• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 01:47
CET 07:47
KST 15:47
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10
Community News
Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced15[BSL21] Ro.16 Group Stage (C->B->A->D)4Weekly Cups (Nov 17-23): Solar, MaxPax, Clem win3RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket13
StarCraft 2
General
Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Maestros of the Game: Live Finals Preview (RO4) BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win SC2 Proleague Discontinued; SKT, KT, SGK, CJ disband
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Offline Finals Info - Dec 13 and 14! StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement Mutation # 501 Price of Progress Mutation # 500 Fright night Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation
Brood War
General
MBCGame Torrents Foreign Brood War BW General Discussion [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions Which season is the best in ASL?
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] RO16 Group D - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO16 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta Game Theory for Starcraft How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace Megathread The Perfect Game
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread The Big Programming Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Where to ask questions and add stream? The Automated Ban List
Blogs
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
Physical Exertion During Gam…
TrAiDoS
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1387 users

Discussion about 'Kaal International StarLeague' - Page 2

Forum Index > Closed
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 Next All
SiCkO_
Profile Joined September 2010
United States481 Posts
June 23 2011 20:44 GMT
#21
On June 24 2011 05:41 Baarn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2011 05:40 supernovamaniac wrote:
On June 24 2011 05:38 Baarn wrote:
On June 24 2011 05:28 supernovamaniac wrote:
On June 24 2011 05:27 xarthaz wrote:
Dear god... Has Iccup gone totally mad O_O I though the server wanted to promote brood war, not kill it, T_T-

Sometimes miscommunications/past grudge/disagreements can kill off the scene easily.


Way I see it if Blizzard and Kespa, OGN, MBC can come to terms to keep broodwar alive then I don't see why these two groups can't do the same. Gotta lose ego at some point if this is the case.

In my opinion, it will take ages before it happens, especially given their history.


Seems like they worked their difference out. I see Blizzard wallpaper in booths and on screen. It's good inspiration to do what's more important.


I think he mean Game and ICCup
SKT Toss line Fighting! | Bisu, BeSt, By.Sun! |
ImbaTosS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1699 Posts
June 23 2011 20:45 GMT
#22
Everyone so far in this thread can see it. I can see it. Stop the ridiculous arguing and trying to one-up and win the argument. Do not kill the chances of foreign BW to be something great, for this.
EleGant[AoV]
Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
June 23 2011 20:45 GMT
#23
On June 24 2011 05:44 SiCkO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2011 05:41 Baarn wrote:
On June 24 2011 05:40 supernovamaniac wrote:
On June 24 2011 05:38 Baarn wrote:
On June 24 2011 05:28 supernovamaniac wrote:
On June 24 2011 05:27 xarthaz wrote:
Dear god... Has Iccup gone totally mad O_O I though the server wanted to promote brood war, not kill it, T_T-

Sometimes miscommunications/past grudge/disagreements can kill off the scene easily.


Way I see it if Blizzard and Kespa, OGN, MBC can come to terms to keep broodwar alive then I don't see why these two groups can't do the same. Gotta lose ego at some point if this is the case.

In my opinion, it will take ages before it happens, especially given their history.


Seems like they worked their difference out. I see Blizzard wallpaper in booths and on screen. It's good inspiration to do what's more important.


I think he mean Game and ICCup


Yeah I see that but I'm trying to make a point about another group that got over issues.
There's no S in KT. :P
fazek42
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Hungary438 Posts
June 23 2011 20:48 GMT
#24
On June 24 2011 05:45 ImbaTosS wrote:
Everyone so far in this thread can see it. I can see it. Stop the ridiculous arguing and trying to one-up and win the argument. Do not kill the chances of foreign BW to be something great, for this.


Couldn't have said it better. Come on guys, for foreign BW!
xarthaz
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1704 Posts
June 23 2011 20:48 GMT
#25
Game can be the mastermind, the dark lord behind the curtains controlling the puppets as necessary. All that must be done is to not let Iccup know of this. We must hide the tracks though, is is courtesy of polite arrangement conditions.
Aah thats the stuff..
Brad`
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada548 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-23 20:51:23
June 23 2011 20:51 GMT
#26
Thanks. I was looking for a reason to never log on to the dump that is iccup and focus on Fish and looks like I finally have that reason.

Time to try to learn some korean
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
June 23 2011 20:51 GMT
#27
On June 24 2011 05:38 Baarn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2011 05:28 supernovamaniac wrote:
On June 24 2011 05:27 xarthaz wrote:
Dear god... Has Iccup gone totally mad O_O I though the server wanted to promote brood war, not kill it, T_T-

Sometimes miscommunications/past grudge/disagreements can kill off the scene easily.


