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StrifeCro
Profile Joined April 2010
United States69 Posts
August 16 2010 04:49 GMT
#641
On August 16 2010 13:40 G2Wolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2010 13:32 ShadowDrgn wrote:
Jobless didn't show up so the admin gave Strifecro the win. Jobless apparently showed up 10 minutes later and complained?

Jobless's opponent ignored all communication for 30 minutes and then reported a win without playing.
Jobless was there trying to talk to him the entire time and we have proof that his opponent saw and ignored it. We wouldn't have the match reversed simply because of some player complaining about a noshow without enough proof to be 100% sure it was a fake result.


wait what? I was in the irc channel the whole time and on bnet looking for him. I added him to friends list through his identifier and the whole 20-30 minutes between those rounds he wasn't logged on. I asked you guys what to do and you guys gave me the defwin. How did i ignore all communication for 30 minutes?
csn_beef
Profile Joined July 2010
United States132 Posts
August 16 2010 05:03 GMT
#642
ShadowDrgn: Strifeco never responded to Jobless' messages. By the time we saw it, it was after two rounds had been played.

IdrA: If you don't want to play, that's fine. Your lack of respect towards casters, ESL staff, players, and sponsors makes you an insult to pro gamers. You said it best...

"you're a joke" - Silver vs IdrA IEM Cup I


I hope you enjoyed you stay at National ESL's IEM, you're done for the season.
CSN Head SC2 Admin
cyprin
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1105 Posts
August 16 2010 05:07 GMT
#643
On August 16 2010 14:03 esl-beef wrote:
ShadowDrgn: Strifeco never responded to Jobless' messages. By the time we saw it, it was after two rounds had been played.

IdrA: If you don't want to play, that's fine. Your lack of respect towards casters, ESL staff, players, and sponsors makes you an insult to pro gamers. You said it best...

Show nested quote +
"you're a joke" - Silver vs IdrA IEM Cup I


I hope you enjoyed you stay at National ESL's IEM, you're done for the season.


lol.
Raelcun
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States3747 Posts
August 16 2010 05:10 GMT
#644
Before the incoming shit storm I read the IEM's rules there are situations laid down for awarding points for bad manner and insults.. think they can probably quote enough of those to back up the season ban. Anyways commence to go nuts.
huameng
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States1133 Posts
August 16 2010 05:10 GMT
#645
On August 16 2010 14:03 esl-beef wrote:
ShadowDrgn: Strifeco never responded to Jobless' messages. By the time we saw it, it was after two rounds had been played.

IdrA: If you don't want to play, that's fine. Your lack of respect towards casters, ESL staff, players, and sponsors makes you an insult to pro gamers. You said it best...

Show nested quote +
"you're a joke" - Silver vs IdrA IEM Cup I


I hope you enjoyed you stay at National ESL's IEM, you're done for the season.


Did he do anything new? =\
skating
Myown
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada8 Posts
August 16 2010 05:11 GMT
#646
On August 16 2010 14:03 esl-beef wrote:
ShadowDrgn: Strifeco never responded to Jobless' messages. By the time we saw it, it was after two rounds had been played.

IdrA: If you don't want to play, that's fine. Your lack of respect towards casters, ESL staff, players, and sponsors makes you an insult to pro gamers. You said it best...

Show nested quote +
"you're a joke" - Silver vs IdrA IEM Cup I


I hope you enjoyed you stay at National ESL's IEM, you're done for the season.



Lol. That just made my day.
zerglingsfolife
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1694 Posts
August 16 2010 05:12 GMT
#647
Wow, this really sucks
Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. I shall take no wife, hold no lands, father no children. I shall wear no crown and win no glory. I shall live and die at my post. I am the sword in the darkness.
CaptnIgnit
Profile Joined May 2010
United States192 Posts
August 16 2010 05:16 GMT
#648
Anyone know exactly what happened? All I've heard is some unsportsman like conduct.
KamuL
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States154 Posts
August 16 2010 05:17 GMT
#649
chat log from ls's msn:

Nick says:
greg
you there?
IdrA says:
?
Nick says:
you gotta get
strifecro cheated
so you ahve to play vs bubba
get on*
IdrA says:
what
Nick says:
strifecro reported a fake win
IdrA says:
i already played all my matches
Nick says:
so he wasnt really vs you
yeah
IdrA says:
im not going to do another on that latency
Nick says:
but he wasnt supposed to
IdrA says:
cuz some admin was retarded
Nick says:
they're saying you're gonna get w.o'd T_T
IdrA says:
they had a caster in the match and we played 2 whole games
and they couldnt catch it?
fucking idiots
Nick says:
yep LOL
IdrA says:
im eating lunch now ill play it in an hour
Nick says:
ok
IdrA says:
tell them i said theyre fucking idiots too


he said he'll play o.o
IsAi.199 =) Roar
Doraemon.doraemon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States335 Posts
August 16 2010 05:20 GMT
#650
On August 16 2010 14:03 esl-beef wrote:
ShadowDrgn: Strifeco never responded to Jobless' messages. By the time we saw it, it was after two rounds had been played.

IdrA: If you don't want to play, that's fine. Your lack of respect towards casters, ESL staff, players, and sponsors makes you an insult to pro gamers. You said it best...

