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ThePaladin
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany8 Posts
June 23 2011 20:17 GMT
#1
Following is a statement by the iCCup Administration referring to LRM)Game's 'ISL2'.
Enjoy iCCup :)
MiraKul
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Malaysia498 Posts
June 23 2011 20:19 GMT
#2
?? It'll better to provide a link.. i see ntg...
ovrpwrd
iCCup Management
Profile Joined June 2011
1 Post
June 23 2011 20:19 GMT
#3
Several issues need to be addressed here:
_________________________________________________________________________________

1.) LRM)Game has been informed in due time that iCCup does not wish any part of ISL2 and does not allow any of LRM)Game's events to be hosted on The Abyss in the future.
Following is an excerpt from Head Admin iCCup.Paladin's bot log, a whispered conversation between LRM)Game and iCCup.Paladin, dated June 17, 2011:
+ Show Spoiler +
[07:44:23 PM] <From LRM)Game> hi, there?
[07:52:34 PM] <To LRM)Game> yes
[07:52:41 PM] <From LRM)Game> have a moment?
[07:52:48 PM] <To LRM)Game> sure
[07:53:18 PM] <From LRM)Game> was just wondering what you've decided on, as we've already started preparing the isl2 release
[07:55:32 PM] <To LRM)Game> I've spoken to Cheloman and Mai-K, and they are opposed to any of your events being hosted on iCCup in the future ... I don't want to go against their wishes in this case
[07:57:12 PM] <From LRM)Game> understood, I won't involve iCCup then
[07:57:20 PM] <To LRM)Game> ok

So it should not come as a surprise that no stage of ISL2 will be hosted on any iCCup server.

This is directly attributable to the many occurances of LRM)Game having insulted and flamed iCCup as a whole and various iCCup Admins in particular.
It is in no way related to any 'personal grudges' iCCup staff may bear against LRM)Game, but is a purely 'business-motivated' decision, made by the current Head Admin, who hasn't had any dealings with LRM)Game before and therefore has no reason to bear him any grudge. iCCup simply does not wish to have dealings with an individual that openly dislikes and bad-mouthes it.

iCCup therefore applies its Right of Admission in removing the ISL2-related Team and all ISL2 player tags. This Rule is applied in the same fashion as iCCup bans offensive (vulgar or racist) account names.

iCCup wants to make very clear that this policy is in no way directed against the event itself or the SCBW community.
Should the sponsors of ISL2 wish for their event to be hosted on a non-laggy server and supported by a professional and experienced Admin Team to root out abuse and cheating, they are cordially invited to contact iCCup.Paladin by Private Message on www.iccup.com or on The Abyss game server.
iCCup will be happy to host any event that the SCBW community enjoys, and that has nothing to do with LRM)Game as an individual.
_________________________________________________________________________________

2.)
On June 24 2011 03:23 Eywa- wrote:
They wont let me host either.
Now do I seem so extreme to have called for an iccup boycott?

No iCCup Admin has ever prohibited Eywa- to host events on iCCup.
_________________________________________________________________________________

3.)
On June 24 2011 03:39 OneTrickPony wrote:
Paladin is actually Geckoxp's smurf. (both Germans, notice how Geckxp is not on admin page.)
Iccup is fucking retarded. Power hungry hyenas.

Is this a serious statement?
iCCup.GeckoXp has returned to his post in the Development Team, that is why he is not part of the iCCup SCBW Admin Team anymore.
Paladin and GeckoXp are most assuredly not the same person.
_________________________________________________________________________________

4.) Since the ISL2 thread has been closed, it is not possible anymore to quote from it; therefore copy/paste is used to quote Game: "You are too optimistic, this goes way over Paladin's head. Remember he has only been an admin for a little over one month, do not give him that much credit."
iCCup.Paladin is iCCup's Head Admin for SCBW, enjoying the full and complete trust of iCCup's most senior management. He is authorized to run the SCBW Division as he sees fit; thus nothing in this Division is 'over his head'.
________________________________________________________________________________

iCCup hopes that it has made its position clear, and that players understand iCCup simply does not wish to be involved in events hosted and/or organized by LRM)Game.
All other events are welcome to iCCup, including International StarLeague without LRM)Game's participation in any official position.
Of course, LRM)Game is welcome as a player.

Please feel free to confirm with TL Administration that this account has been registered using an @iccup.com email address and thus does not represent any individual Admin's opinion but publishes official iCCup policy.
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Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
June 23 2011 20:22 GMT
#4
So in other words....I'm going to be sad.
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Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-23 20:24:43
June 23 2011 20:23 GMT
#5
Why do you say it's not against the event itself but later on say it's the event? That's pretty rude.

iCCup wants to make very clear that this policy is in no way directed against the event itself or the SCBW community.


iCCup hopes that it has made its position clear, and that players understand iCCup simply does not wish to be involved in events hosted and/or organized by LRM)Game.
There's no S in KT. :P
Sayle
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom3685 Posts
June 23 2011 20:25 GMT
#6
It sounds like we can go ahead with the event as long as Game is not officially involved. I'm discussing this now with various people. I will contact Paladin as soon as we have something sorted out.
xarthaz
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1704 Posts
June 23 2011 20:27 GMT
#7
Dear god... Has Iccup gone totally mad O_O I though the server wanted to promote brood war, not kill it, T_T-
Aah thats the stuff..
supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3047 Posts
June 23 2011 20:28 GMT
#8
On June 24 2011 05:27 xarthaz wrote:
Dear god... Has Iccup gone totally mad O_O I though the server wanted to promote brood war, not kill it, T_T-

