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[KSL] Grand Finals :: StarTale vs Prime

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Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38198 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-03 15:46:57
June 02 2012 19:59 GMT
#1
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Welcome to the (Wiki)Korean StarCraft II League Daily! The KSL is sponsored by own3d.tv and can be viewed as an European event series that features the Korean Pro-Teams. The KSL is a series of daily matches between top Korean players from the teams Prime, NSHoSeo, MVP, ZeNEX, StarTale, Incredible Miracle, FXOpen and Fnatic.

Streams for KSL can be found here: KSL Streams

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Today's Line-Up! Sunday, 3rd June! 14:00 GMT (+00:00):

(Wiki)KSL Team League - Season 1

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(Wiki)Startale                                                                                    (Wiki)Prime

History:

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Starters:

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(T)Bomber vs (T)MarineKing

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Polls and Hype:

+ Show Spoiler [Polls and Hype] +

+ Show Spoiler [Polls] +

Poll: Who will win?

Prime (123)
 
55%

StarTale (99)
 
45%

222 total votes

Your vote: Who will win?

(Vote): StarTale
(Vote): Prime


Poll: Who do you want to see most from Prime?

MarineKing (44)
 
51%

GhostKing (15)
 
17%

Creator (14)
 
16%

Maru (7)
 
8%

BBoongBBoong (5)
 
6%

AnnYeong (1)
 
1%

Other (1)
 
1%

87 total votes

Your vote: Who do you want to see most from Prime?

(Vote): Maru
(Vote): MarineKing
(Vote): GhostKing
(Vote): Creator
(Vote): BBoongBBoong
(Vote): AnnYeong
(Vote): Other


Poll: Who do you want to see most from StarTale?

PartinG (22)
 
28%

Squirtle (17)
 
22%

Bomber (16)
 
21%

July (11)
 
14%

Virus (6)
 
8%

Curious (3)
 
4%

Other (3)
 
4%

78 total votes

Your vote: Who do you want to see most from StarTale?

(Vote): Squirtle
(Vote): PartinG
(Vote): July
(Vote): Curious
(Vote): Bomber
(Vote): Virus
(Vote): Other


Poll: Most valuable player?

MarineKing (37)
 
49%

Squirtle (13)
 
17%

PartinG (7)
 
9%

Creator (7)
 
9%

Bomber (2)
 
3%

Curious (2)
 
3%

July (2)
 
3%

Byun (2)
 
3%

Other (2)
 
3%

Maru (1)
 
1%

BBoongBBoong (1)
 
1%

76 total votes

Your vote: Most valuable player?

(Vote): Squirtle
(Vote): MarineKing
(Vote): PartinG
(Vote): Maru
(Vote): Bomber
(Vote): BBoongBBoong
(Vote): Curious
(Vote): Creator
(Vote): July
(Vote): Byun
(Vote): Other



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On June 03 2012 06:03 Fusilero wrote:
I've decided to do my own write up, I'll take a look at some of the potential match ups that may happen
(T)Byun vs (T)Bomber aka "I WANT A REPEAT" - ST_Bomber
+ Show Spoiler +
Ah yes this is probably a match that bomber would love to play, in what can only be described as the worst BO5 in bomber's career he was so close to finally making medal position in code S, he dominated the byunjwa (Or from my perspective of the byunjwa being the most perfect and flawless player ever, the byunjwa letting bomber get his hopes up) only to embarrassingly defeat himself not once, not twice, but 3 times in a row to somehow lose the series, after the byunjwa pressed E and waited for bomber to throw his army away bomber proceeded to make marauder tank vs marine tank (Bomber believes that real men shouldn't scout ever) and finally fell apart vs blue flame drops (That was more down to byun's great harass though) but now with this oppurtunity in such an important match bomber may get his rematch given that despite his struggles ST still sees him as their ace while byun seems to back up creator as the ace for prime the chance of the facing off in an important match (Perhaps even the ace match) in this series seems like so how would it go down? Hard to say, one the one hand byun tore through nada and tree before falling in a close series to thestc who is one of the best TvTers in Korea when he doesn't go full retard, they did have their rematch at IPL4 which byun won 2-1 which suggests that his puppy earning win vs bomber back in july was not a fluke but I'm now certain that bomber is the sea[shield] of SC2, he plays great but while he blows in solo leagues is great at team leagues therefore if the two met I predict
Bomber > The byunjwa

