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On June 07 2012 17:18 Inflicted_ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2012 13:38 AxionSteel wrote:On June 06 2012 12:53 asdfOu wrote:On June 05 2012 02:59 MONXY FIST wrote:On June 05 2012 02:39 FabledIntegral wrote:On June 05 2012 01:49 noddy wrote:On June 04 2012 10:25 opterown wrote:On June 04 2012 10:22 Dodgin wrote:On June 04 2012 10:19 vnlegend wrote:
wow this is still going on. If you're that desperate for a win then of course, Parting won that one time. MKP still crushes Startale with ease whenever he wants to. I agree MKP destroyed them today and that's all that matters, the GSTL finals doesn't mean anything anymore it was like 2 months ago. If Prime fans want a reason to say their team is better just point to today instead of then and no one is going to argue with you. it wasn't really a teaaammm game though to be honest. lol. Other members on Prime have shown just as well that they're better than pretty much anyone on ST. It's strange people are saying ST is the strongest team. I'd take MKP/Maru/Creator/BBBB over Bomber/Curious/Parting/Squirtle any day. I'd say Creator is weaker than both Parting and Squirtle, while BBBB isn't that great in the first place. Prime's strength is in it'd trio of Terrans, MKP, Byun, and Maru. Creator is still pretty good don't get me wrong, but I'd say Parting and Squirtle top him easily. I'm conflicted because MKP is my favorite player, I like Byun, Maru is showing so much potential, and Creator is averagely solid, but beyond that I don't think Prime's lineup is anymore deep than that. BBBB is super gimmicky imo, kinda JulyZerg esque, and while he can make it work he doesn't have that "solid" feeling to me, especially in the lategame. While Startale has Parting and Squirtle, with Parting having sick PvT and Squirtle being arguably the best Protoss out there atm (I would say so, although I think Hero's PvZ is better). Curious is more solid than BBBB, Bomber is solid (although arguably inferior to the trio of Prime's Terrans), Virus and Hack are also quite solid, although neither are top either. I think I just see Startale with a really strong overall deep lineup, while Prime has a few star players that carry the weight of the rest of the team. Maybe it's just me though, anyone else have similar opinions? I think your not giving BBBB enough credit i think both him and Curious are around the same level and that is borderline code S player. However i agree with you that Parting and Squirtle are better then Creator and overall Startale has a deeper lineup. Curious borderline code S? hes top 3 zerg without question Top 3 without question? I most certainly question that statement lol. Depends on whether you consider Symbol as one of the best, or just a good player on a lucky streak (which Curious once was). NesTea and DongRaeGu have both proven multiple times that they're probably the two best Zergs, so it comes down to Leenock and Curious fighting for the 3rd spot. They both have extremely similar styles (and both dominate ZvT, but suck at ZvP), but I would say that Leenock has been proven to be more consistent with his results.
I'd put symbol above curious for sure, I mean even though he won code A, he hasn't done that much else, there's no way that guy can say he's a top 3 Zerg for sure, that's all I was arguing. Nestea will never be the same player again IMO, but he is still above curious, drg is the best and there's Leenock as well. Violet has been raking in the results lately, beating top notch players left and right, then there's players like LosirA who seems to Be in form again, Life and Stephano who may or may not be better, but certainly have a case to be.
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France12935 Posts
Amazing performance by MarineKing :D.
I'm happy to see that there are so many Prime (dunno if many are just "winning team joiners/fans" or not but this is still cool) fans, even though they just won so it's normal there are more Prime fans posting.
By the way, very nice and informative write-up you made there Asha', despite hating MKP again.
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Holy sheeeeeettttt................ MKP with the ULTRA / RAMPAGE / Double Triple Kill!
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United Kingdom14464 Posts
Why does this keep getting bumped, everytime I see it I get said again T__T
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On June 07 2012 17:30 ZeroSC2 wrote:
Top 5 Zergs
1) DongRaeGu
2) SymboL
3) Stephano
4) NesTea
5) Leenock
Life, viOlet, LosirA, Curious, ByuL, Moon, BBongBBong and a couple more are pretty close to Leenock, and any of them could easily make a breakthrough in the next couple of weeks.
