16)
Tourneys
RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) Tasteless Time Warp: SC Evo Showmatch (May 25)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 538 Media Blackout The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 537 Hostile Territory Mutation # 536 Railroad Switch
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL22 General Discussion Are you ready for ASL 22? NEW HYPE VIDEO How FlaSh Nearly Forfeited MSL Finals being late BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues 2v2v2v2 Tournament KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3 Escore Tournament - Season 3
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Any training maps people recommend? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread EVE Corporation Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Diablo 2 thread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Iain M Banks Says He Has Cancer And Months To Live European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread NBA General Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Are High-Level Gamers more A…
TrAiDoS
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
Hello guys!
LIN1s
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 3372 users

[Interview] Thorzain on Naniwa, life as a pro, etc

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
1 2 Next All
vrok
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden2541 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-19 15:07:41
April 19 2013 11:34 GMT
#1
"The Swedish Championships has become a derby between us"

Article and interview with Thorzain on life as a Starcraft pro, Swedish E-sports Championships - http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/E-Sport_SM_2012-2013/Finals - and the 'rival' Naniwa on Sweden's biggest news site Aftonbladet that I decided to translate for you guys (hype!).

[image loading]

Source: Aftonbladet


Pending Swedish Championships-player Thorzain has something to say about 'Naniwa'.
      But first: the bomb alarm.
      And the lasagna.


It's hard to think of 'Thorzain' without thinking of Kim Jong-un.
      Seoul glows of neon. Pyongyang is darkened. South Korea is one big cluster of gaming cafés with the world's fastest internet connections. In North Korea only parts of the elite are connected. Nowhere else is the contrast between distress and excess as sharp as on the Korean peninsula. Between the powerlessness and hopelessness of the northern side, and the ambitions and dreams of the southern, the distance is only four kilometers.
      The Swedish 'Starcraft' player Marcus 'Thorzain' Eklöf came home in March from his latest professional sojourn in South Korea. The North Korean leader Kim Jong-un - called 'The Great Successor' - had harshened his tone while Marcus was still in the country.
      - I woke up from a bomb alarm one morning. The time was barely 6 am. I was a bit disoriented. "Where am I? Oh, right, Korea." I was a bit scared at first, but no one else seemed to care.


"Not worried at all"

      Only three years ago North Korea bombed the island group of Yeonpyeong. Four people died. Despite threats from the north life in the south goes on as usual.
      - No, I never heard anyone mention anything about the conflict. You don't feel any worry at all. I wouldn't be too worried to go back, says 'Thorzain'.
      Marcus is one of biggest stars in Swedish E-sports. It's what you become after having played in the best Korean league there is. It's what you become after winning Dreamhack Open on the home field in Stockholm. The Koreans gave him a nickname, "Spoon Terran", for his methodical and thoughtful play. "Like killing someone with a spoon." I suggest to Marcus that he's one of the players where you can most clearly tell how his personality colors his playstyle. Not because he's capable of killing someone with a spoon, but because he appears wise, thoughtful and patient.
      - Yeah, that's probably accurate. I usually plan things ahead. But my way of playing probably has a lot to do with fear too. Sometimes I don't know if I'm ahead or if I'm behind. Or: I'm not sure how far ahead I am. Then it's easier to choose not to take risks.


"Would like to become a psychiatrist"

      Recently, Marcus' teammate in Evil Geniuses, the french player Ilyes 'Stephano' Satouri, announced that he was going to quit playing 'Starcraft', at only 20 years of age. And when you talk to Marcus, who is now 22, you can sense the ambivalence that often shows itself in interviews with other 'Starcraft' players. Those who understand that maybe they should start thinking about a life after E-sports.
      - My shape right now? A six or a seven. I could have been playing more than I have lately. I'm a bit rusty. I've been busy with the SATs. I would like to become a psychiatrist. I've always been very interested in psychology.
      After having been in South Korea multiple times, at one point staying and training in the legendary Slayers house, Marcus went back once more late last year. Excited for another three month stay he'd bought a Korean dictionary and a textbook to practice the language. But his energy ran low.
      - It feels good to be back home in Sweden again. I shouldn't have been in Korea as long as I was. You get tired of it after a while. All the food starts tasting the same. They're of course different dishes. But after a while you realize that it actually tastes the same.
      He got lasagna when he came home to his parents in Stockholm.


E-sports, a display window for big businesses

      In its haste to be taken seriously the E-sports industry is often looking to paint a flashy picture of young stars in a modern world. Often competing over having the largest prize pool and which players have the biggest sponsors. E-sports is an ultra commercial display window for business logos. But when the lights go out, the cameras turn off and the set is dismantled, the E-sports stars, often merely teenagers, reenter everyday life. They go back home to mom and dad and eat lasagna.
      When Marcus Eklöf was competing at Dreamhack Open in Stockholm last year he used public transportation to get to the event. Once there he entered the bubble of the world of E-sports and became the mighty 'Thorzain'. The fans held up signs with his name. He sensationally won the whole tournament by defeating the mighty Korean Choi 'Polt' Seong Hoon in the finals. In the emotinal high of victory he raised both his arms towards the sky. In the left hand holding a bottle of champagne. He can't quite remember how he got home afterwards, but it was most definitely not in a limousine.
      - I believe I used public transportation then as well.