Way I see it if Blizzard and Kespa, OGN, MBC can come to terms to keep broodwar alive then I don't see why these two groups can't do the same. Gotta lose ego at some point if this is the case.

Iccup's ego is far larger than all of those organizations.
Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
June 23 2011 20:51 GMT
#28
On June 24 2011 05:51 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2011 05:38 Baarn wrote:
On June 24 2011 05:28 supernovamaniac wrote:
On June 24 2011 05:27 xarthaz wrote:
Dear god... Has Iccup gone totally mad O_O I though the server wanted to promote brood war, not kill it, T_T-

Sometimes miscommunications/past grudge/disagreements can kill off the scene easily.


Way I see it if Blizzard and Kespa, OGN, MBC can come to terms to keep broodwar alive then I don't see why these two groups can't do the same. Gotta lose ego at some point if this is the case.

Iccup's ego is far larger than all of those organizations.


Clearly.
There's no S in KT. :P
xxpack09
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2160 Posts
June 23 2011 20:52 GMT
#29
On June 24 2011 05:37 Kiante wrote:
You say you have no intention of hurting the BW community.
Then you hurt the BW community. over something as silly as a little BM. You're not calling it a grudge, but it IS a grudge. get over yourselves and let this slide.
for broodwar


Well said, nice 2K post.

That said, I hope sayle can work things out with the iCCup admin team...
xarthaz
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1704 Posts
June 23 2011 20:53 GMT
#30

Really? You think its that simple? To just have iccup logos floating on sayles stream and all will be happy campers together again? Things have progressed, and after a while, grudges settle in. In the case of Blizzard and kespa it was not personal - so there was no grudge, only business probing of each other. With BW though, its two of the biggest, and most capable egos in a pillow fight. Ironically though, they will keep using excessive force unless conditions alter. Its a positive feedback loop with a factor only slightly above one, so a stable self reinforcing situation.
On June 24 2011 05:45 Baarn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2011 05:44 SiCkO_ wrote:
On June 24 2011 05:41 Baarn wrote:
On June 24 2011 05:40 supernovamaniac wrote:
On June 24 2011 05:38 Baarn wrote:
On June 24 2011 05:28 supernovamaniac wrote:
On June 24 2011 05:27 xarthaz wrote:
Dear god... Has Iccup gone totally mad O_O I though the server wanted to promote brood war, not kill it, T_T-

Sometimes miscommunications/past grudge/disagreements can kill off the scene easily.


Way I see it if Blizzard and Kespa, OGN, MBC can come to terms to keep broodwar alive then I don't see why these two groups can't do the same. Gotta lose ego at some point if this is the case.

In my opinion, it will take ages before it happens, especially given their history.


Seems like they worked their difference out. I see Blizzard wallpaper in booths and on screen. It's good inspiration to do what's more important.


I think he mean Game and ICCup


Yeah I see that but I'm trying to make a point about another group that got over issues.

Aah thats the stuff..
SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
June 23 2011 20:55 GMT
#31
On June 24 2011 05:51 Brad` wrote:
Thanks. I was looking for a reason to never log on to the dump that is iccup and focus on Fish and looks like I finally have that reason.

Time to try to learn some korean


^_^ I stopped laddering on ICCup a long time ago.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-23 21:03:04
June 23 2011 21:02 GMT
#32
On June 24 2011 05:51 Baarn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2011 05:51 Nevuk wrote:
On June 24 2011 05:38 Baarn wrote:
On June 24 2011 05:28 supernovamaniac wrote:
On June 24 2011 05:27 xarthaz wrote:
Dear god... Has Iccup gone totally mad O_O I though the server wanted to promote brood war, not kill it, T_T-

Sometimes miscommunications/past grudge/disagreements can kill off the scene easily.


Way I see it if Blizzard and Kespa, OGN, MBC can come to terms to keep broodwar alive then I don't see why these two groups can't do the same. Gotta lose ego at some point if this is the case.

Iccup's ego is far larger than all of those organizations.


Clearly.

It's sad that I'm not being sarcastic at all. Getting blizzard to add lan support to sc2 is going to be easier than getting ICCUP to back down on anything.
LML
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Germany1774 Posts
June 23 2011 21:03 GMT
#33
Should the sponsors of ISL2 wish for their event to be hosted on a non-laggy server and supported by a professional and experienced Admin Team to root out abuse and cheating, they are cordially invited to contact iCCup.Paladin by Private Message on www.iccup.com or on The Abyss game server.


