On June 04 2012 10:19 vnlegend wrote: wow this is still going on. If you're that desperate for a win then of course, Parting won that one time. MKP still crushes Startale with ease whenever he wants to.
I agree MKP destroyed them today and that's all that matters, the GSTL finals doesn't mean anything anymore it was like 2 months ago. If Prime fans want a reason to say their team is better just point to today instead of then and no one is going to argue with you.
it wasn't really a teaaammm game though to be honest. lol.
Other members on Prime have shown just as well that they're better than pretty much anyone on ST. It's strange people are saying ST is the strongest team. I'd take MKP/Maru/Creator/BBBB over Bomber/Curious/Parting/Squirtle any day.
I'd say Creator is weaker than both Parting and Squirtle, while BBBB isn't that great in the first place. Prime's strength is in it'd trio of Terrans, MKP, Byun, and Maru. Creator is still pretty good don't get me wrong, but I'd say Parting and Squirtle top him easily.
I'm conflicted because MKP is my favorite player, I like Byun, Maru is showing so much potential, and Creator is averagely solid, but beyond that I don't think Prime's lineup is anymore deep than that. BBBB is super gimmicky imo, kinda JulyZerg esque, and while he can make it work he doesn't have that "solid" feeling to me, especially in the lategame.
While Startale has Parting and Squirtle, with Parting having sick PvT and Squirtle being arguably the best Protoss out there atm (I would say so, although I think Hero's PvZ is better). Curious is more solid than BBBB, Bomber is solid (although arguably inferior to the trio of Prime's Terrans), Virus and Hack are also quite solid, although neither are top either. I think I just see Startale with a really strong overall deep lineup, while Prime has a few star players that carry the weight of the rest of the team.
Maybe it's just me though, anyone else have similar opinions?
I think your not giving BBBB enough credit i think both him and Curious are around the same level and that is borderline code S player. However i agree with you that Parting and Squirtle are better then Creator and overall Startale has a deeper lineup.
Curious borderline code S? hes top 3 zerg without question
On June 04 2012 10:19 vnlegend wrote: wow this is still going on. If you're that desperate for a win then of course, Parting won that one time. MKP still crushes Startale with ease whenever he wants to.
I agree MKP destroyed them today and that's all that matters, the GSTL finals doesn't mean anything anymore it was like 2 months ago. If Prime fans want a reason to say their team is better just point to today instead of then and no one is going to argue with you.
it wasn't really a teaaammm game though to be honest. lol.
Other members on Prime have shown just as well that they're better than pretty much anyone on ST. It's strange people are saying ST is the strongest team. I'd take MKP/Maru/Creator/BBBB over Bomber/Curious/Parting/Squirtle any day.
I'd say Creator is weaker than both Parting and Squirtle, while BBBB isn't that great in the first place. Prime's strength is in it'd trio of Terrans, MKP, Byun, and Maru. Creator is still pretty good don't get me wrong, but I'd say Parting and Squirtle top him easily.
I'm conflicted because MKP is my favorite player, I like Byun, Maru is showing so much potential, and Creator is averagely solid, but beyond that I don't think Prime's lineup is anymore deep than that. BBBB is super gimmicky imo, kinda JulyZerg esque, and while he can make it work he doesn't have that "solid" feeling to me, especially in the lategame.
While Startale has Parting and Squirtle, with Parting having sick PvT and Squirtle being arguably the best Protoss out there atm (I would say so, although I think Hero's PvZ is better). Curious is more solid than BBBB, Bomber is solid (although arguably inferior to the trio of Prime's Terrans), Virus and Hack are also quite solid, although neither are top either. I think I just see Startale with a really strong overall deep lineup, while Prime has a few star players that carry the weight of the rest of the team.
Maybe it's just me though, anyone else have similar opinions?
I think your not giving BBBB enough credit i think both him and Curious are around the same level and that is borderline code S player. However i agree with you that Parting and Squirtle are better then Creator and overall Startale has a deeper lineup.
Curious borderline code S? hes top 3 zerg without question
curious derps a lot in code S and owns elsewhere usually, let's see how well he does this season
On June 04 2012 10:19 vnlegend wrote: wow this is still going on. If you're that desperate for a win then of course, Parting won that one time. MKP still crushes Startale with ease whenever he wants to.
I agree MKP destroyed them today and that's all that matters, the GSTL finals doesn't mean anything anymore it was like 2 months ago. If Prime fans want a reason to say their team is better just point to today instead of then and no one is going to argue with you.
it wasn't really a teaaammm game though to be honest. lol.
Other members on Prime have shown just as well that they're better than pretty much anyone on ST. It's strange people are saying ST is the strongest team. I'd take MKP/Maru/Creator/BBBB over Bomber/Curious/Parting/Squirtle any day.