"Quite rude in real life"

      - You have to separate all that from everyday life. Like an off switch almost. When you arrive at the competitions you're prepared for all that, you're prepared for the photographers. You're a superstar on the 'Starcraft' stage. But as soon as you get off you're Marcus Eklöf again. Even if you occasionally get recognized on the streets.

Do you feel like you adopt different personalities?
      - No, I'd say I'm probably the same person. I guess there are some that try to alter their personalities. Some are quite rude in real life.

Are you thinking of someone in particular?
      - No, I don't want to mention any names.
Now Marcus is leaving for Gothenburg to compete in the sixth Swedish Championship qualifications to reach the playoffs at Dreamhack Summer. He's the reigning Swedish champion and his participation has increased in intensity because of what happened a month ago. When his countryman Johan 'Naniwa' Lucchesi during the qualifications in Malmö was asked who is the 'King of the north' - a title both 'Naniwa' and 'Thorzain' has shared between them - Lucchesi attacked Eklöf:
      - I don't want to be compared to 'Thorzain', I think I'm much better than him. The only reason I'm playing the Swedish Championships is to beat him.


"Laughable"

You can almost hear how Marcus sighs when you recite the statement.
      - The last time we met I won. His best results have exceeded mine. But we're both very up and down when it comes to results. I don't know what he has against me because I haven't done anything to him except like... playing 'Starcraft'. I've never said anything bad about him.

But don't you become upset by hearing that kind of statement?
      - ...I'm used to it. He's been doing this for a while. I almost think it's just laughable.

Who is Sweden's best player right now?
      - It's probably 'Naniwa'. But if we'd both be in top shape then I'm not sure.

What does the Swedish Championships mean to you?
      - It means a lot now that 'Naniwa' has been making a big deal out of it. He almost made it into a Swedish derby between him and me.

It has become a competition about who is the 'King of the north'.
      - Yes, exactly.



Here's also the small Swedish Championships fact blurb and tournament schedule listed after the article:

Marcus' tough road towards a new Swedish Championship gold.

It's of course not a given that Marcus will succeed to defend his title from last year. It's not even a certainty that he'll make the playoffs. In Gothenburg on Saturday he'll be pitted against accomplished players such as Kim 'Sase' Hammar, Jeffrey 'Sjow' Brusi and Joacim 'Runa' Persson. Should Marcus lose in the qualifications in Gothenburg he'll have two more chances, in Norrköping in May and Jönköping in June.

Should he make the playoffs the stage is set for a thrilling struggle between him and Johan 'Naniwa' Lucchesi. 'Naniwa' outclassed all competition when he won the qualifications in Malmö in March.

Schedule for the qualification tournament on Saturday, Apr 20 2:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00):

14:00 GMT (+00:00) Live broadcast begins of the sixth qualification tournament of the Swedish Championships @ aftonbladet.se/spela

14:30 GMT (+00:00) Fifa 13 finals.

16:00 GMT (+00:00) Super Street Fighter IV: Arcade Edition finals.

16:30 GMT (+00:00) Counter-Strike: Global Offensive finals.

19:00 GMT (+00:00) Starcraft II semifinal 1.

20:00 GMT (+00:00) Starcraft II semifinal 2.

21:00 GMT (+00:00) Starcraft II finals.
"Starcraft 2 very easy game" - White-Ra
Longtimer
Profile Joined April 2013
490 Posts
April 19 2013 11:42 GMT
#2
So mannered. Thorzain is really putting the sex into Starcraft.
ZooG
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden618 Posts
April 19 2013 11:46 GMT
#3
Intresting read. Thorzain is a really good e-sports ambassador too i like his calm style
"Rain, also a name for a meteorological condition" -Artosis
Irrational_Animal
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1059 Posts
April 19 2013 11:47 GMT
#4
So does him learning for the SATs mean that he will start studying after the summer (same as Stephano)? I hope to see some last strong months from him then.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 19 2013 11:47 GMT
#5
i don't think of kim jong un when someone says thorzain, lol
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
vrok
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden2541 Posts
April 19 2013 11:50 GMT
#6
On April 19 2013 20:47 opterown wrote:
i don't think of kim jong un when someone says thorzain, lol

I don't think many people do, haha. It's just Aftonbladet being sensationalist. It's what they do best.
"Starcraft 2 very easy game" - White-Ra
Chewie
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark708 Posts
April 19 2013 11:54 GMT
#7
On April 19 2013 20:47 opterown wrote:
i don't think of kim jong un when someone says thorzain, lol

me neither wtf?
Teoyaomqui
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden326 Posts
April 19 2013 11:55 GMT
#8
Good read, I'll root for Thorzain.