Show nested quote +
"you're a joke" - Silver vs IdrA IEM Cup I


I hope you enjoyed you stay at National ESL's IEM, you're done for the season.


there are unions in pro sports... like nba players union, nfl players union, epl players union ... there need to be an esports players union!!!
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-16 05:26:40
August 16 2010 05:21 GMT
#651
On August 16 2010 14:03 esl-beef wrote:
ShadowDrgn: Strifeco never responded to Jobless' messages. By the time we saw it, it was after two rounds had been played.

IdrA: If you don't want to play, that's fine. Your lack of respect towards casters, ESL staff, players, and sponsors makes you an insult to pro gamers. You said it best...

Show nested quote +
"you're a joke" - Silver vs IdrA IEM Cup I


I hope you enjoyed you stay at National ESL's IEM, you're done for the season.

i wasnt contacted about this at all till lastshadow msn's me, i tell him to tell you ill play in an hour, you can see the log that was posted.
but if you wanna add another bout of incompetency onto your record thats fine by me.
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I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
August 16 2010 05:22 GMT
#652
I obviously don't know the whole story, but how can a game be reported so easily and the next match go underway without some sort of checking?
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
Raelcun
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States3747 Posts
August 16 2010 05:22 GMT
#653
Idra kind of has a point, even though ESL admins can probably find enough instances of him insulting people ot tack on how ever many 3 point penalties they want.

So this could go either way
Tiorda
Profile Joined May 2010
United States91 Posts
August 16 2010 05:23 GMT
#654
I think it's funny that everyone jumps on the IdrA hatetrain when 3,000+ viewers saw BigT basically taunting and berating IdrA and when it came time for BigT to ask IdrA to cast his game he expected IdrA to say, "YEAH BRO!" after he gave him shit for a good two minutes in in game private messages. I'm not an IdrA apologist, but it's not like the streamer showed much professionalism in asking for a cast, regardless if BigT talked to Beef before hand or not.

On stream-chat, a lot of viewers were asking BigT to just stop whispering IdrA but he kept digging his grave instead of letting tournament organizers take care of it. I really don't want to give BigT too much shit, because he does a really good job when he's casting, but if you want to shoutcast matches with topnotch pros, especially ones as polarizing as IdrA (because obviously it's more viewership for you as well), act like a professional.

If someone had just spent a good few minutes BSing me and then asking for a cast I would have said to "f off" as well....not that anyone would want to watch my games =]
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 16 2010 05:23 GMT
#655
On August 16 2010 14:03 esl-beef wrote:
ShadowDrgn: Strifeco never responded to Jobless' messages. By the time we saw it, it was after two rounds had been played.

IdrA: If you don't want to play, that's fine. Your lack of respect towards casters, ESL staff, players, and sponsors makes you an insult to pro gamers. You said it best...

Show nested quote +
"you're a joke" - Silver vs IdrA IEM Cup I


I hope you enjoyed you stay at National ESL's IEM, you're done for the season.


What's insulting is the lack of organization in this tournament. How can a tournament organizer let two rounds be played (with a caster!) before catching something like this?

"you're a joke" - Silver vs IdrA IEM Cup I


Sums up the ESL quite well so far, no?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Sqq
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway2023 Posts
August 16 2010 05:26 GMT
#656
I don't see the problem at all. If he bad mouths fine, but it should in no way lead to a season ban. He even said he would play ? As stated before ESL has a so and so reputation already, they are just adding to their woes. I just hope they go back on this and try and run a good tournament instead of trying to run something that is starting to look like a power game. ESL screwed up with the guy who cheated, I understand IdrA would be annoyed specially when they didn't inform him right off the bat ?
Dead girls don't say no.
IronMonocle
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada142 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-16 05:31:07
August 16 2010 05:30 GMT
#657
TL Boycott of ESL imo
My armor is contempt. My shield is disgust. My sword is hatred.
stafu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia1196 Posts
August 16 2010 05:31 GMT
#658
I'm not exactly a fan of IdrA, but I can completely understand where he's coming from here. It's the admins' responsibility to keep track of stuff like this, and even more so to keep everyone involved informed of what's going on. The fact that IdrA wasn't even aware of the situation until Last Shadow informed him via MSN says a lot.
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-16 05:35:03
August 16 2010 05:33 GMT
#659
On August 16 2010 14:26 Sqq wrote:
I don't see the problem at all. If he bad mouths fine, but it should in no way lead to a season ban. He even said he would play ? As stated before ESL has a so and so reputation already, they are just adding to their woes. I just hope they go back on this and try and run a good tournament instead of trying to run something that is starting to look like a power game. ESL screwed up with the guy who cheated, I understand IdrA would be annoyed specially when they didn't inform him right off the bat ?


I agree here. Everyone will see this as an ESL screw up if tonight they don't have a rematch as Idra requested. If you lose the best player in the world due to your own lack of organization, then that is a pretty big screw up.
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SiguR
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada2039 Posts
August 16 2010 05:34 GMT
#660
I can't see how you can ask for someone as busy as Idra to re-play rounds he already progressed through because of organization error, regardless of any manners or lackthereof.

The second his match against strifeco was played, there can't be any backtracking imo. The onus was on the organizers to make sure it didn't happen.

And regardless, it seems a little unfair to imply strifeco acted improperly.
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