I'd say Creator is weaker than both Parting and Squirtle, while BBBB isn't that great in the first place. Prime's strength is in it'd trio of Terrans, MKP, Byun, and Maru. Creator is still pretty good don't get me wrong, but I'd say Parting and Squirtle top him easily.
I'm conflicted because MKP is my favorite player, I like Byun, Maru is showing so much potential, and Creator is averagely solid, but beyond that I don't think Prime's lineup is anymore deep than that. BBBB is super gimmicky imo, kinda JulyZerg esque, and while he can make it work he doesn't have that "solid" feeling to me, especially in the lategame.
While Startale has Parting and Squirtle, with Parting having sick PvT and Squirtle being arguably the best Protoss out there atm (I would say so, although I think Hero's PvZ is better). Curious is more solid than BBBB, Bomber is solid (although arguably inferior to the trio of Prime's Terrans), Virus and Hack are also quite solid, although neither are top either. I think I just see Startale with a really strong overall deep lineup, while Prime has a few star players that carry the weight of the rest of the team.
Maybe it's just me though, anyone else have similar opinions?
I don't think Squirtle is anywhere near as good as people hype him to be. His games are usually filled with absolutely disgusting mistakes - which is why I am very grateful he did not win Code S. Imo him being in the finals was a bigger disgrace than Inca.
On June 04 2012 10:19 vnlegend wrote: wow this is still going on. If you're that desperate for a win then of course, Parting won that one time. MKP still crushes Startale with ease whenever he wants to.
I agree MKP destroyed them today and that's all that matters, the GSTL finals doesn't mean anything anymore it was like 2 months ago. If Prime fans want a reason to say their team is better just point to today instead of then and no one is going to argue with you.
it wasn't really a teaaammm game though to be honest. lol.
Other members on Prime have shown just as well that they're better than pretty much anyone on ST. It's strange people are saying ST is the strongest team. I'd take MKP/Maru/Creator/BBBB over Bomber/Curious/Parting/Squirtle any day.
I'd say Creator is weaker than both Parting and Squirtle, while BBBB isn't that great in the first place. Prime's strength is in it'd trio of Terrans, MKP, Byun, and Maru. Creator is still pretty good don't get me wrong, but I'd say Parting and Squirtle top him easily.
I'm conflicted because MKP is my favorite player, I like Byun, Maru is showing so much potential, and Creator is averagely solid, but beyond that I don't think Prime's lineup is anymore deep than that. BBBB is super gimmicky imo, kinda JulyZerg esque, and while he can make it work he doesn't have that "solid" feeling to me, especially in the lategame.
While Startale has Parting and Squirtle, with Parting having sick PvT and Squirtle being arguably the best Protoss out there atm (I would say so, although I think Hero's PvZ is better). Curious is more solid than BBBB, Bomber is solid (although arguably inferior to the trio of Prime's Terrans), Virus and Hack are also quite solid, although neither are top either. I think I just see Startale with a really strong overall deep lineup, while Prime has a few star players that carry the weight of the rest of the team.
Maybe it's just me though, anyone else have similar opinions?
I don't think Squirtle is anywhere near as good as people hype him to be. His games are usually filled with absolutely disgusting mistakes - which is why I am very grateful he did not win Code S. Imo him being in the finals was a bigger disgrace than Inca.
Goes 3-4 against 3 time champion MVP in the finals of the closest and most epic GSL finals to date and he's a bigger disgrace than InCa? Not to mention he easily tore apart HerO 3-0 to get there.
That's just stupid. Squirtle is top 2/3 protoss in the world easily.
On June 04 2012 10:19 vnlegend wrote: wow this is still going on. If you're that desperate for a win then of course, Parting won that one time. MKP still crushes Startale with ease whenever he wants to.
I agree MKP destroyed them today and that's all that matters, the GSTL finals doesn't mean anything anymore it was like 2 months ago. If Prime fans want a reason to say their team is better just point to today instead of then and no one is going to argue with you.
it wasn't really a teaaammm game though to be honest. lol.
Other members on Prime have shown just as well that they're better than pretty much anyone on ST. It's strange people are saying ST is the strongest team. I'd take MKP/Maru/Creator/BBBB over Bomber/Curious/Parting/Squirtle any day.
I'd say Creator is weaker than both Parting and Squirtle, while BBBB isn't that great in the first place. Prime's strength is in it'd trio of Terrans, MKP, Byun, and Maru. Creator is still pretty good don't get me wrong, but I'd say Parting and Squirtle top him easily.
I'm conflicted because MKP is my favorite player, I like Byun, Maru is showing so much potential, and Creator is averagely solid, but beyond that I don't think Prime's lineup is anymore deep than that. BBBB is super gimmicky imo, kinda JulyZerg esque, and while he can make it work he doesn't have that "solid" feeling to me, especially in the lategame.