He's the raining Swedish champion


Reigning.
vrok
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden2541 Posts
April 19 2013 11:56 GMT
#9
On April 19 2013 20:55 Teoyaomqui wrote:
Good read, I'll root for Thorzain.

Show nested quote +
He's the raining Swedish champion


Reigning.

Thanks!
"Starcraft 2 very easy game" - White-Ra
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
April 19 2013 11:59 GMT
#10
any liquidpedia link to that championship?
yo
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
April 19 2013 12:03 GMT
#11
Well done. Come on thorzain, give us some nerd-chills again!!
*@boesthius' FF7 nostalgia stream bomb* "we should work on a 'Final Progamer' fangame»whitera can be a protagonist---lastlie: "we save world and then defense it"
igay
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia1178 Posts
April 19 2013 12:06 GMT
#12
what a well written presented piece
MVP <3 MKP <3 DRG <3
vrok
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden2541 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-19 12:58:44
April 19 2013 12:20 GMT
#13
Added the fact blurb and qualifications tournament schedule listed after the article. Also added complete list of players already qualified for the playoffs.

On April 19 2013 20:59 Killmouse wrote:
any liquidpedia link to that championship?

Not that I know of or can find. Sorry. Someone will have to get on that. Even their own site in Swedish is very useless in this regard.

Edit: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/E-Sport_SM_2012-2013/Finals
"Starcraft 2 very easy game" - White-Ra
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
April 19 2013 12:21 GMT
#14
On April 19 2013 21:06 igay wrote:
what a well written presented piece


Yes, very unlike Aftonbladet. Except the part about Kim Jong-un and North Korea; what the fuck is that about?
AdministratorBreak the chains
Pjorren
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden777 Posts
April 19 2013 12:47 GMT
#15
On April 19 2013 21:20 vrok wrote:
Added the fact blurb and qualifications tournament schedule listed after the article. Also added complete list of players already qualified for the playoffs.

Show nested quote +
On April 19 2013 20:59 Killmouse wrote:
any liquidpedia link to that championship?

Not that I know of or can find. Sorry. Someone will have to get on that. Even their own site in Swedish is very useless in this regard.

Here is a good link http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/E-Sport_SM_2012-2013/Finals

I hope it will be ThorZaIN vs Naniwa in the finals this year!
KaiserKieran
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States615 Posts
April 19 2013 12:48 GMT
#16
Wait so Stephano retired?
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
April 19 2013 12:49 GMT
#17
On April 19 2013 21:48 KaiserKieran wrote:
Wait so Stephano retired?

Wondering the same thing but I thought he said he'd retire once his current contract is up.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-19 12:50:12
April 19 2013 12:50 GMT
#18
It was actually very well written, far more so than anything I've ever read in Swedish and most of what I've read in english.


(For esports, that is)
Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
April 19 2013 12:54 GMT
#19
On April 19 2013 20:47 opterown wrote:
i don't think of kim jong un when someone says thorzain, lol


I don't either, not to mention I've never seen anyone else make that connection before now.. >_>

It's kind of an insult to be compared to the ruler of north korea.
If you are not supporting K-Pop you are hurting E-Sports.
mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
April 19 2013 12:56 GMT
#20
Well written for sure. I really like korean food. The only food that all blends together and tastes the same for me is american food. University has made me hate american food completely.
Long live the Boss Toss!
1 2 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Sparkling Tuna Cup
10:00
Weekly #141
CranKy Ducklings76
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko223
SHIN 74
Classic 17
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 3175
Bisu 1377
firebathero 921
Jaedong 732
Hyuk 455
Mini 386
Pusan 283
Soulkey 217
EffOrt 197
Killer 181
[ Show more ]
Larva 174
Stork 162
Light 137
Dewaltoss 105
JulyZerg 92
hero 70
Barracks 66
Free 66
Snow 42
sorry 33
soO 27
Sharp 24
Rush 18
Terrorterran 10
Dota 2
XBOCT1305
League of Legends
JimRising 322
Counter-Strike
olofmeister2078
x6flipin314
byalli88
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King135
Other Games
singsing1934
crisheroes275
Sick156
Livibee59
QueenE40
B2W.Neo35
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 8
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 76
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP8
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2294
Other Games
• WagamamaTV158
Upcoming Events
PiG Sty Festival
1h 6m
PiGosaur Cup
13h 6m
Replay Cast
22h 6m
Kung Fu Cup
1d
Replay Cast
1d 13h
The PondCast
1d 23h
Replay Cast
2 days
Escore
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Rush vs Hm
Bisu vs Shuttle
WardiTV Weekly
6 days
The Patches Monday
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Sharp vs Shinee
Action vs Shine
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-08-10
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
Acropolis #5
RSL Revival: Season 6
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W7
CSLAN 4
ASL Season 22
Escore Tournament S3: W8
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
META DYMY #4
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Thunderpick World Champ.
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.