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Do macro keys get you banned on Sc2?

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D3ath3nat0r
Profile Joined October 2010
United States163 Posts
December 01 2010 23:34 GMT
#1
Does using the Customizable Macro Keys on a keybaord have the chance of getting you banned on sc2?
Nothing
SmoKe93
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany162 Posts
December 01 2010 23:40 GMT
#2
Yes sir
Nazarid
Profile Joined February 2010
United States445 Posts
December 01 2010 23:51 GMT
#3
Im not sure if it can get you banned. but i would like to know where you are getting your info smoke93 so i can read this up myself before i get banned for having macro keys that I use to type "gl hf" with one button press as i don't use any custom keys for the game itself i just use them for chat/casting tools.
Randomize the world, and Life shall be given.
KMARTRULES
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia474 Posts
December 02 2010 00:07 GMT
#4
yes
bobbingmatt
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia224 Posts
December 02 2010 00:09 GMT
#5
What I heard, not sure if it is true,
If you have a button the does one thing ('mouse4' presses '1') that's okay
But if you have a button that does more then one thing ('mouse4' presses 'ctrl'+'1') then that is not okay.
As i said i'm not sure if it is true, it's just what i heard.
no
caldor
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark41 Posts
December 02 2010 00:18 GMT
#6
No, they do not get you banned. Was a long forum topic about it. Blizzard even sells macro mouse and keyboard for their games, and it is probably one of the reasons pros are to bring their own keyboards.
He who fears being conquered is sure of defeat
Nazarid
Profile Joined February 2010
United States445 Posts
December 02 2010 00:26 GMT
#7
On December 02 2010 09:18 caldor wrote:
No, they do not get you banned. Was a long forum topic about it. Blizzard even sells macro mouse and keyboard for their games, and it is probably one of the reasons pros are to bring their own keyboards.


Got a link to that post?
Randomize the world, and Life shall be given.
k20
Profile Joined September 2010
United States342 Posts
December 02 2010 00:33 GMT
#8
On December 02 2010 09:18 caldor wrote:
No, they do not get you banned. Was a long forum topic about it. Blizzard even sells macro mouse and keyboard for their games, and it is probably one of the reasons pros are to bring their own keyboards.

Yeah but I've never seen a pro play on a keyboard with macro keys.
Nazarid
Profile Joined February 2010
United States445 Posts
December 02 2010 00:46 GMT
#9
On December 02 2010 09:33 k20 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2010 09:18 caldor wrote:
No, they do not get you banned. Was a long forum topic about it. Blizzard even sells macro mouse and keyboard for their games, and it is probably one of the reasons pros are to bring their own keyboards.

Yeah but I've never seen a pro play on a keyboard with macro keys.


I have mostly seen them play on a mechanical keyboard and getting one of those with customizable keys is insanely priced well over 200$+, the basic mechanical keyboard runs 90-150$
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Marquise
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States50 Posts
December 02 2010 00:53 GMT
#10
On December 02 2010 09:09 bobbingmatt wrote:
What I heard, not sure if it is true,
If you have a button the does one thing ('mouse4' presses '1') that's okay
But if you have a button that does more then one thing ('mouse4' presses 'ctrl'+'1') then that is not okay.
As i said i'm not sure if it is true, it's just what i heard.

This man speaks the truth, I'll try to dig up the blizz quotes supporting it if I have time
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17726 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-02 01:07:21
December 02 2010 00:54 GMT
#11
On December 02 2010 08:34 D3ath3nat0r wrote:
Does using the Customizable Macro Keys on a keybaord have the chance of getting you banned on sc2?

You won't be banned using it on sc2 bnet. The only way its even possible to enforce it or detect someone is using one is through checking frame rate which seems rather impractical to code for something so small. I would say its banned in tournaments though. At least for most offline/live tournaments.
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
HocusPocus
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany214 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-02 01:08:15
December 02 2010 01:04 GMT
#12
using Macrokeys with multiple binds will get you banned from bnet2.0
im not sure if this counts for the blizzard hardware, but there is a thread on tl about it so im pretty sure that it can get you banned when using macros.

Using a Keyboard that has macro keys without using the keys is fine (i use a macrokeyboard myself but i dont use the macrokeys in sc2)

edit: found the thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=146760
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vicariouscheese
Profile Joined June 2010
United States589 Posts
December 02 2010 01:06 GMT
#13
no sc pros use macros, and very few use keyboards with customizable keys anyways

but i highly doubt theyll get you banned, theyre just not allowed in tournaments
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17726 Posts
December 02 2010 01:07 GMT
#14
On December 02 2010 10:04 HocusPocus wrote:
using Macrokeys with multiple binds will get you banned from bnet2.0
im not sure if this counts for the blizzard hardware, but there is a thread on tl about it so im pretty sure that it can get you banned when using macros.

