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Okay we're going to start cracking down on people bashing players for no reason. You don't have to like every player, but at least show some respect. (as of page 402)
Zombie_Velociraptor
Profile Joined May 2011
274 Posts
June 05 2011 09:43 GMT
#18061
Can someone explain to me, what's the deal with having the extended series, anyway? For example, if MMA loses his series to Idra, why does July still have to win two series against MMA?
Allwars
Profile Joined May 2011
164 Posts
June 05 2011 09:43 GMT
#18062
I hope they fix this and set the restream as it was yesterday. I missed all the pool play and I don't want to see the results without seeing the games!
Nolot
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom271 Posts
June 05 2011 09:43 GMT
#18063
On June 05 2011 18:35 iamcup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 18:30 Ghad wrote:
On June 05 2011 18:28 iamcup wrote:
Damned, I was hoping they would get the whole broadcast running like yesterday since I couldn't watch the stream and now I can't rewind / close or pause it without it stopping and starting from beginning. Any fix around this ?


I couldn't rewind or move around in the restream in any way yesterday either, perhaps thats just the way it works.


Does anyone know if it's the whole broadcast since it got stuck in 2hours and something and tried to skip ahead and it started from the start. Yesterday it was possible to move around the broadcast


I have the same problem, it crashed after 1hour and 40mins or so and now I have to watch it all over again
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
June 05 2011 09:44 GMT
#18064
so excited for day 3, 4 hours to go!
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
Andamanen
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands915 Posts
June 05 2011 09:44 GMT
#18065
On June 05 2011 18:36 cybiz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 18:30 Ghad wrote:
On June 05 2011 18:28 iamcup wrote:
Damned, I was hoping they would get the whole broadcast running like yesterday since I couldn't watch the stream and now I can't rewind / close or pause it without it stopping and starting from beginning. Any fix around this ?


I couldn't rewind or move around in the restream in any way yesterday either, perhaps thats just the way it works.

Nope, you could navigate around it easily yesterday. I'm guessing the staff is just sleeping and they'll get to it after they wake up.

They had to shut down the rewinding-tech sometime yesterday as it was causing problems with the live stream. I don't think we'll get a big saturday vod before the sunday games begin.
sOda~
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom441 Posts
June 05 2011 09:44 GMT
#18066
this mlg is so shit, dont they realise i have an analysis exam tomorrow?
IM THE SHIT BITCH
magha
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands427 Posts
June 05 2011 09:44 GMT
#18067
So it's impossible to buy a HQ ticket?
Andamanen
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands915 Posts
June 05 2011 09:46 GMT
#18068
On June 05 2011 18:44 magha wrote:
So it's impossible to buy a HQ ticket?

HQ is free this whole weekend.
parazice
Profile Joined March 2011
Thailand5517 Posts
June 05 2011 09:47 GMT
#18069
On June 05 2011 18:39 Manimal_pro wrote:
is the vod for IdrA vs Thorzain up somewhere yet? the stream for day2 of starcraft doesn't seem to have it


youtube @kurosc2 ch
Nyor
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany35 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-05 09:50:46
June 05 2011 09:48 GMT
#18070
On June 05 2011 18:43 Zombie_Velociraptor wrote:
Can someone explain to me, what's the deal with having the extended series, anyway? For example, if MMA loses his series to Idra, why does July still have to win two series against MMA?


July lost against MMA 0-2 in the Pool Play.

If July and MMA play each other again at any time in the tournament, they no longer play a BO3, but a BO7, with the score from the previous matchup (0-2 included) being the starting score. They would have to play *up to* 5 more games.

Consequently, July would need to win 4 more times to qualify for the next round. He also can't lose more than once, because if he does, MMA goes to the next round.
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-05 09:55:46
June 05 2011 09:49 GMT
#18071
On June 05 2011 18:11 papaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 17:53 Golgotha wrote:
On June 05 2011 16:56 papaz wrote:
On June 05 2011 16:54 StreetHeat wrote:
On June 05 2011 16:48 Roffu wrote:
The way they set this up is so complicated I have no idea what's going on.. pools, seeds, highest, play 2 times bo7.. shitstorm.


You forgot extended series... Yeah, I'm pretty confused too


Never understood why MLG making this so damn complicated either. I have a hard time following.


its actually not complicated at all but it is very hard on the players who have to play a million games :D

just look at the charts or each individual bracket and see the progression of a player.

For example July:

He started in open bracket -> advanced to Pool Play for a chance to get into the Winners Bracket -> Did not rank high enough in Pool Play and was sent to Losers Bracket -> In the Losers Bracket he has to win X amount of games to advance to the final Championship match

Note: X amount of games is determined by how well he did in Pool Play.

Hope this helps.


Thanks for explaining


np I will go into it a bit more for ya!


1. July came into MLG as a newcomer so he was delegated to the Open Bracket with the rest of the players who did not seed high enough to immediately start out in Pool Play. On the other hand we have folks like EGIdrA who were given immediate spots into Pool Play for their high seeds.

2. Within the Open Bracket play, a player could win 5 straight matches (BO3 x 5) and get a spot in Pool Play. Or he could lose and fall straight into the Losers Bracket. Even if a player in the Open Bracket loses his first match and falls to the Losers Bracket, he can still become MLG champion, but of course he must pay for his early loss with more games than lets say a player who won in the first round of the Open Bracket.

Note: There are two Losers Brackets. There is a Losers Bracket for the Open Bracket and now there is a Losers Bracket for the Championship Round of MLG. The losers who could not make it out of the Open Bracket, but won in the Open Bracket-Losers Bracket are pretty much sent to another Losers Bracket (lol it is really hard on them because they had to play so many games just to get a spot in the Championship Round-Losers Bracket, THEN they have to play a shit ton more to get to the Finals).