While Startale has Parting and Squirtle, with Parting having sick PvT and Squirtle being arguably the best Protoss out there atm (I would say so, although I think Hero's PvZ is better). Curious is more solid than BBBB, Bomber is solid (although arguably inferior to the trio of Prime's Terrans), Virus and Hack are also quite solid, although neither are top either. I think I just see Startale with a really strong overall deep lineup, while Prime has a few star players that carry the weight of the rest of the team.
Maybe it's just me though, anyone else have similar opinions?
I don't think Squirtle is anywhere near as good as people hype him to be. His games are usually filled with absolutely disgusting mistakes - which is why I am very grateful he did not win Code S. Imo him being in the finals was a bigger disgrace than Inca.
yeah even i believe squirtle is a top 5 toss... hmm
On June 04 2012 10:19 vnlegend wrote: wow this is still going on. If you're that desperate for a win then of course, Parting won that one time. MKP still crushes Startale with ease whenever he wants to.
I agree MKP destroyed them today and that's all that matters, the GSTL finals doesn't mean anything anymore it was like 2 months ago. If Prime fans want a reason to say their team is better just point to today instead of then and no one is going to argue with you.
it wasn't really a teaaammm game though to be honest. lol.
Other members on Prime have shown just as well that they're better than pretty much anyone on ST. It's strange people are saying ST is the strongest team. I'd take MKP/Maru/Creator/BBBB over Bomber/Curious/Parting/Squirtle any day.
I'd say Creator is weaker than both Parting and Squirtle, while BBBB isn't that great in the first place. Prime's strength is in it'd trio of Terrans, MKP, Byun, and Maru. Creator is still pretty good don't get me wrong, but I'd say Parting and Squirtle top him easily.
I'm conflicted because MKP is my favorite player, I like Byun, Maru is showing so much potential, and Creator is averagely solid, but beyond that I don't think Prime's lineup is anymore deep than that. BBBB is super gimmicky imo, kinda JulyZerg esque, and while he can make it work he doesn't have that "solid" feeling to me, especially in the lategame.
While Startale has Parting and Squirtle, with Parting having sick PvT and Squirtle being arguably the best Protoss out there atm (I would say so, although I think Hero's PvZ is better). Curious is more solid than BBBB, Bomber is solid (although arguably inferior to the trio of Prime's Terrans), Virus and Hack are also quite solid, although neither are top either. I think I just see Startale with a really strong overall deep lineup, while Prime has a few star players that carry the weight of the rest of the team.
Maybe it's just me though, anyone else have similar opinions?
I think your not giving BBBB enough credit i think both him and Curious are around the same level and that is borderline code S player. However i agree with you that Parting and Squirtle are better then Creator and overall Startale has a deeper lineup.
Curious borderline code S? hes top 3 zerg without question
Top 3 without question? I most certainly question that statement lol.
On June 04 2012 10:19 vnlegend wrote: wow this is still going on. If you're that desperate for a win then of course, Parting won that one time. MKP still crushes Startale with ease whenever he wants to.
I agree MKP destroyed them today and that's all that matters, the GSTL finals doesn't mean anything anymore it was like 2 months ago. If Prime fans want a reason to say their team is better just point to today instead of then and no one is going to argue with you.
it wasn't really a teaaammm game though to be honest. lol.
Other members on Prime have shown just as well that they're better than pretty much anyone on ST. It's strange people are saying ST is the strongest team. I'd take MKP/Maru/Creator/BBBB over Bomber/Curious/Parting/Squirtle any day.
I'd say Creator is weaker than both Parting and Squirtle, while BBBB isn't that great in the first place. Prime's strength is in it'd trio of Terrans, MKP, Byun, and Maru. Creator is still pretty good don't get me wrong, but I'd say Parting and Squirtle top him easily.
I'm conflicted because MKP is my favorite player, I like Byun, Maru is showing so much potential, and Creator is averagely solid, but beyond that I don't think Prime's lineup is anymore deep than that. BBBB is super gimmicky imo, kinda JulyZerg esque, and while he can make it work he doesn't have that "solid" feeling to me, especially in the lategame.
While Startale has Parting and Squirtle, with Parting having sick PvT and Squirtle being arguably the best Protoss out there atm (I would say so, although I think Hero's PvZ is better). Curious is more solid than BBBB, Bomber is solid (although arguably inferior to the trio of Prime's Terrans), Virus and Hack are also quite solid, although neither are top either. I think I just see Startale with a really strong overall deep lineup, while Prime has a few star players that carry the weight of the rest of the team.
Maybe it's just me though, anyone else have similar opinions?
