• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 10:36
CET 16:36
KST 00:36
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book11Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info7herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14
Community News
Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win2Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker6PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar)9Weekly Cups (Jan 26-Feb 1): herO, Clem, ByuN, Classic win2RSL Season 4 announced for March-April8
StarCraft 2
General
Terran Scanner Sweep How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Season 4 announced for March-April PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) WardiTV Mondays $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ? [A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 512 Overclocked The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth Mutation # 510 Safety Violation
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Potential Map Candidates BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Gypsy to Korea BW General Discussion Liquipedia.net NEEDS editors for Brood War
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Strategy
Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Diablo 2 thread ZeroSpace Megathread EVE Corporation Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Sex and weight loss YouTube Thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Play, Watch, Drink: Esports …
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2365 users

Zileas

Forum Index > BW General
Post a Reply
1 2 Next All
Uwgnoh
Profile Joined March 2003
China15 Posts
April 23 2003 19:17 GMT
#1
Regarding the recent posting on Greatest BW Players ever, where does Zileas rank? He was an earlier generation, but a champion nonetheless.
Hades
Profile Joined January 2003
Canada927 Posts
April 23 2003 19:20 GMT
#2
I'd put him in top 10 old school, along with Agent911, Kain, etc...

People like Maynard, Grrr..., and Soso were better. Back then air maps were a lot more popular than they are now-a-days which was a big reason for his success.
I just finished eating my vegetables, now where do I throw the wheelchairs?
G-$$$
Profile Joined March 2003
United States186 Posts
April 23 2003 19:25 GMT
#3
zileas was awesome, but you have to remember that reavers owned so bad back then. There was no cooldown on drops, so he just dropped and popped. Pretty unstoppable.
dekaN
Profile Joined February 2003
104 Posts
April 23 2003 19:26 GMT
#4
I think he started the whole reaver-popping thing. I first read about popping in a report in his games.
DCs-PsIOnIC
Profile Joined February 2003
Canada125 Posts
April 23 2003 19:43 GMT
#5
Zileas was god.
Hi
RaGe_banned
Profile Joined March 2003
United States538 Posts
April 23 2003 19:45 GMT
#6
Agent911 DOES NOT diserve to be in that list because Agent got known by abusing imbalnces(Hydra rush ZvP, bunker rush in every matchup, reavers) and countless other imbalances=[
Beyonder = The One Thousand Three Hundred and Thirty Seven King
TheSlowHand
Profile Joined January 2003
Korea (South)177 Posts
April 23 2003 20:01 GMT
#7
Blizzard had to add cool time because of Zileas' "shooting shuttle". I recall he was more of a strategist (like Garimto) than a player.
Less Filling! Great Taste !!!
SuperCod
Profile Joined March 2003
United States337 Posts
April 23 2003 20:09 GMT
#8
Zileas would sure suck nowadays
I bet a C4 WGTour user could rape him easily

but back then, hey, he got blizzard to patch something for him =]
I have made good decisions in the past. I have made good decisions in the future. - G.W. Bush
Quiksilver
Profile Joined December 2002
United States424 Posts
April 23 2003 20:28 GMT
#9
You can only effectively compare somone in the past to their contemporaries, how much they dominated their competition etc..
Live.
Casper...
Profile Joined October 2002
Liberia4948 Posts
April 23 2003 20:31 GMT
#10
he is generally considered to have been lesser than grrrr..., but at least equal or greater then the other champions of his era (honest, everlast, soso, etc).

he is certainly better then those who never won a major championship (pillars, kain, incinerate, etc.)
JAM THE FUCKER!
ocoini
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
648 Posts
April 23 2003 21:12 GMT
#11
I played a cupple games vs everlast..he was pretty damn good..
(couldent even beat him on Jacobs ladder tvz -__-
Street Vendor Crack Down Princess-Cop!
linternet
Profile Joined October 2002
United States112 Posts
April 23 2003 22:03 GMT
#12
You could say he had a very re(a)vered starcraft career.

