EPTI personally don't have foundation for a geript lynch but I've had a gut read all game and since people are discussing him I was gonna filter dive and see if there was foundation.
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I personally don't have foundation for a geript lynch but I've had a gut read all game and since people are discussing him I was gonna filter dive and see if there was foundation. | ||
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never once does he properly analyze oats and is content to simply lean on his "gut read" he constantly talks about both oats and jay but never really tries to get people to join him and instead simply tells people to vote them because his targets are guaranteed scum. The biggest thing I get out of geript is a bunch of noise and posts without doing anything substantial. For instance, he has his main targets but he brings up others on the side and never follows up. He's in that twilight zone where you can't blame him for the bum mislynch but he was definitely involved. Probably the biggest thing in geript's favor is calling out people like austin and coag, both of whom are low content lurkers. If he's scum he could be bussing his teammates but it's a point in his favor that he doesn't let them fall through the cracks. However the reason why this doesn't clear him is because he never follows up with any of this. It's easy enough to call out lurkers as scum but he never actually follows through which makes me think this was an effort to appear protown. geript is frustratingly inconclusive for me. He's done things I feel are scummy (hence my gutread) but I couldn't put it into a coherent analysis. This is the problem I was running into earlier in the game when I was looking at geript and sadly bum's death hasn't really made it any easier. He could be scum but I'd rather look into bum's other suspects right now. | ||
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Right now it just feels like you're riding the untouchable nature of the inventor and giving a massive fuck you to this town. | ||
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On December 05 2013 00:49 Koshi wrote: I am riding the untouchable nature of the inventor but I love town and I hope we as town prevails! I have no scumreads atm. Except Kurumi. Ok lets roleplay. It's an hour from the end of day, you're not the inventor and you have 15 votes on you. There's a green check on kurumi, convince us to lynch someone other than you. Amaze me koshi. | ||
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On December 05 2013 00:50 marvellosity wrote: So? That applies to 10 players or something this game. From the mafia database, Roffles' last played (town) game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=139517&user=Roffles&view=all You think he gave a shit in that filter? I don't remember ever playing with roffles so if there's a meta excuse for acting like an ass I wasn't familiar. | ||
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On December 05 2013 00:53 jcarlsoniv wrote: Again, I say that this describes Roffles in anything. I don't like it, and would love for him to actually do something, because the amount of lurkers is really dangerous for us, but it's Roffles... Since you're the second person to say this I'm just gonna have to accept it for now. | ||
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On December 05 2013 01:00 Koshi wrote: I have played so many town games in a row and that scenario does not happen. I'll see what I can do on D2. you know what, fuck your role I am absolutely ok with killing koshi right now. Seriously how hard is it to do ANYTHING AT ALL TO HELP THE FUCKING TOWN? Like if you're not gonna play then why join the game. | ||
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On December 05 2013 00:56 marvellosity wrote: I think Roffles is well known on TL as a whole for being a reasonably aggressive sort of chap. My point in general was that "he's doing nothing/being an ass/some other annoying thing" is sadly not a reason enough on its own, because it applies to too many people. So a check on meta for these people is useful. (kush) Rean (ticklish) gtrsrs Roffles Onegu Risen Kenpachi Coagulation jaybrundage Gotta try to pick between these sorts of players somehow. How is it so fucking hard to at least play enough that others can get a read on you. Fuck this it's like we're playing against a 10 man scum team. | ||
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On December 05 2013 01:26 Koshi wrote: I scumhunted so hard that I made Kurumi get himself modkilled. I got 6 pages of filter and I am the only one that did anything with the number vote thingies which we will all remember once people start flipping. On top of that I have answered each question asked to me honestly and quickly. The onle thing I did not donis gave you a list with the entire scumteam on. HOW DARE I. Instead of creating scenarios in which Kurumi has a green check. Why dont you fucking discuss my lenghty case on Kurumi or the points that I raise about him? ...you made kurumi get himself modkilled... have you ever seen a scum do that? | ||
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On December 05 2013 01:40 kushm4sta wrote: This isn't a read on you.this is statistically the right play. There are so many scum.you are very active. You have been wrong once already and you had a shit case on bum which you knew was shit. If you do not push a scum lynch d2 town should just vig you or something gold star for contributing kush | ||
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On December 05 2013 01:42 kushm4sta wrote: Hi mz why are you town ? because I've done shit this game and actually care about what's going on. Rather than hide behind idiotic questions, why don't you give some decent scum reads and tell us who you think is scum rather than ask marv to solve the game for you? | ||
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Or is that fed up townie? I'm asking you to think, which I understand may be difficult for you. | ||
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On December 05 2013 02:17 Koshi wrote: That post makes jay town in my book. Don't know if it makes VE more scum but delurk is delurky. So the content of what he posted doesn't matter, only that he posted? Well broadcast the fucking message to the scum team, all you guys need to do is post a halfassed analysis and koshi will call you town. | ||
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On December 05 2013 02:20 marvellosity wrote: This is one of the worst posts in the game. His post or mine? | ||
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On December 05 2013 02:23 Koshi wrote: Fed up with what though? Me considering he is scum? He gets targeted by me and decides to stop posting and "the game isn't fun anymore" while he is having 10 scumreads. at least 6 without explanation and the ones he has and explanation about I asked more about and he "forgot" why those were scum and downplayed his reads to "gutreads". Anyway, I agree with you all he is probably going to flip town on the daypost but we will see. I will be amused when he doesn't flip at daypost. Wat? Your first paragraph literally makes no sense.] And now you think he's town? | ||
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On December 05 2013 02:24 marvellosity wrote: Yours, MZ. It's completely ridiculous and over the top. My reaction was almost identical to Koshi's actually. What happened when I read jay's post? Something like: I sat there and thought huh, that's interesting. Let's look in these spoilers. Oh yeah, VE did do that stuff jay said. He's actually gone and researched this. Hmm, this is an interesting perspective which gave some thought. *goes to move jay back from scummy to null in spreadsheet*. I wonder if it genuinely makes VE scummy or if it's just coincidence? Probably just coincidence for now, but it's interesting at any rate. Instead you go on full-bitch about it about half-assed analysis and broadcast to the scumteam and other over the top nonsense? Really? It's not about what jay wrote, it's how koshi responded. You actually thought about what jay wrote and considered the point he was making in the scope of the game. koshi couldn't be assed to do anything like that. I am incredibly frustrated and fed up with koshi right now. | ||
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On December 05 2013 02:29 marvellosity wrote: Koshi just wrote in succinct form something pretty similar to what I thought and said there. Whatever this frustration you have with Koshi is, I'm finding it quite bizarre the way you're going about it. I can't justify lynching him because he's the inventor and as long as there's a chance he's town he's valuable. His flat out refusal to do anything at all combined with his "fuck you guys" attitude towards the town whenever we ask for something useful is just pissing me off. He knows he won't be lynched so he's using it as a free pass to do nothing. I'm gonna take a break for a while. | ||
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