Nestea, doesn't deserve number 4. He really is simply a mediocre Korean Zerg now (meaning globally he's still quite good, but in comparison to his Kr counter parts he doesn't deserve top 5.)
Your also over hyping Byul and Moon's team leagues performances. GSTL muti-kills doesn't guarantee you individual league success. example see Seed.
Violet is an odd one, had he done better at Redbull gaming thing i would agree. Probably even top 5.
Curious and B4 are in the same boat. I don't really see them as high potential players. Just nice solid Zergs.
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On June 09 2012 04:34 Cyanocyst wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2012 17:30 ZeroSC2 wrote:
Top 5 Zergs
1) DongRaeGu
2) SymboL
3) Stephano
4) NesTea
5) Leenock
Life, viOlet, LosirA, Curious, ByuL, Moon, BBongBBong and a couple more are pretty close to Leenock, and any of them could easily make a breakthrough in the next couple of weeks. Nestea, doesn't deserve number 4. He really is simply a mediocre Korean Zerg now (meaning globally he's still quite good, but in comparison to his Kr counter parts he doesn't deserve top 5.) Your also over hyping Byul and Moon's team leagues performances. GSTL muti-kills doesn't guarantee you individual league success. example see Seed. Violet is an odd one, had he done better at Redbull gaming thing i would agree. Probably even top 5. Curious and B4 are in the same boat. I don't really see them as high potential players. Just nice solid Zergs.
Curious won Code A without losing a single game, and has been called S-class player by korean pros themselves for a long time already, and he currently doesnt lose zvt unless hes up against MKP. Hes from another world altogether than B4, and doesnt rely on early game abuse to beat good ppl...
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On June 09 2012 04:34 Cyanocyst wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2012 17:30 ZeroSC2 wrote:
Top 5 Zergs
1) DongRaeGu
2) SymboL
3) Stephano
4) NesTea
5) Leenock
Life, viOlet, LosirA, Curious, ByuL, Moon, BBongBBong and a couple more are pretty close to Leenock, and any of them could easily make a breakthrough in the next couple of weeks. Nestea, doesn't deserve number 4. He really is simply a mediocre Korean Zerg now (meaning globally he's still quite good, but in comparison to his Kr counter parts he doesn't deserve top 5.) Your also over hyping Byul and Moon's team leagues performances. GSTL muti-kills doesn't guarantee you individual league success. example see Seed. Violet is an odd one, had he done better at Redbull gaming thing i would agree. Probably even top 5. Curious and B4 are in the same boat. I don't really see them as high potential players. Just nice solid Zergs.
How can you say NesTea is just a mediocre Zerg when he's the only person who has been consistently in Code S? Some of his games look shaky, but in most when he's playing well he's easily #1 or #2.
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France12935 Posts
On June 09 2012 05:25 Dissonance23 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2012 04:34 Cyanocyst wrote:On June 07 2012 17:30 ZeroSC2 wrote:
Top 5 Zergs
1) DongRaeGu
2) SymboL
3) Stephano
4) NesTea
5) Leenock
Life, viOlet, LosirA, Curious, ByuL, Moon, BBongBBong and a couple more are pretty close to Leenock, and any of them could easily make a breakthrough in the next couple of weeks. Nestea, doesn't deserve number 4. He really is simply a mediocre Korean Zerg now (meaning globally he's still quite good, but in comparison to his Kr counter parts he doesn't deserve top 5.) Your also over hyping Byul and Moon's team leagues performances. GSTL muti-kills doesn't guarantee you individual league success. example see Seed. Violet is an odd one, had he done better at Redbull gaming thing i would agree. Probably even top 5. Curious and B4 are in the same boat. I don't really see them as high potential players. Just nice solid Zergs. How can you say NesTea is just a mediocre Zerg when he's the only person who has been consistently in Code S? Some of his games look shaky, but in most when he's playing well he's easily #1 or #2.
Maybe because of this? http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-korean&type=players&id=29&part=games&vs=all&league=standard&map=any&from_year=2012&from_month=2&from_day=6&to_year=2012&to_month=6&to_day=6&action=Update
Although the word mediocre is not the right one, "average" would be more suited.
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