Using a Keyboard that has macro keys without using the keys is fine (i use a macrokeyboard myself but i dont use the macrokeys in sc2)

I wonder how they detect you're using macro keys though?
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
NihiLStarcraft
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Denmark1413 Posts
December 02 2010 01:10 GMT
#15
Well, every replay is immediately "uploaded" to Blizz (that's not quite the actual procedure but who cares), so they can easily detect if there's a repetition/pattern of a combination of keys being pressed at *exactly* the same time - an algorithm or bot can do it and report players.
caldor
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark41 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-02 20:21:17
December 02 2010 20:16 GMT
#16
http://www2.razerzone.com/sc2/marauder.php

Yea, maybe they should consider changing business partners then. Selling Mouse and Keyboards ESPECIALLY designed for SC2 that supports easy macro making, is more than a little misleading. I guess maybe they just did not like Logitechs way of making macros, which they probably detected as a third party software doing something with SC2 that it was not supposed to be doing.

I for one sure would not keep silent about being banned using something they are also promoting. I do not use macro keys, mostly because I would have to think out uses for it, and would probably end up having it screw a game or two just because I clicked the wrong macro at some point.

But truly fail to have one part ban people for using macros, and then sell macro recording keyboards for the very same game. But then, on the EU forums we have a thread about this, buried somewhere, where a guy had a different response from a admin about this question.

But if I was the person banned for using macros, I would probably ask about the:
http://www2.razerzone.com/sc2/marauder.php

And wth we are supposed to think?

And just to nail it down so noone is mistaken:
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/1073985#blog

Blizzard IS promoting this keyboard and have promoted macro enabled keyboards for their games since WoW. Maybe even since Warcraft 3, but I am not sure.

Oh, I might as well add the kicker for this Starcraft 2 product:

Designed exclusively for StarCraft® II: Wings of Liberty™, the Razer Marauder StarCraft II gaming keyboard is a full-featured, tournament ready keyboard with an extremely compact design. The Razer Marauder’s elevated keys are perfected for rapid commands and improved gaming performance. Your increased performance is monitored by an all new APM (Actions-Per-Minute) Lighting System that provides real-time performance feedback through changing color hues for a completely immersive gaming experience. Enhanced with a dedicated on-the-fly macro recording system, the Razer Marauder is built with a gaming optimized design that reflects the StarCraft II universe and bolsters the gameplay experience.


Yep, thats right:
Enhanced with a dedicated on-the-fly macro recording system, the Razer Marauder is built with a gaming optimized design that reflects the StarCraft II universe and bolsters the gameplay experience.

Its even in the same sentence. I think they need to make it a wee bit more transparant that players buying this not so cheap set, that they might end up losing their account if they use the full features of this SC2 controller set.
He who fears being conquered is sure of defeat
caldor
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark41 Posts
December 02 2010 20:29 GMT
#17
Zomg... I reread his post, and he had already notified Blizzard that they are against something they were promoting... this makes no sense. I think this person needs his account recreated, and some random Blizzard game added to his account for free as a "sorry for our fuckup.", and then let him have a warning for using macros and that he should not do it again.

But as of now, there is nothing clear about not being allowed to use macros. I really doubt that a pro gamer would actually end up winning a game because of macros.

My guess is that this person who got banned just got unlucky and won against an SC2 admin, he noticed he was using macros, and thought he would decide what was and was not allowed to use in SC2.

He who fears being conquered is sure of defeat
Minzy
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia387 Posts
December 02 2010 20:39 GMT
#18
macro's from a keyboard sanctioned by blizzard are allowed, macro's from a 3rd party, not allowed. probably.

same thing happened a while ago in wow didnt it?
Huh...
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
December 02 2010 20:43 GMT
#19
I don't even understand the need for macro keys in SC2, it's not liek the game requires 300+ APM and you can't keep up. If you can't click "Ctrl+1" and so on fast enough you should not be playing the game.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
hitman133
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1425 Posts
December 02 2010 21:09 GMT
#20
What's wrong with macro key ? I mean I'm just sitting home, play the game for fun. And they ban us b/c of those macro key? Oh btw how could they know I'm using macro key in the game anyway?
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