I think your not giving BBBB enough credit i think both him and Curious are around the same level and that is borderline code S player. However i agree with you that Parting and Squirtle are better then Creator and overall Startale has a deeper lineup.
Curious borderline code S? hes top 3 zerg without question
Top 3 without question? I most certainly question that statement lol.
Depends on whether you consider Symbol as one of the best, or just a good player on a lucky streak (which Curious once was).
NesTea and DongRaeGu have both proven multiple times that they're probably the two best Zergs, so it comes down to Leenock and Curious fighting for the 3rd spot. They both have extremely similar styles (and both dominate ZvT, but suck at ZvP), but I would say that Leenock has been proven to be more consistent with his results.
1) DongRaeGu 2) SymboL 3) Stephano 4) NesTea 5) Leenock
Life, viOlet, LosirA, Curious, ByuL, Moon, BBongBBong and a couple more are pretty close to Leenock, and any of them could easily make a breakthrough in the next couple of weeks.
1) DongRaeGu 2) SymboL 3) Stephano 4) NesTea 5) Leenock
Life, viOlet, LosirA, Curious, ByuL, Moon, BBongBBong and a couple more are pretty close to Leenock, and any of them could easily make a breakthrough in the next couple of weeks.
Hold your horses man, just because Symbol got second at MLG Spring Arena 2, second at IronSquid, is on a 9-win streak in GSTL and qualified for code S in the recent month doesn't mean he's the second best zerg in the world.
1) DongRaeGu 2) SymboL 3) Stephano 4) NesTea 5) Leenock
Life, viOlet, LosirA, Curious, ByuL, Moon, BBongBBong and a couple more are pretty close to Leenock, and any of them could easily make a breakthrough in the next couple of weeks.
Hold your horses man, just because Symbol got second at MLG Spring Arena 2, second at IronSquid, is on a 9-win streak in GSTL and qualified for code S in the recent month doesn't mean he's the second best zerg in the world.
On June 04 2012 10:19 vnlegend wrote: wow this is still going on. If you're that desperate for a win then of course, Parting won that one time. MKP still crushes Startale with ease whenever he wants to.
I agree MKP destroyed them today and that's all that matters, the GSTL finals doesn't mean anything anymore it was like 2 months ago. If Prime fans want a reason to say their team is better just point to today instead of then and no one is going to argue with you.
it wasn't really a teaaammm game though to be honest. lol.
Other members on Prime have shown just as well that they're better than pretty much anyone on ST. It's strange people are saying ST is the strongest team. I'd take MKP/Maru/Creator/BBBB over Bomber/Curious/Parting/Squirtle any day.
I'd say Creator is weaker than both Parting and Squirtle, while BBBB isn't that great in the first place. Prime's strength is in it'd trio of Terrans, MKP, Byun, and Maru. Creator is still pretty good don't get me wrong, but I'd say Parting and Squirtle top him easily.
I'm conflicted because MKP is my favorite player, I like Byun, Maru is showing so much potential, and Creator is averagely solid, but beyond that I don't think Prime's lineup is anymore deep than that. BBBB is super gimmicky imo, kinda JulyZerg esque, and while he can make it work he doesn't have that "solid" feeling to me, especially in the lategame.
While Startale has Parting and Squirtle, with Parting having sick PvT and Squirtle being arguably the best Protoss out there atm (I would say so, although I think Hero's PvZ is better). Curious is more solid than BBBB, Bomber is solid (although arguably inferior to the trio of Prime's Terrans), Virus and Hack are also quite solid, although neither are top either. I think I just see Startale with a really strong overall deep lineup, while Prime has a few star players that carry the weight of the rest of the team.
Maybe it's just me though, anyone else have similar opinions?
I agree with you that ST has a deeper lineup than Prime's,but Prime has several all-killers,such as creator , GKP and MKP,they may shine in a random rotation that is enough to take victories home.also,annyeong and classic are pretty strong players who can sniper some big names in specific games.Compare to July,B4 is more flexible,i think,although his ZVP goes wrong while facing armies from VR(matches aganist Genius lately)
1) DongRaeGu 2) SymboL 3) Stephano 4) NesTea 5) Leenock
Life, viOlet, LosirA, Curious, ByuL, Moon, BBongBBong and a couple more are pretty close to Leenock, and any of them could easily make a breakthrough in the next couple of weeks.
Hold your horses man, just because Symbol got second at MLG Spring Arena 2, second at IronSquid, is on a 9-win streak in GSTL and qualified for code S in the recent month doesn't mean he's the second best zerg in the world.
Jesus Christ, fuckin amazin !!!
Well MKP got 2 MLG wins in a row, dominated his up&down group and all-killed Startale (in this very event), people are still calling him overrated, what do you know ;D
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