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grush57

Korea (South)2582 Posts

October 09 2012 19:54 GMT

#10

/in
<3
I've been progressively getting better, no problem :D

grush57

Korea (South)2582 Posts

October 09 2012 20:12 GMT

#12

On October 10 2012 05:04 Blazinghand wrote:

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I promise I won't push a D1 policy lynch on you

Last game I thought I did decent but the ending was just bad.

grush57

Korea (South)2582 Posts

October 09 2012 20:31 GMT

#14

On October 10 2012 05:22 TheChronicler wrote:
/in

HMM.
Who is this adventurer?

grush57

Korea (South)2582 Posts

October 09 2012 20:43 GMT

#16

Grush sat in the room waiting for the game to begin. An adventurer walked in. Grush wondered who this adventurer is... Such as the clock ticks, so do the hummingbirds hum. Alas, another day another tale. Grush waited patiently.

grush57

Korea (South)2582 Posts

October 09 2012 21:14 GMT

#18

:D, BC SO GOSU

grush57

Korea (South)2582 Posts

October 11 2012 01:11 GMT

#20

grush57

Korea (South)2582 Posts

October 11 2012 19:34 GMT

#34

On October 11 2012 16:47 Shady Sands wrote:
/in

sometimes i troll, but i'll be stupid always

o well

Its ok you make good blogs

grush57

Korea (South)2582 Posts

October 11 2012 20:20 GMT

#35

On October 12 2012 02:12 kushm4sta wrote:
nah getting into a good school is useless. It's a scam. They pretend that the school is better so that they can charge more.
0.27 gpa that is some pro slacking

Is the more clubs you join and the more well-rounded you have a better chance to go to college crap true?

grush57

Korea (South)2582 Posts

October 12 2012 23:44 GMT

#51

Kurumi giving zerg players a chance I see.

grush57

Korea (South)2582 Posts

October 13 2012 05:00 GMT

#53

On October 13 2012 13:07 Release wrote:
Shit. I still have PSAT although oddly enough, i'm done with SAT.

/in

Oh shit I have missed mafia.
I only recognize Grush from my newbie games...

, I only played one newbie game and I don't remember you? I played 3 normal games before but my play is bad so I decided to do a newbie game. It was frustrating.
Edit: Yeah I just checked you were not in my game,I guess you obsed, awesome dt claim ending.

grush57

Korea (South)2582 Posts

October 13 2012 19:30 GMT

#55

Wait were you the dude who kept tunneling me? I swore his name was Risen. I checked the game and I didn't see Risen on the player list so I thought you weren't in it.

Edit: I guess you were. That game was hilarious lol. I just knew he was scum, and him counter claiming dt just sealed town victory.

grush57

Korea (South)2582 Posts

October 13 2012 20:35 GMT

#57

On October 14 2012 05:22 Blazinghand wrote:

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It was a foolish risk to take, since you could have been counter claimed by a town cop. I'll leave this bit from my post-game analysis here.

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On June 17 2012 15:52 Blazinghand wrote:

On June 17 2012 14:01 wherebugsgo wrote:
So when I was coaching I actually talked to Lazer specifically regarding the claims and the possibilities. It was the most straightforward for a DT in that situation.

I don't at all agree with grush's play in this game, and from a results-oriented perspective it looks good. However, it is INCREDIBLY dangerous in any normal game for a VT to claim DT. Imagine grush fake claimed and he was wrong about his target. That's an instant town loss. Imagine the mafia don't counterclaim and the real DT does; the DT is outted and the mafia can kill both players with ease (one with lynch and the other with a shot) If the DT is lynched, the fakeclaimer almost certainly gets lynched the next day.

With that said, grush got incredibly lucky. Scum panicked a bit (if I were in scum's position I would've simply denied the claim and tried to get grush lynched. I only really consider claiming at lylo). Blues get lynched all the time without counterclaims, and fake blues are even easier to lynch because their claims are flimsy. Someone who pushed and pressured grush to explain his claim could probably have ended up exposing him and getting an easy lynch. This takes confidence, though, and is much easier said than done.

I'd like to second what WBG mentioned here about VT fakeclaims. Typically gambitting with a fakeclaim, especially in a semi-open mini like this, is a great way to get mislynched. The fact that scum freaked out and counterclaimed doesn't mean the gambit was good, it just meaned it worked.

If, for example, the real Cop counterclaimed (since a 1-1 trade isn't so bad if they both get lynched, he thinks), it's entirely possible town could have killed the Cop, THEN KILLED THE VT. Could you imagine trying to say "oh, no, it was a fakeclaim you guys" after the Cop claimed, or after he got lynched for his counterclaim and flipped cop? Nobody would buy it. Scum would say "nice try, scum", and so would town.

I guess the best analogy here is that Grush walked into a casino, went up to a roulette table, put it all on 0, and won 20 grand. Yeah, he won 20 grand. It doesn't mean the strat was good, though. All it means is he got lucky.

Yeah that's why I said when he counter claimed I knew it was town victory(there was no way Vivax was blue that game). A good detective would wait a bit which is what lazermonkey did, so in the end everything went well, so yeah it was a bit risky.

grush57

Korea (South)2582 Posts

October 13 2012 20:40 GMT

#59

On October 14 2012 05:38 Blazinghand wrote:
"everything went well", while technically true, does not convey how poor a decision it was.

Well it was risky, and a risk I needed to take in that game.

grush57

Korea (South)2582 Posts

October 13 2012 20:58 GMT

#61

On October 12 2012 12:02 VayeshMoru wrote:
/in

HOLY SHIT YES.

On April 14 2012 10:37 VayeshMoru wrote:
After hearing Ace talk, Vayesh has decided he must be black. That is a good thing.

##vote ace

grush57

Korea (South)2582 Posts

October 14 2012 00:29 GMT

#67

Well if two people are applying to get a job, if one went to harvard and one went to insert local community college here, the person who went to harvard would get it over the other guy.