(T)MarineKing vs (P)PartinG aka "RAAAAGGGEEEEEEE" -The startale fanbase
+ Show Spoiler +
Do I really need to write anything? After a long string of epic clashes marineking and parting met up in the GSTL finals where we all know what happened, since then well while startale and prime seem to be throwing shit at eachother all the time the two despite being the ones involved in the controversy have remained surprisingly neutral with MKP even doing his best to patch up relations between the two teams while parting seems to hold no ill feelings towards prime. Again the two are likely to meet due to the importance of their roles within the team, both have proven to be unclutch which indicates a mid series duel between the two, in the event of that it really will come down to 2 factors:
1. What map is it
2. Will parting go full retard with one base robo all ins?
In the event of 2 happening then marineking easy, if not then things become harder to judge, on a map like cloud kingdom, entombed valley or tal darim altar parting will find himself at home able to comfortably play defensive 3base before going berserk with chargelot/HT but on maps which don't like that such as crossfire things become more troublesome for parting who despite from how good he is at the lategame I've noted he has issues beyond that, once psi storm is finished it's pretty much gg no re for the terran but before that parting has shown remarkable weakness vs all ins and timings intended to hit before storm which is where marineking's best shot lies, ultimately though ST aren't stupid and they know that full well, I don't think parting will just come out, they have squirtle and ace to deal with their own prime terran counterparts in the form of byun and maru, when MKP comes out parting will probably come out afterwards, I have no doubts that ST will get parting onto one of these macro maps so I'll give the prediction to parting
Parting > Marineking

(T)Maru vs (Z)Curious aka The obvious start
+ Show Spoiler +
These two have enjoyed their positions as starters for their respective teams, it's pretty easy to see why both are versatile and can pull out every kind of play and execute it well, both also represent the oddest corners of their race, curious is part of the zerg group who loves to get aggressive and then drone which has in general worked out very well, maru on the other hand is a madman (Or should it be madboy?) he loves banshees, hellions drops and all that slightly off stuff especially his favouring of 2 banshee + raven pressure. But all of this analysis is irrelevant because I have to look at them now, curious has just made code S mostly by holding 2rax, maru has just been doing 2rax all ins in TvZ right now, he was pretty good at TvZ for a while so why he's suddenly turned into bitbybit in the MU is a mystery to us all, ah well it works out for now but curious is immune to terran pressure and cheeses so I'll call it for startale again.
Curious > Maru

Can't be bothered to write any more, maybe I'll do something for creator, squirtle, ace and B4 when I can think of players they'd likely play.



+ Show Spoiler [Parting hype] +

On June 03 2012 15:12 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2012 14:23 Waxangel wrote:
PartinG is the law, he shall bring justice.

now someone bring the judge dredd photoshop ;o


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Results:

+ Show Spoiler [set one] +
(T)Bomber < Antiga Shipyard > (T)MarineKing


+ Show Spoiler [set two] +
(Z)Curious < Crux Metropolis > (T)MarineKing


+ Show Spoiler [set three] +
(P)PartinG < Crux Daybreak > (T)MarineKing


+ Show Spoiler [set four] +
(P)StarTaleAce < ESV ClouD Kingdom > (T)MarineKing


+ Show Spoiler [set five] +
(T)Hack < Crux Bel'shir Beach Winter > (T)MarineKing


+ Show Spoiler [set six] +
(P)Squirtle < Crossfire SE > (T)MarineKing



+ Show Spoiler [set seven] +



+ Show Spoiler [set eight] +



+ Show Spoiler [set nine] +


+ Show Spoiler [set ten] +


+ Show Spoiler [set eleven] +



Overall results:

+ Show Spoiler [overall] +
(T)Bomber < Antiga Shipyard > (T)MarineKing

(Z)Curious < Crux Metropolis > (T)MarineKing

(P)PartinG < Crux Daybreak > (T)MarineKing

(P)StarTaleAce < ESV ClouD Kingdom > (T)MarineKing

(T)Hack < Crux Bel'shir Beach Winter > (T)MarineKing

(P)Squirtle < Crossfire SE > (T)MarineKing

Prime wins 6-0!




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Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38198 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-02 20:36:22
June 02 2012 19:59 GMT
#2
How they got here:

(Wiki)Prime placed fourth in the round robin stages with wins over StarTale, Fnatic, MVP, and NSHoseo. They dropped series to FXOpen, IM, and Zenex during the regular season, but avenged all three in their run through the playoffs to make the grand finals.

(Wiki)StarTale meanwhile started the group stage slowly being on the receiving end of a Maru all kill against Prime, but bounced back in impressive fashion as they proceeded to not drop another series on their way to first place in the groups and a guaranteed spot in the finals.