Sometimes miscommunications/past grudge/disagreements can kill off the scene easily.
ppp
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6805 Posts
June 23 2011 20:29 GMT
#9
well if i understand,iccup want control the tour O_O
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
June 23 2011 20:29 GMT
#10
without game theres noone to take on the mammoth task of organising this tho. Theres a reason game is the one organising so many of these events, because he is willing to commit the time to do it. To take game off ISL2 would probably cripple ISL2
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Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
June 23 2011 20:29 GMT
#11
[07:55:32 PM] I've spoken to Cheloman and Mai-K, and they are opposed to any of your events being hosted on iCCup in the future ... I don't want to go against their wishes in this case


He is authorized to run the SCBW Division as he sees fit; thus nothing in this Division is 'over his head'.


it seems like these 2 statements directly conflict with each other?
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xarthaz
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1704 Posts
June 23 2011 20:33 GMT
#12
An attempt to abstractise the brood war, to create a teleological concept of it that would be seperate of the practical actions that define its existance. A classic fallacy employed by political ideologies, and now the Iccup aswell.
Aah thats the stuff..
SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
June 23 2011 20:35 GMT
#13
Even without WCG USA the foreign bw scene is full of drama.

wtf guys
SiCkO_
Profile Joined September 2010
United States481 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-23 20:37:03
June 23 2011 20:35 GMT
#14
There are tons of things I would like to say about ICCup right now, none of them are very nice

please please let ISL 2 go through
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maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5752 Posts
June 23 2011 20:36 GMT
#15
"This is directly attributable to the many occurances of LRM)Game having insulted and flamed iCCup as a whole and various iCCup Admins in particular.
It is in no way related to any 'personal grudges' iCCup staff may bear against LRM)Game, but is a purely 'business-motivated' decision, made by the current Head Admin, who hasn't had any dealings with LRM)Game before and therefore has no reason to bear him any grudge. iCCup simply does not wish to have dealings with an individual that openly dislikes and bad-mouthes it."

This doesn't make sense whatsoever.

He insulted iCCup staff members and you don't want to get involved with him because of that. That's exactly what holding a grudge is. How on earth is this a "business motivated decision"? WTF.
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
June 23 2011 20:37 GMT
#16
You say you have no intention of hurting the BW community.
Then you hurt the BW community. over something as silly as a little BM. You're not calling it a grudge, but it IS a grudge. get over yourselves and let this slide.
for broodwar
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Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-23 20:39:00
June 23 2011 20:38 GMT
#17
On June 24 2011 05:28 supernovamaniac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2011 05:27 xarthaz wrote:
Dear god... Has Iccup gone totally mad O_O I though the server wanted to promote brood war, not kill it, T_T-

Sometimes miscommunications/past grudge/disagreements can kill off the scene easily.


Way I see it if Blizzard and Kespa, OGN, MBC can come to terms to keep broodwar alive then I don't see why these two groups can't do the same. Gotta lose ego at some point if this is the case.
There's no S in KT. :P
supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3047 Posts
June 23 2011 20:40 GMT
#18
On June 24 2011 05:38 Baarn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2011 05:28 supernovamaniac wrote:
On June 24 2011 05:27 xarthaz wrote:
Dear god... Has Iccup gone totally mad O_O I though the server wanted to promote brood war, not kill it, T_T-

Sometimes miscommunications/past grudge/disagreements can kill off the scene easily.


Way I see it if Blizzard and Kespa, OGN, MBC can come to terms to keep broodwar alive then I don't see why these two groups can't do the same. Gotta lose ego at some point if this is the case.

In my opinion, it will take ages before it happens, especially given their history.
ppp
Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
June 23 2011 20:41 GMT
#19
On June 24 2011 05:40 supernovamaniac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2011 05:38 Baarn wrote:
On June 24 2011 05:28 supernovamaniac wrote:
On June 24 2011 05:27 xarthaz wrote:
Dear god... Has Iccup gone totally mad O_O I though the server wanted to promote brood war, not kill it, T_T-

Sometimes miscommunications/past grudge/disagreements can kill off the scene easily.


Way I see it if Blizzard and Kespa, OGN, MBC can come to terms to keep broodwar alive then I don't see why these two groups can't do the same. Gotta lose ego at some point if this is the case.

In my opinion, it will take ages before it happens, especially given their history.


Seems like they worked their difference out. I see Blizzard wallpaper in booths and on screen. It's good inspiration to do what's more important.
There's no S in KT. :P
xarthaz
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1704 Posts
June 23 2011 20:43 GMT
#20
Two big egos. The way to solve is for both to cut off the cancer, the ego preventing solution. Eat the cancer, digest it, get rid of it. There is no place for it in the brood war platter, neither in its stomach. So it must be ridden off, through a visit to the toilet connected to the grudge sewer.
Aah thats the stuff..
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