Worst joke ever!!!
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28738 Posts
April 23 2003 22:30 GMT
#13
^_^

zileas changed broodwar more than anyone else not considerably better than him, imo.

he was also a huge reason why people started making constant peons, and also why people realized killing peons was really effective.
Moderator
RaGe_banned
Profile Joined March 2003
United States538 Posts
April 23 2003 22:50 GMT
#14
On April 24 2003 05:31 Casper... wrote:
he is generally considered to have been lesser than grrrr..., but at least equal or greater then the other champions of his era (honest, everlast, soso, etc).

he is certainly better then those who never won a major championship (pillars, kain, incinerate, etc.)


Pillars has won Battletop, WCGC USA, and went to korea for pro gaming for about 3-4 months.
Beyonder = The One Thousand Three Hundred and Thirty Seven King
ilnp
Profile Joined December 2002
Iceland1330 Posts
April 23 2003 22:59 GMT
#15
pillars is a special nigga
8===D~~
Casper...
Profile Joined October 2002
Liberia4948 Posts
April 23 2003 23:46 GMT
#16
i do not deny that pillars is a great player.
JAM THE FUCKER!
RaGe_banned
Profile Joined March 2003
United States538 Posts
April 23 2003 23:51 GMT
#17
according to your post you did.
Beyonder = The One Thousand Three Hundred and Thirty Seven King
PheaRSome
Profile Joined December 2002
United States584 Posts
April 24 2003 00:30 GMT
#18
omg you got him! he's just trying to fool us in to thinking he believes pillars was a great player!
Napoleic
Profile Joined February 2003
Canada356 Posts
April 24 2003 01:39 GMT
#19
Hard to say with Zileas because he only won the beta championship, and I don't think there were really any other good players in that tourney. I don't recall seeing Grrr, or everlast, or Soso in that competition. Larry The Weird was I think, who was a korean pro, but that was really before the game took off in Korea. Remember that Zileas faced Agent911 in the finals, and what has Agent911 ever done beside that?
Whenever you think you know something, remember this: No one even really knows if the sun will rise tomorrow. Knowledge is just a degree of belief.
After)Eight(
Profile Joined March 2003
Germany502 Posts
April 24 2003 02:20 GMT
#20
where can one get zelias replays? any possibilities?

-THX
i hate quote
1 2 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 9h 25m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 17737
Calm 4210
Bisu 2678
Jaedong 1261
Horang2 1198
Larva 792
Stork 475
BeSt 473
Soma 390
Mini 358
[ Show more ]
actioN 314
ggaemo 307
EffOrt 281
Light 279
firebathero 264
IntoTheRainbow 242
GuemChi 236
Hyuk 224
Snow 223
Mong 133
Rush 129
Sharp 117
hero 114
Sea.KH 59
Killer 55
PianO 44
Aegong 44
Barracks 38
sorry 34
ToSsGirL 27
JulyZerg 26
Movie 26
yabsab 24
Free 24
Shine 19
Hm[arnc] 16
910 15
Terrorterran 13
soO 12
HiyA 12
zelot 9
NaDa 9
Dota 2
Gorgc3628
qojqva2438
Dendi629
syndereN101
Other Games
hiko887
crisheroes294
Sick237
Pyrionflax167
ArmadaUGS118
oskar94
Mew2King59
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV15
StarCraft: Brood War
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 9
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 140
• iHatsuTV 14
• poizon28 4
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 17
• iopq 10
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV290
League of Legends
• TFBlade767
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Monday
9h 25m
Replay Cast
17h 25m
LiuLi Cup
19h 25m
Clem vs Rogue
SHIN vs Cyan
Replay Cast
1d 8h
The PondCast
1d 18h
KCM Race Survival
1d 18h
LiuLi Cup
1d 19h
Scarlett vs TriGGeR
ByuN vs herO
Replay Cast
2 days
Online Event
2 days
LiuLi Cup
2 days
Serral vs Zoun
Cure vs Classic
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
LiuLi Cup
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
LiuLi Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
LiuLi Cup
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-02-09
Rongyi Cup S3
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W8
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
WardiTV Winter 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.