I love how you try to steal the event

Also, your server itself is way too laggy way too often, as if you could try to brag with it, and what you probably mean is the lan latency, which is easily available with the ChaosLauncher and it's lan latency plugin (which the iCCup LL is based on), but the lan latency has nothing to do with the server as games are not connected to the server.
And how professional and experienced this admin team is is just shown here, where first you claim it's not a personal grudge but then describe exactly that.

However, just replace the official hoster of the tournament, we all know who the credit goes to anyways.
LML
Game
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3191 Posts
June 23 2011 21:08 GMT
#34
It's like I don't even need to post publicly, iCCup does the work for me.
SC is like sex. You should play often, but never too hard. And you should only try hard when it matters.
Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
June 23 2011 21:08 GMT
#35
Instead of actually posting things to attempt and salvage the current situation lets all bash the two parties that are involved.

As one of those who loves to see the BW scene flourish in anyway I would love to help in anyways possible but I have a question for the ICCup staff.

Would Game be able to organize and start the current league as long as he steps down as it gets underway? This way we get the league and its game on ICCup while keeping game out of the mechanics of it past the organizational phase?

Also Game I would personally like to donate/sponsor to this or the next ISL please pm details on how to do so. Thank you.

Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
Sayle
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom3685 Posts
June 23 2011 21:15 GMT
#36
An agreement has been reached. Please wait for an official statement.
Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
June 23 2011 21:25 GMT
#37
On June 24 2011 06:15 Sayle wrote:
An agreement has been reached. Please wait for an official statement.


Thank you for the good news Sayle
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5253 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-23 21:27:17
June 23 2011 21:26 GMT
#38
=/ all the posts I ever see on foreign bw are pointless fighting and bickering.. I don't see how either party expects any new blood to ever want to try and jump into this community. I'm moderately interested in the ISL but seeing stuff like this is embarrassing, to say the least.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5775 Posts
June 23 2011 21:32 GMT
#39
On June 24 2011 06:15 Sayle wrote:
An agreement has been reached. Please wait for an official statement.

This is good to hear. I don't know anything about Game but iCCup is just easily badmouthed in general. The image of having the ladder stage on the abyss at no manpower cost to iCCup is probably better for their image than being bitter against one guy and driving more people away.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
ImbaTosS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1699 Posts
June 23 2011 21:34 GMT
#40
On June 24 2011 06:26 EchelonTee wrote:
=/ all the posts I ever see on foreign bw are pointless fighting and bickering.. I don't see how either party expects any new blood to ever want to try and jump into this community. I'm moderately interested in the ISL but seeing stuff like this is embarrassing, to say the least.


Yeah, this. I was literally saying this a moment ago to a friend of mine- we have to be visible to a lot of people, in a positive light, to encourage new players and growth. This is definitely something we as a whole community need to get working straight.
EleGant[AoV]
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 20h 13m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 183
ProTech44
StarCraft: Brood War
Leta 199
JulyZerg 146
Shine 115
Soma 96
zelot 46
ToSsGirL 32
Noble 17
Hm[arnc] 8
Icarus 6
Dota 2
singsing875
monkeys_forever438
NeuroSwarm89
febbydoto4
League of Legends
JimRising 624
C9.Mang0390
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor102
Other Games
summit1g6964
Mew2King3059
XaKoH 266
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 28
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH121
• practicex 29
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 93
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo1190
• HappyZerGling126
Other Games
• Shiphtur214
Upcoming Events
Korean StarCraft League
20h 13m
CranKy Ducklings
1d 3h
WardiTV 2025
1d 5h
SC Evo League
1d 5h
IPSL
1d 10h
Dewalt vs ZZZero
BSL 21
1d 13h
Sziky vs OyAji
Gypsy vs eOnzErG
OSC
1d 15h
Solar vs Creator
ByuN vs Gerald
Percival vs Babymarine
Moja vs Krystianer
EnDerr vs ForJumy
sebesdes vs Nicoract
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
WardiTV 2025
2 days
OSC
2 days
[ Show More ]
IPSL
2 days
Bonyth vs KameZerg
BSL 21
2 days
Bonyth vs StRyKeR
Tarson vs Dandy
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
StarCraft2.fi
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
WardiTV 2025
4 days
StarCraft2.fi
4 days
PiGosaur Monday
4 days
StarCraft2.fi
5 days
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
WardiTV 2025
6 days
StarCraft2.fi
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-30
RSL Revival: Season 3
Light HT

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
Slon Tour Season 2
Acropolis #4 - TS3
META Madness #9
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
Kuram Kup
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.