3. July won all his matches in the Open Bracket so he did not have to go through the grueling process of fighting through the Open Bracket-Losers Bracket stage and went straight to Pool Play.

4. Now that July got a spot within a Pool Group, he must now face every Pool player in his group to determine the final pool rankings. This happens on the 2nd day. On the first day, all the initial pool players within a group play each other once. Thus, the 2nd day is pretty much "beatdown" the scrubs who come out of the Open Bracket Day. Last year, Naniwa came out of the Open Bracket and took out ALL his beaters. This year, none of the Open Bracket winners were able to take the top spot within their Pool Group.

5. Thus, July ended up in the Championship Round-Losers Bracket because he could not place first in his Pool Group (MMA beat him) and could not get a direct seed into the Championship Round-Winners Bracket.

6. But, because of the fact that he did not drop any games within the Open Bracket Stage and also due to his 2nd place finish within his Pool Group, he does not have to play as many games compared to those who may have lost within the Open Bracket Stage and ended up clawing their way through the Open Bracket-Losers Bracket and into the Championship Round-Losers Bracket.

7. To be honest, the Championship Round-Losers Bracket winner is the player that cannot be taken lightly. Even though it is a losers bracket, the player that emerges from this group will generally have played much more games against a variety of opponents than the winner of the Championship Round-Winners Bracket.


Does this help or is it more confusing? Sorry for typos, too sleepy to be perfect =( 2:30 AM here

cybiz
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland194 Posts
June 05 2011 09:49 GMT
#18072
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/hs12n/mlg_please_let_me_navigate_around_the_restream/c1xvddw

If you're really really really desperate to watch the vods
DoubleB
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany870 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-05 09:51:27
June 05 2011 09:50 GMT
#18073
Is it right, that the 1st of each group continuous to the winner bracket.
The people who won in the openbrackets are now in the loser bracket.
And in the final match there will be the winner of the winner bracket vs the winner of the loser bracket?

But what happend to the 2nd-4th gamer in the groupstages? They are out?

//EDIT: Ah okay, I was just to slow
supeROLL
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom29 Posts
June 05 2011 09:50 GMT
#18074
Thought I would re-post this stuff because it's so useful:

FOR EUROPEAN VIEWERS. Here is the schedule in CET time:

http://i.imgur.com/VeRUB.gif

Here are the standings / match-ups:

http://s3.majorleaguegaming.com/2011-columbus-starcraft2-champ.html#

(You can pick winners / losers brackets on the left.)

Here are the streams on MLG / JTV:

http://pro.majorleaguegaming.com/live/starcraft_2_blue
http://pro.majorleaguegaming.com/live/starcraft_2_red
http://www.justin.tv/mlgstarcrafa
http://www.justin.tv/mlgstarcrafb

supdubdup
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States916 Posts
June 05 2011 09:51 GMT
#18075
On June 05 2011 18:44 sOda~ wrote:
this mlg is so shit, dont they realise i have an analysis exam tomorrow?

nah -_-. . . this MLG is definitely not shit. It's actually doing everything beyond i expect for a MLG.
Turn it Up
jazzbassmatt
Profile Joined August 2010
United States566 Posts
June 05 2011 09:52 GMT
#18076
wow nice epic post
Zombie_Velociraptor
Profile Joined May 2011
274 Posts
June 05 2011 09:54 GMT
#18077
On June 05 2011 18:48 Nyor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 18:43 Zombie_Velociraptor wrote:
Can someone explain to me, what's the deal with having the extended series, anyway? For example, if MMA loses his series to Idra, why does July still have to win two series against MMA?


July lost against MMA 0-2 in the Pool Play.

If July and MMA play each other again at any time in the tournament, they no longer play a BO3, but a BO7, with the score from the previous matchup (0-2 included) being the starting score. They would have to play *up to* 5 more games.

Consequently, July would need to win 4 more times to qualify for the next round. He also can't lose more than once, because if he does, MMA goes to the next round.


Yeah, I know how it works - it just doesn't really make sense to me. Because of their first result, July already has to play FAR more games, having the extra handicap of extended series as well on top of it seems kind of... wrong, I don't know.
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
June 05 2011 09:54 GMT
#18078
On June 05 2011 18:46 Andamanen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 18:44 magha wrote:
So it's impossible to buy a HQ ticket?

HQ is free this whole weekend.

no, only day 1/2 i think
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
June 05 2011 09:55 GMT
#18079
On June 05 2011 18:22 sQually wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2011 18:18 ZAiNs wrote:
On June 05 2011 18:11 sQually wrote:
On June 05 2011 18:06 papaz wrote:
On June 05 2011 17:56 Stuv wrote:
Cant wait for Day3, fell asleep half way during the cast yesterday.
Awesome event!

A little bit dissapointed the Koreans do so well but that was expected.


Huh? Dissapointed that the Koreans do so well?

Why dissapointed?


Probably because in sporting events and .. well anything competitive you root for country first, then team or player second. For some reason it seems like that applies to everything except for e-sports. I guess it's because nerds don't understand that concept.

Because nerds have a higher intelligence level than your average person.


No, because nerds don't always understand concepts that apply to competitive environments. But really I don't care who you root for. I'm just saying.. it's widely accepted that you root country first.

Why? I don't see why I should root for someone just because they were born from the same country I was, instead of someone who's play I enjoy watching.
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
June 05 2011 09:56 GMT
#18080
On June 05 2011 18:44 sOda~ wrote:
this mlg is so shit, dont they realise i have an analysis exam tomorrow?

I have an exam tomorrow as well T_T. I also have one on Tuesday, and E3 sandwiches them all T_T.
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