Everyone so far in this thread can see it. I can see it. Stop the ridiculous arguing and trying to one-up and win the argument. Do not kill the chances of foreign BW to be something great, for this.

Baarn

United States2702 Posts

June 23 2011 20:45 GMT

#23

On June 24 2011 05:44 SiCkO_ wrote:

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I think he mean Game and ICCup

Yeah I see that but I'm trying to make a point about another group that got over issues.

fazek42

Hungary438 Posts

June 23 2011 20:48 GMT

#24

On June 24 2011 05:45 ImbaTosS wrote:
Everyone so far in this thread can see it. I can see it. Stop the ridiculous arguing and trying to one-up and win the argument. Do not kill the chances of foreign BW to be something great, for this.

Couldn't have said it better. Come on guys, for foreign BW!

xarthaz

1704 Posts

June 23 2011 20:48 GMT

#25

Game can be the mastermind, the dark lord behind the curtains controlling the puppets as necessary. All that must be done is to not let Iccup know of this. We must hide the tracks though, is is courtesy of polite arrangement conditions.

Brad`

Canada548 Posts

June 23 2011 20:51 GMT

#26

Thanks. I was looking for a reason to never log on to the dump that is iccup and focus on Fish and looks like I finally have that reason.

Time to try to learn some korean

Nevuk

United States16280 Posts

June 23 2011 20:51 GMT

#27

On June 24 2011 05:38 Baarn wrote:

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Way I see it if Blizzard and Kespa, OGN, MBC can come to terms to keep broodwar alive then I don't see why these two groups can't do the same. Gotta lose ego at some point if this is the case.

Iccup's ego is far larger than all of those organizations.

Baarn

United States2702 Posts

June 23 2011 20:51 GMT

#28

On June 24 2011 05:51 Nevuk wrote:

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Iccup's ego is far larger than all of those organizations.

Clearly.

xxpack09

United States2160 Posts

June 23 2011 20:52 GMT

#29

On June 24 2011 05:37 Kiante wrote:
You say you have no intention of hurting the BW community.
Then you hurt the BW community. over something as silly as a little BM. You're not calling it a grudge, but it IS a grudge. get over yourselves and let this slide.
for broodwar

Well said, nice 2K post.

That said, I hope sayle can work things out with the iCCup admin team...

xarthaz

1704 Posts

June 23 2011 20:53 GMT

#30

Really? You think its that simple? To just have iccup logos floating on sayles stream and all will be happy campers together again? Things have progressed, and after a while, grudges settle in. In the case of Blizzard and kespa it was not personal - so there was no grudge, only business probing of each other. With BW though, its two of the biggest, and most capable egos in a pillow fight. Ironically though, they will keep using excessive force unless conditions alter. Its a positive feedback loop with a factor only slightly above one, so a stable self reinforcing situation.

On June 24 2011 05:45 Baarn wrote:

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Yeah I see that but I'm trying to make a point about another group that got over issues.

SnowFantasy

4173 Posts

June 23 2011 20:55 GMT

#31

On June 24 2011 05:51 Brad` wrote:
Thanks. I was looking for a reason to never log on to the dump that is iccup and focus on Fish and looks like I finally have that reason.

Time to try to learn some korean

^_^ I stopped laddering on ICCup a long time ago.

Nevuk

United States16280 Posts

June 23 2011 21:02 GMT

#32

On June 24 2011 05:51 Baarn wrote:

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Clearly.

It's sad that I'm not being sarcastic at all. Getting blizzard to add lan support to sc2 is going to be easier than getting ICCUP to back down on anything.

LML

Germany1781 Posts

June 23 2011 21:03 GMT

#33

Should the sponsors of ISL2 wish for their event to be hosted on a non-laggy server and supported by a professional and experienced Admin Team to root out abuse and cheating, they are cordially invited to contact iCCup.Paladin by Private Message on www.iccup.com or on The Abyss game server.

I love how you try to steal the event

Also, your server itself is way too laggy way too often, as if you could try to brag with it, and what you probably mean is the lan latency, which is easily available with the ChaosLauncher and it's lan latency plugin (which the iCCup LL is based on), but the lan latency has nothing to do with the server as games are not connected to the server.
And how professional and experienced this admin team is is just shown here, where first you claim it's not a personal grudge but then describe exactly that.

However, just replace the official hoster of the tournament, we all know who the credit goes to anyways.

Game

3191 Posts

June 23 2011 21:08 GMT

#34

It's like I don't even need to post publicly, iCCup does the work for me.

Shotcoder

United States2316 Posts

June 23 2011 21:08 GMT

#35

Instead of actually posting things to attempt and salvage the current situation lets all bash the two parties that are involved.

As one of those who loves to see the BW scene flourish in anyway I would love to help in anyways possible but I have a question for the ICCup staff.

Would Game be able to organize and start the current league as long as he steps down as it gets underway? This way we get the league and its game on ICCup while keeping game out of the mechanics of it past the organizational phase?

Also Game I would personally like to donate/sponsor to this or the next ISL please pm details on how to do so. Thank you.

Sayle

United Kingdom3685 Posts

June 23 2011 21:15 GMT

#36

An agreement has been reached. Please wait for an official statement.

Shotcoder

United States2316 Posts

June 23 2011 21:25 GMT

#37

On June 24 2011 06:15 Sayle wrote:
An agreement has been reached. Please wait for an official statement.

Thank you for the good news Sayle

EchelonTee

United States5260 Posts

June 23 2011 21:26 GMT

#38

=/ all the posts I ever see on foreign bw are pointless fighting and bickering.. I don't see how either party expects any new blood to ever want to try and jump into this community. I'm moderately interested in the ISL but seeing stuff like this is embarrassing, to say the least.

oBlade

United States5956 Posts

June 23 2011 21:32 GMT

#39

On June 24 2011 06:15 Sayle wrote:
An agreement has been reached. Please wait for an official statement.

This is good to hear. I don't know anything about Game but iCCup is just easily badmouthed in general. The image of having the ladder stage on the abyss at no manpower cost to iCCup is probably better for their image than being bitter against one guy and driving more people away.

ImbaTosS

United Kingdom1707 Posts

June 23 2011 21:34 GMT

#40

On June 24 2011 06:26 EchelonTee wrote:
=/ all the posts I ever see on foreign bw are pointless fighting and bickering.. I don't see how either party expects any new blood to ever want to try and jump into this community. I'm moderately interested in the ISL but seeing stuff like this is embarrassing, to say the least.

Yeah, this. I was literally saying this a moment ago to a friend of mine- we have to be visible to a lot of people, in a positive light, to encourage new players and growth. This is definitely something we as a whole community need to get working straight.