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bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
August 12 2013 07:02 GMT
#101
Glad you're doing both right and wrong predictions. Should colour code them though. Red for wrong, green for right.

I'm sure Artosis has correctly predicted Mvp and Nestea to win a bunch of stuff that they ended up winning. He's a pretty big fan of both.

I think he also had Genius pegged in 2012 S1 from the Ro32 to win most rounds onwards. I remember him talking about it on SotG around that time.
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33447 Posts
August 12 2013 07:17 GMT
#102
rooting for the underdog is a lot more fun man
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
August 12 2013 07:24 GMT
#103
If I were a player at a major tournament, first I would tell Artosis to shut the hell up about my performance and after that I would pay him to talk about how well others will do ;D
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
juicyjames *
Profile Joined August 2011
United States3815 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-12 07:30:05
August 12 2013 07:29 GMT
#104
On August 12 2013 15:01 Popkiller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 14:38 iMrising wrote:

Artosis cheers for grubby
Grubby loses 3-2
WCS EU season 2


another point to raise, is Artosis rooting for someone enough to call it a prediction? I think not. I might have cheered for MMA to win EU, but I wouldn't have predicted it.

I agree. Rooting for someone is completely different than predicting them to win. You can root for an underdog, but still predict them to lose.

On August 12 2013 16:02 bittman wrote:
Glad you're doing both right and wrong predictions. Should colour code them though. Red for wrong, green for right.

I agree. Since you put forth such amazing efforts, you should definitely take the time to color code it, too!
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Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
August 12 2013 07:38 GMT
#105
So to fill out the WCS knockout predictions, he had Innovation over Soulkey (first he said, there's going to be 1 zerg in the top 4 after Symbol lost, then Khaldor asked him if that meant he was picking Soulkey and Artosis basically said, oh, nevermind that, Innovation wins - then he self-cursed himself saying, I guess that does mean we'll have 1 Zerg in the top 4 huh?).

Then he said Rian - Supernova was a hard call, but he was going with Rain (about 5 minutes in if you check the G1 vod).

Honestly, in the knockout stages for WCS2 the only iffy prediction he got wrong was First - Bomber, he basically went with the favorites (I don't even have to look at the LR threads to know that Maru was not favored against Symbol, Innovation or Rain by TL...) the rest of the time and we saw a bunch of upsets.

Artosis is definitely guilty of a hyping up players who show an awesome game (First) and assuming they'll always play like that though.

I suppose the flip side of that is he tends to waaaay underestimate players who haven't shown such good games (like Maru vs SoS).

But there's such a fine line between over hyping someone who's improving (did he turn the corner?) and discounting someone because he hasn't proven himself yet.
BlackPanther
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States872 Posts
August 12 2013 07:39 GMT
#106
On August 12 2013 16:29 juicyjames wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 15:01 Popkiller wrote:
On August 12 2013 14:38 iMrising wrote:
https://twitter.com/Artosis/status/366560009968037888
Artosis cheers for grubby
Grubby loses 3-2
WCS EU season 2


another point to raise, is Artosis rooting for someone enough to call it a prediction? I think not. I might have cheered for MMA to win EU, but I wouldn't have predicted it.

I agree. Rooting for someone is completely different than predicting them to win. You can root for an underdog, but still predict them to lose.

Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 16:02 bittman wrote:
Glad you're doing both right and wrong predictions. Should colour code them though. Red for wrong, green for right.

I agree. Since you put forth such amazing efforts, you should definitely take the time to color code it, too!


Ok, I'll do the color coding. Nice idea.

I think I'll separate out the predictions and the cheering as well.
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
August 12 2013 07:51 GMT
#107
I don´t like a thread about every time such a cool guy is wrong.
BlackPanther
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States872 Posts
August 12 2013 07:54 GMT
#108
On August 12 2013 16:51 Daswollvieh wrote:
I don´t like a thread about every time such a cool guy is wrong.


Then send me some correct predictions . Maybe hes actually right most of the time but we highlight his wrong predictions.
Joedaddy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1948 Posts
August 12 2013 07:56 GMT
#109
On August 12 2013 08:17 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 08:09 BlackPanther wrote:
On August 12 2013 08:07 CosmicSpiral wrote:
GSL March 2011

Artosis says that he will swallow a sword if SanZenith makes it out of his Ro32 group, which also had Nestea, Boxer, and Ensnare. San goes 3-0 and makes it to the Ro4 of the tournament.

GSL November 2011

Artosis claims that anyone but jjakji will win the whole thing. jjakji wins the whole thing.
GSL Season 4 2012

Artosis predicts that Mvp will win the finals 4-1 or 4-2. Mvp loses to Startale_Life 3-4.


