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Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-08-30 02:28:05
July 29 2004 01:00 GMT
#1
*This post is by Legionnaire*

I would like to apologize the mass rambling that goes on here, but i highly recommend that EVERYONE reads this one! It may very well make your teamliquidian day!

The rules of how gamers are ranked have been changing fairly frequently. Less then a year ago it was really hard to become semi pro, and fairly easy to take the next step to become a full progamer. Then it changed to where it was both easy to become semi pro and easy to become progamer. (minor note, during this period i missed out on becoming full progamer twice by a single game, while brian also missed out on becoming semi pro by a single game)

From there the rules have changed again, it become very easy to become semi pro, but for full progamer status you had to actually reach the Starleague! Now the latest rules that have reached us, it is fairly easy to become semi pro, and those semi pros who will be participating in the next OGN pro league will be bumped up to progamer status along with some others.

This in my opinion isn't quite as good, as it is creating a large influx of fairly average gamers (i checked the list some people are ranked below the likes of sven and ntt!, which i might add is a fairly hard feat to accomplish)

Getting back on track, with the notice of the easy way to gain entry into the rosters of the progamers, there was one last quick fix for those gosu korean progamer wannabes!

That was a tournament we have talked about before (rekrul and assem both played last time) called "Courage". Which puts a lot of amateurs together and the 4 winners get both jun pro and a chance to make it into the next OGN challenge league.

Now for amateurs, the new rules provided a golden opportunity to not only gain their semi pro licence, but to then gain the easy access to become a full pro within a week! All that must be required is to get top 4 in one event full of other like minded amateurs.

Now the following list includes some of those amateurs from the previous few courage tournaments along with all other semi pros who have been lined up waiting. But nevertheless i bring you the latest wave of fully licenced progamers.

1. canata skt1 -- Entry From Courage (defeating the monstrous rekrul 2-1 T_T)
2. ??? goak dong hun ???
3. bejjezerg Hexatron
4. sasin[child] Soul
5. ]Min][Gu] KTF
6. B_blade Toona SG
7. usasunny Ganbit
8. tobecontinued Soul
9. ??? kim yun hwan ????
10. luna[alive] Hanbit
11. ipxzerg[gm] SumaGO
12. junitoss POS
13. [mgw]bluesky skt1
14. daezang[gnh] noteam
15. yellow[name] Kor
16. pro.nt)fantasy POS
17. zergman
18. oops)autumn Hanbit /OR/ much[gm] SumaGO
19. stay[hyo] Hanbit
20. soo[s.sir] Soul
21. pusan[s.g] Plus
22. breeze[akuta] Soul
23. iris[gm] SumaGO
24. Assem/Brian Hexatron --Entry From Courage
25. pos_shark POS
26. tester[gm] Toona SG
27. siva Hexatron
28. ever)t(sayoo Soul
29. anytime[gm] Plus
30. fofy[gm] Hanbit
31. rumble[hyo] skt1
32. dongrae Plus
33. ggon Samsung
34. [soul]gyuntae Soul
35. cuteboy[gm] Samsung
36. lottozerg KTF
37. artofniza Toona SG
38. gwanro[gm] Samsung
39. sm_clon Hanbit
40. hwasin[s.sir] Soul -- Entry From Courage
41. Peter Hexatron (5th highest ranked after gyuntae, ggon, july and siva (in no order))

only missed 2 and 9 anyone know who they are? only know of 3 who advanced from this latest courage out of the 4. And why was i listed LAST!!!! T_T


So as you can see the mighty Assem has come through and done his part for the foreign progaming scene (i'll try and get him to do a little write up but dont hold your breath T_T, dan/rekrul should be doing one soon for his PG reporting so stay tuned for that)

So congrats to him, and me, and all the other new progamers out there.

Sorry again for the mass amount of rambling that went on here.
why so 진지해?
Legionnaire
Profile Joined January 2003
Australia4514 Posts
July 29 2004 01:02 GMT
#2
OH FFS! I so have to stop letting that faggot use my computer! T_T
My hope is one day stupid people will feel the same pain when they talk, as the pain the rest of us feel when we hear them. Twitter: @Legionnaire_au
t3h.sWaRm
Profile Joined July 2004
United States202 Posts
July 29 2004 01:08 GMT
#3
kool
and congratz to ya both also ^^
PlayCraft
Profile Joined November 2003
84 Posts
July 29 2004 01:08 GMT
#4
reps Canata vs rekrul!!

