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redFF
United States3910 Posts
On February 04 2012 03:32 Blazinghand wrote: i think redFF has a custom role with no special powers, but the restriction that he must disagree with me whenever he interacts with me in some way, even if it's trivial I'm disagreeing with you because you're fucking awful at this game and wrong about everything. | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
Day 4 ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/TEcA3.jpg) In this world of falsehoods, we carry the torch of truth. TLNN: Let us tell YOU what is real. We begin the day with tragic news. Local resident Navillus was found murdered today while walking to his car outside of his apartment building. Navillus’s neighbors called the police when they heard suspicious noises coming from outside. TLNN would like to remind all citizens that a curfew has been enacted, and all civilians are expected to be indoors by 8:00 PM. More news to come as events develop. Navillus, the Honest Citizen, was killed! It is now Day 4! the day ends on Monday, Feb 06 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) | ||
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Navillus
United States1188 Posts
Anyway GL guys :D + Show Spoiler +  | ||
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
There is constant accusations of associations and how loud player X is scum or loud player Y is dumb and X isn’t scum but loud player Z is actually the scum. People are ignoring a lot that has been said in favor of calling each other names and the like. Basically, I think this town, no this whole thread, has become completely filled with useless conjecture that isn’t based in sound logic concerning the setup and the actions of the people in it. I am going to make an effort to bring the discussion back to that now. Some conclusions that I am operating on that the people in this thread need to at least consider: The mafia are going to act very independently this game. With that in mind the mafia players are each going to act WAY more self serving than even in a traditional game. They have to. Another thing, saying if one person is scum/town then another is scum/town is a stupid course of action in this setup. Yes stupid. The reason that we haven’t lynched a single scum AND that scum haven’t killed one of their own is simply because the scum are laying low. I pointed this out before and I even found the single player that is abusing this idea to the highest level. This was ignored in favor of lynching a person who claimed to not have had time to read for very long before vote was required or he would be mod killed. As if it would make any sense for a scum player that is playing to win to pop in and last second vote AND to draw huge amounts of attention to it. Such a gambit would only make sense in a setup where the mafia has access to power roles that manipulate night actions (framer roleblocker) (if you think the mafia DOES have such PRs say so, I take it as a balance issue for them not to… did the previous sleeper cell game have mafia power roles?). The mafia don’t know who each other are and they don’t want to be lynched. Starting with the start of day 2, it became clear that lurking was going to be largely acceptable because we had ‘better’ targets to lynch. With the loud players voting off other loud players and the mafia killing off loud players… it seems the only ones that have an easy way to live out their days is the silent lurkers. Starting with today, I will be pressuring everyone to justify GGQ’s actions as anything that isn’t anti-town because I cannot see a single reason for a player to play like he is except one of a self preserving nature. So the primary way of finding mafia is just by lynching players who aren't contributing to the town but aren't completely lurking. GGQ said that on day 1. I brought this up before, but it needs to be brought up again. This is a complete scum post. It outlines a way of lynching players that are not lurkers as a primary goal. Other than that, GGQ only deems it worthy to post one liners and to randomly throw FOS out at multiple people at a time with no evidence. He is creating confusion while adding nothing at all to any case. He also posted a one liner calling a case on him shit. HE goes inactive for a long time and then drops in to say and I quote: Did you think I was joking when I said I had no time to chat? Sorry but I think it’s honestly pretty obvious at this point. The people that are scummiest are the people that everyone is talking about lynching. My god. How did you guys let him get away with this? The most he gives us to add to a discussion yesterday is that his gut instinct is to vote meapak/scamp. He does this after a sheep vote on refallen gets called scummy. That was also a last minute vote. If you have NOT read his filter, you are being a lazy moron. Its short and boring and adds nothing new about anything other than the fact that it confirms that he is lynching and sheeping his way out of every lime light. Come on guys, it’s the town’s job to prevent the scum from lurking a way to victory and in this setup we should be MORE wary of it not less. That or we can go back to seeing which loud case about a loud player generates the most votes from the people that post small tidbits and then all sheep onto that person. That seems to be working out pretty well (for the scum). ##vote GGQ | ||