Thanks, I'll add this to the list. If you can find evidence that'd also be good.


For jjakji:


For mvp:
http://www.gomtv.net/2012gsls4/vod/70653


lol~ Tasteless says "It's gonna be jjakji, I'm calling it now.

Artosis says "never ever gonna happen"

I'm convinced. The curse is real!
I might be the minority on TL, but TL is the minority everywhere else.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-12 08:03:24
August 12 2013 08:02 GMT
#110
I love Artosis so hard. Not only is he so invested in the game but he actually has diving power. It's so nice to see this guy in the community.

jjakji and Maru have both been blessed by Tasteless apparently. The Tasteless blessing is way more rare than the Artosis curse, but it's there.
maru lover forever
TRaFFiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1448 Posts
August 12 2013 08:06 GMT
#111
On August 12 2013 16:24 NarutO wrote:
If I were a player at a major tournament, first I would tell Artosis to shut the hell up about my performance and after that I would pay him to talk about how well others will do ;D

lmao

now all you gotta do is qualify for a tournament he casts and it's a sure thing.

Artosis: The new guy on the block is probably nervous being on stage for the first time and won't know what to do against this proxy hatch in his natural. This could be a fast one Tasteless.

Tasteless: Yeah, I agree man.

Arty: He's cancelling his gas. Oh god, he's falling apart. Cancelling things by accident.

Arty: Now he build a second rax. I don't know about this tasteless. I would prefer a tank. No way he can hold his natural.

Arty: OMG the marines are taking out the hatch. He sniped the tumour!

Arty and tasteless: GG, a stunning upset after easily holding the cc block.
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Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
August 12 2013 08:20 GMT
#112
On August 12 2013 17:06 TRaFFiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 16:24 NarutO wrote:
If I were a player at a major tournament, first I would tell Artosis to shut the hell up about my performance and after that I would pay him to talk about how well others will do ;D

lmao

now all you gotta do is qualify for a tournament he casts and it's a sure thing.

Artosis: The new guy on the block is probably nervous being on stage for the first time and won't know what to do against this proxy hatch in his natural. This could be a fast one Tasteless.

Tasteless: Yeah, I agree man.

Arty: He's cancelling his gas. Oh god, he's falling apart. Cancelling things by accident.

Arty: Now he build a second rax. I don't know about this tasteless. I would prefer a tank. No way he can hold his natural.

Arty: OMG the marines are taking out the hatch. He sniped the tumour!

Arty and tasteless: GG, a stunning upset after easily holding the cc block.


Artosis's predictions always come before the game; the actual casting is precise and excellent, especially when he can joke around with Tasteless.
maru lover forever
BlackPanther
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States872 Posts
August 12 2013 09:27 GMT
#113
Are the old VODs from GSL 2010 and 2011 available for free or are they still under paywall?
juicyjames *
Profile Joined August 2011
United States3815 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-12 09:33:36
August 12 2013 09:31 GMT
#114
On August 12 2013 18:27 BlackPanther wrote:
Are the old VODs from GSL 2010 and 2011 available for free or are they still under paywall?

All games from every GomTV SC2 event in 2010 and 2011 are now available free.
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Zaxon
Profile Joined January 2011
Belgium209 Posts
August 12 2013 10:09 GMT
#115
How come we let This person have so much power ! He is the rider of the apocalypse! he is destroying Sc2 esports and exciting matches ! We must rise up to this Source of funnycasting and Pure Darkness !
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
August 12 2013 10:16 GMT
#116
Artosis predicts Rain to beat Fantasy (Note: This was the throw game)


I find that part really insulting :/
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{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
August 12 2013 10:32 GMT
#117
why is that insulting, no one in his right mind thought that fantasy was "giving his all" in that game, he was already out and his teammate would be out too if he would ve won, its a pretty clear case.
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Liman
Profile Joined July 2012
Serbia681 Posts
August 12 2013 10:37 GMT
#118
wow Artosis is damned :D
Freelancer veteran
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
August 12 2013 10:48 GMT
#119
On August 12 2013 19:32 {ToT}ColmA wrote:
why is that insulting, no one in his right mind thought that fantasy was "giving his all" in that game, he was already out and his teammate would be out too if he would ve won, its a pretty clear case.


It's the word "throw" itself. Throw designates, especially in the sc community, a conscious effort to lose the games. It brings up a lot of issues that have been faced in the past and is always very harshly looked upon. Especially the BW scandal, and the ESF weekly Coca-Byun thing.

Honestly it shouldn't even be noted.
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Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-12 11:16:30
August 12 2013 11:15 GMT
#120
Dear god it's looking even more devastating then i imagined o0

Pro players will cower in fear when they read this haha.

Also Artosis ... please never try gambling.
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