Prime has had to go through a lot more games to make it to this stage, but it would be foolish to think that either team will be anything other than fully prepared to clash once more.

Best Performers:

(Wiki)Prime's best performer in the KSL has unquestionably been (T)MaruPrime who netted himself a spectacular 13 kills across the regular season and a further six more during the playoffs. He's proven to be a very stable lead off player for the Prime team and his tendency to multikill usually gets them off to a great start.

(P)Creator has clearly established himself as the teams closer, picking up 8 kills during the regular season and adding on 4 more during the playoffs, where in each of the 3 series he was called upon he sealed the victory for his team.

Support typically comes from (T)MarineKing, (Z)BBoongBBoong, and (T)Byun, all of whom have shown the ability to produce decent kill streaks on their day.

(Wiki)StarTale have been rather less dependent on big performances from singular players, with their wins being fairly evenly spread across the team as a whole. (Z)Curious and (T)Hack have both led the way reliably picking up regular wins. Their win count is matched by (Z)July, who only played in one series the whole tournament so far but then proceeded to all kill IM, essentially making him a perfect 6-0.

Reliable wins have also come from (P)AcE, (Z)KingKong, and (T)Bomber. While not necessarily the most consistent they've usually picked up a couple of games between them whenever they've been called upon.

Big name players (P)Squirtle and (P)PartinG have rarely been called upon, partially I presume due to GSL and foreign tournament commitments. Squirtle didn't have the best of times in his rare appearances, but Parting proved his class towards the end of the season.

Line ups:

Expect (Wiki)Prime to field their absolute A team roster, with a brutal combination of BboongBboong, Marineking, Ghostking, Maru, Creator, and whichever player they feel can get a snipe if necessary. Given his successes lately it seems likely that Maru will be the lead off player again, with MKP left free to play in the middle of the roster and Creator called upon to close things out.

(Wiki)StarTale will probably be much the same with Squirtle, Parting, Bomber, and Curious all there to be called upon. ST could open up any number of ways, given recent form I'd have considered Ace but with 2 more high class Protoss in reserve they may wish to allow themselves a bit more options racially. Like Prime do with MKP it seems likely we'll see Bomber play somewhere in the middle of the line up, with one of the 2 monster Protoss waiting in reserve to try close things out.
SC2ShoWTimE
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany722 Posts
June 02 2012 20:04 GMT
#3
i hope startale crushes prime this time. looking forward to this
Progamer
Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
June 02 2012 20:10 GMT
#4
Deja vu.
ilovegroov | Blizzards mapmaker(s?) suck ass | #1 Protoss hater
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38198 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-02 20:37:38
June 02 2012 20:35 GMT
#5
Poll: Who will win?

Prime (123)
 
55%

StarTale (99)
 
45%

222 total votes

Your vote: Who will win?

(Vote): StarTale
(Vote): Prime






Mini preview up too, apologies if there's typos, tired TT
Neelia
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany599 Posts
June 02 2012 20:41 GMT
#6
Hope Prime owns them again :3
MrMercuG
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands2389 Posts
June 02 2012 20:49 GMT
#7
Prime let's go!!
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
June 02 2012 21:03 GMT
#8
I've decided to do my own write up, I'll take a look at some of the potential match ups that may happen
(T)Byun vs (T)Bomber aka "I WANT A REPEAT" - ST_Bomber
+ Show Spoiler +
Ah yes this is probably a match that bomber would love to play, in what can only be described as the worst BO5 in bomber's career he was so close to finally making medal position in code S, he dominated the byunjwa (Or from my perspective of the byunjwa being the most perfect and flawless player ever, the byunjwa letting bomber get his hopes up) only to embarrassingly defeat himself not once, not twice, but 3 times in a row to somehow lose the series, after the byunjwa pressed E and waited for bomber to throw his army away bomber proceeded to make marauder tank vs marine tank (Bomber believes that real men shouldn't scout ever) and finally fell apart vs blue flame drops (That was more down to byun's great harass though) but now with this oppurtunity in such an important match bomber may get his rematch given that despite his struggles ST still sees him as their ace while byun seems to back up creator as the ace for prime the chance of the facing off in an important match (Perhaps even the ace match) in this series seems like so how would it go down? Hard to say, one the one hand byun tore through nada and tree before falling in a close series to thestc who is one of the best TvTers in Korea when he doesn't go full retard, they did have their rematch at IPL4 which byun won 2-1 which suggests that his puppy earning win vs bomber back in july was not a fluke but I'm now certain that bomber is the sea[shield] of SC2, he plays great but while he blows in solo leagues is great at team leagues therefore if the two met I predict
Bomber > The byunjwa