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
edited part in bold | ||
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Lanaia
Canada1142 Posts
Jackal, who do you think is scum? | ||
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GGQ
Canada2653 Posts
On February 04 2012 09:21 vaderseven wrote: If you have NOT read his filter, you are being a lazy moron. Its short and boring and adds nothing new about anything other than the fact that it confirms that he is lurking and sheeping his way out of every lime light. edited part in bold How many limelights are there? Look at vaderseven's filter and explain to me why it's better than mine. | ||
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
On February 04 2012 09:29 GGQ wrote: How many limelights are there? Look at vaderseven's filter and explain to me why it's better than mine. Dude you lurk so hard that savior cant get you to start doing shit. | ||
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Lanaia
Canada1142 Posts
On February 04 2012 09:30 vaderseven wrote: Lanaia, comment on GGQ before I explode. The thing is, GGQ played very similarly last game, and he flipped town in that game. But based on what I read in his filter, I'm not really sure. Some people just lurk. I don't really understand why he inned if he was so busy, but that's not really my business. There really isn't much I can say about him. vader's filter is better because he goes more into depth about his reads and it's about twice as long as yours, GGQ. I want a list of your top four scumreads, GGQ. vader, what do you think about redff? In other news, NO MORE WORKING TIL 4 AM YAY! | ||
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
I dont know really. | ||
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
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Lanaia
Canada1142 Posts
People I am willing to lynch today: GGQ Heymyrr Zeph Possibly redff. There are some neutrals I'd feel better about not lynching today so I don't have them on here. Vader, do you think he'd be hiding by doing what he's doing if he is scum? | ||
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
They are sheeping and last second voting and are really in control over this game as much as you or I but without allowing their words to be committed to posts. What really gets me is how this style makes them an easy DONT SHOOT ME target at night because they are leading the town to any lynches or making cases etc. | ||
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
On February 04 2012 09:49 Lanaia wrote: Vader, do you think he'd be hiding by doing what he's doing if he is scum? 100%. | ||
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
On February 04 2012 09:49 vaderseven wrote: I really feel like we cant get good cases built on people like red (if he is scum) until we deal with the outliers in this game like GGQ. They are sheeping and last second voting and are really in control over this game as much as you or I but without allowing their words to be committed to posts. What really gets me is how this style makes them an easy DONT SHOOT ME target at night because they aren't leading the town to any lynches or making cases etc. edit in bold | ||
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
On February 04 2012 09:49 Lanaia wrote: People I am willing to lynch today: GGQ Heymyrr Zeph I agree minus the strike out. GGQ is the most likely of these to flip scum based on my reads. | ||
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Lanaia
Canada1142 Posts
Had to include red because I was asked to weigh in on the Jackal/red situation and we cannot lynch jackal. He's not the only one, though. also, sorry Hesmyrr for spelling your name wrong. | ||
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Hesmyrr
Canada5776 Posts
First, Scamp. He makes a post that he doesn't like Refallen lynch and is suspicious of Jackal. He has made no post which indicates he deviated from his position at the time of his vote. I mean, come on xD This has a lazy scum bandwagon written all over it (the point I brought up on first paragraph becomes really important here). Then there is GGQ who switches vote to Scamp at the last minute, when anyone can see such action is waste of vote. Actually, trying to push for Scamp is absolutely fine since he is scummy as hell. The problem is that he made no effort to persuade the town of this thereafter. Completely useless behaviour and I already said I suspect it of being attempt to buy town cred or something. So we lynch Scamp - who had more scummy behaviour - then GGQ next. Looking over the thread I really do not expect anyone will have objection to this plan. ##Vote Scamp | ||
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