So rek isnt licensed yet?
hasuwar
Profile Joined April 2003
7365 Posts
July 29 2004 01:13 GMT
#5
I don't quite get that..you and assem got top four in the latest courage tournament?
Diablo3 ID: Exalted#1710 -------R.I.P. http://hasuwar.isgsa.org. Much love to Toptalent
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
July 29 2004 01:17 GMT
#6
post made by leg
why so 진지해?
Legionnaire
Profile Joined January 2003
Australia4514 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-07-29 01:19:10
July 29 2004 01:18 GMT
#7
Well i listed 3 of the 4 who advanced fromt he courage and i said i dont know the fourth. So NO i did not play in the courage (as logic should show) I gained my semi pro licence a year ago when i played In 512 person amateur trouney held by MBC, i got top 8 along with ggon, terato, yooi and a few others.

Edit: oh yeah post by me... if that is what confused you, although i stated canata beat rek T_T
My hope is one day stupid people will feel the same pain when they talk, as the pain the rest of us feel when we hear them. Twitter: @Legionnaire_au
Born)Slippy
Profile Joined October 2002
Norway1904 Posts
July 29 2004 01:25 GMT
#8
I didn't understand much of that. :/
Chibi[OWNS]
Profile Joined May 2003
United Kingdom10597 Posts
July 29 2004 01:29 GMT
#9
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GooDGaMe
Profile Joined August 2003
United States989 Posts
July 29 2004 01:32 GMT
#10
Thanks for the news Peter. It's ok Rekrul, you'll get your licesne soon enough
gl hf ~~
DoubleStormIII
Profile Joined January 2004
Korea (South)2610 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-07-29 01:47:23
July 29 2004 01:36 GMT
#11
2. Ccoma (Z, Soul)
9. I don't know T_T

EDIT: 9. A player in KTF...probably a practice partner or something :O
Double Storm On You!
Adamthegreat
Profile Joined February 2003
Sweden1179 Posts
July 29 2004 01:38 GMT
#12
So.. what exactly are the benefits of getting a semipro-license and a full progammer license?

Congratulations to you and Assem by the way!
-_-v
Legionnaire
Profile Joined January 2003
Australia4514 Posts
July 29 2004 01:43 GMT
#13
waxangel asked me the exact same thing, i gave 2 really good reasons, though ican't really remember exactly what i said.

One is you can play in more tournaments, such as the 2nd round of the OGN pro league, only jun pros or progamers can play, no amateurs are allowed.

Can't remember the other one, but also the teams can fit all progamers in the tournaments, and with more pros, they will now have more room for other amateurs and jun pros to take spots in it.
My hope is one day stupid people will feel the same pain when they talk, as the pain the rest of us feel when we hear them. Twitter: @Legionnaire_au
Make7UpYours
Profile Joined October 2003
893 Posts
July 29 2004 01:43 GMT
#14
As I understand it it's easier to play in tournaments/leagues and get sponsorships. Also I think certain tournaments/leagues are only available to players with the semi-pro or pro status. Not sure though.
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
July 29 2004 01:55 GMT
#15
41. Peter Hexatron (5th highest ranked after gyuntae, ggon, july and siva (in no order))

why is that not in bold?
[GiTM]-Ace
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4935 Posts
July 29 2004 02:14 GMT
#16
yea u shoudl have put that in bold
I may not be the best player right now but I think I can beat any 'best' players. I'll beat all the best players and become the best player. Watch me. - Jju
MiniRoman
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Canada3953 Posts
July 29 2004 02:15 GMT
#17
No one cares about Leg anymore! Hes done his part and everyone assumed he was already a progamer! He gets no bold.
Nak Allstar.
Cpt. MorgaN
Profile Joined May 2004
United States86 Posts
July 29 2004 04:52 GMT
#18
Hell Yeah...Go Leg, Pusan and Deazang

I knew you guys would make a name for yourself (as if Leg hasn't already)
BooZe
Suicide
Profile Joined December 2002
United States475 Posts
July 29 2004 05:14 GMT
#19
Go Dongrae that guy rocks. =]
Life drags on
LumberJack
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3355 Posts
July 29 2004 05:14 GMT
#20
congrads to bryan, sux to pull canata(Fly[S.G]), he's good O_O 2-1 is descent. Be cool if u could of smuggled those reps out on a floopy o_O
Man fears the darkness, and so he scrapes away at the edges of it with fire.
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