(T)MarineKing vs (P)PartinG aka "RAAAAGGGEEEEEEE" -The startale fanbase
+ Show Spoiler +
Do I really need to write anything? After a long string of epic clashes marineking and parting met up in the GSTL finals where we all know what happened, since then well while startale and prime seem to be throwing shit at eachother all the time the two despite being the ones involved in the controversy have remained surprisingly neutral with MKP even doing his best to patch up relations between the two teams while parting seems to hold no ill feelings towards prime. Again the two are likely to meet due to the importance of their roles within the team, both have proven to be unclutch which indicates a mid series duel between the two, in the event of that it really will come down to 2 factors:
1. What map is it
2. Will parting go full retard with one base robo all ins?
In the event of 2 happening then marineking easy, if not then things become harder to judge, on a map like cloud kingdom, entombed valley or tal darim altar parting will find himself at home able to comfortably play defensive 3base before going berserk with chargelot/HT but on maps which don't like that such as crossfire things become more troublesome for parting who despite from how good he is at the lategame I've noted he has issues beyond that, once psi storm is finished it's pretty much gg no re for the terran but before that parting has shown remarkable weakness vs all ins and timings intended to hit before storm which is where marineking's best shot lies, ultimately though ST aren't stupid and they know that full well, I don't think parting will just come out, they have squirtle and ace to deal with their own prime terran counterparts in the form of byun and maru, when MKP comes out parting will probably come out afterwards, I have no doubts that ST will get parting onto one of these macro maps so I'll give the prediction to parting
Parting > Marineking

(T)Maru vs (Z)Curious aka The obvious start
+ Show Spoiler +
These two have enjoyed their positions as starters for their respective teams, it's pretty easy to see why both are versatile and can pull out every kind of play and execute it well, both also represent the oddest corners of their race, curious is part of the zerg group who loves to get aggressive and then drone which has in general worked out very well, maru on the other hand is a madman (Or should it be madboy?) he loves banshees, hellions drops and all that slightly off stuff especially his favouring of 2 banshee + raven pressure. But all of this analysis is irrelevant because I have to look at them now, curious has just made code S mostly by holding 2rax, maru has just been doing 2rax all ins in TvZ right now, he was pretty good at TvZ for a while so why he's suddenly turned into bitbybit in the MU is a mystery to us all, ah well it works out for now but curious is immune to terran pressure and cheeses so I'll call it for startale again.
Curious > Maru

Can't be bothered to write any more, maybe I'll do something for creator, squirtle, ace and B4 when I can think of players they'd likely play.
Glorious SEA doto
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
June 02 2012 21:07 GMT
#9
Reeemaaaaaaattchhhhhh!

And a BO11 to make it even better. Can't wait, I'm totally rooting for StarTale here. It's time for revenge!
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
June 02 2012 23:10 GMT
#10
PRIMMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEEE
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
ZeroSC2
Profile Joined May 2012
Korea (South)668 Posts
June 02 2012 23:12 GMT
#11
PartinG to go Revenge mode, and boss it up against MKP.

Squirtle, Ace and Bomber all in good shape

GOGOGOGO STAAAAAAARRRRRTAAAAAAALEEEEEEEEEES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Flash
Chunhyang
Profile Joined December 2011
Bangladesh1389 Posts
June 03 2012 02:07 GMT
#12
Please embarrass Startale.
If you could reason with haters, there would be no haters. YGTMYFT
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
June 03 2012 02:47 GMT
#13
Prime needs to kick startales ass to humble them a bit and make them stop whining about GSTL finals.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
June 03 2012 03:16 GMT
#14
On May 28 2012 14:03 Waxangel wrote:
If you believe in justice, cheer for startale!

lets go startale!

bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
June 03 2012 05:10 GMT
#15
LET's GO PRIME!!
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
June 03 2012 05:13 GMT
#16
gogo startale!
ModeratorFlash Sea Action Snow Midas | TheStC Ret Tyler MC | RIP 우정호
Rampager
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia1007 Posts
June 03 2012 05:14 GMT
#17
This is going to be tight. Looking forward to it!
MaNaVoId
Profile Joined February 2012
492 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-03 05:19:40
June 03 2012 05:18 GMT
#18
Justice will prevail!
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
June 03 2012 05:20 GMT
#19
Get revenge ST!
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Shinespark
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile843 Posts
June 03 2012 05:23 GMT
#20
Is StarTale allowed to play Naniwa or Sase?
"I, for one, welcome our new Korean overlords."
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