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On August 13 2009 20:21 genryou wrote:
Is Jaedong slumping? Or does the era of his domination has finally came to an end?
He isn't, he just had to prepare for a lot of different matchups and strats:
Last week of July/First week of August:
 Jaedong had to practice to play vs  Canata (both MnM and mech, has been using wraiths a lot since PianO rediscovered them), vs ZerO (one of the most boring zergs ever), vs EffOrt's S class ZvZ and vs sKyHigh who is just on fire and is able to cheese you. Oh and vs a no-name zerg named Orion, but JD most likely didn't practice at all, since after winning Day 1 he just had to be ready for EffOrt and Skyhigh in the Ace matches.
Out of these games, JD lost set 4 of the MSL day 2 to Canata who just looked demoralized, and fell to Orion's mindgames because his head wasn't set for the game. Heck, he looked just like every Set 1 in a Bo3 JD has ever played, or like the recent sAviOr.
2nd week of August:
OZ vs SKT T1 Grand Finals:
JD had to practice for game 1 against fantasy, who is possibly the most hyped player due to being the "next" terran in the SKT legacy, and JD had to prepare to face either an Oov macro-oriented build, a BoxeR micro cheese OR fantasy's very own build, on a map which allowed just about anything including fast tech switches for terran (something that you rarely expect, and more rarely see since on big maps like God's Garden you can just scout the new expo and see if your opponent is focusing on gas or minerals).
After practicing so much against so many possible strats in only ONE match vs fantasy, I'd expect JD to have gone on a lighter practice schedule to tackle Hyuk on Day 2.
I mean, "getting Hyuk'd" has become a standard term to define failure and noobish mistakes, Jaedong was confident in his JvZ that he went for 12hatch, the build which would have allowed him to just run over Hyuk with his trademark muta harass.
Unfortunately, one of the SKT coaches guessed JD's strat, and watching the unmicroed lings sit at JD's nat just reminded me of MuMyung.
Taking the fact that JD would have been OZ's ace player, the OZ coaches most likely had him practice AGAIN vs fantasy OR vs  Bisu, who are without the shadow of a doubt the number 2 and number 3-to-5 players in the world right now.
JD's spider senses were still resting from the Batoo OSL finals and he turned his ovie around just as it was about to scout fantasy's forward rax, thinking that he'd be facing a 1rax terran who was keeping his minerals possibly to expand at his mineral only to go heavy MnM later on, Jaedong did not expect the rush and fell to it.
If there is a flaw in JD's gameplay, other than he'd much rather go mass-whateverunithewasusing than switch tech, is that he sucks at rushing and fails even worse when he's being rushed. Something you'd just never expect from a micro-oriented aggressive zerg.
5 days (it was just 5 days, who would have thought?) after recovering from the losses and all the psychological pressure which ultimately didn't lead to success, JD had to face Calm, who seems to have finally bloomed in the last round of this PL season, has had plenty of time to go on a 2-week vacation and who since Luxury's slump has secured his spot as the number 3 ZvZ in the world.
Or possibly number 2, since Calm DID actually beat EffOrt very recently, on the 23rd of July once and on the 30th twice, bringing their record against eachother to 3-1 in favor of the guy with the glasses.
And after studying all these different playstyles he'd have to face tomorrow JD will have to play fantasy, yet again...
(my fingers... they hurt...  )
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Valhalla18444 Posts
hahaha im seriously laughing that jaedong lost to clam
i love jaedong but this rules so much
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I totally didn't realize these games were today. This is the possible best thing ever.
On the other hand, I'm pretty sure fantasy is now dead. And I really wanted to see Yarnc vs fantasy.
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joohyunee
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HIGH FIVE! Liquibet FTW
Vote with the heart, boys. Vote with the heart.
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I also belive JD have put all his focus on tomorrows game vs Fantasy.
Its simply impossible to preper for two different bo 5 series.
Now hopefully, JD comes well prepared for the ZvT and it should be some epic games.
Will he win, im not so sure. Jaedong have been pushed to the limit this season, and all his games might have been to much.
I hope not, and my heart is with Jaedong, but my money on Fantasy.
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I'm really not even mad right now, did you see Jaedong's micro, absolutely flawless. Plus champions win the osl, if I gave a sh*t about the msl I'd be a bisu fan; this rough patch will all be forgotten when Jaedong wins his golden mouse (also, I like calm, 3rd favorite player)
And --->r33k, did you just call Zero boring? wtf...
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Jaedong, losing a BO5, AGAINST A ZERG NO LESS?
Hahahahahah. That's kinda funny. And sad.
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I didn't watch the games, and it might just be that JD didn't practice for this, but I think the days of JvZ are over. It seems the top Zergs have gotten too good (probably from studying JD's games) for JD to win despite being at a BO disadvantage any more. It's going to suck if ZvZ between the top Zergs gets more luck-based; I used to enjoy watching JD pull off crazy wins against everyone.
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On August 13 2009 22:20 n.DieJokes wrote:
I'm really not even mad right now, did you see Jaedong's micro, absolutely flawless. Plus champions win the osl, if I gave a sh*t about the msl I'd be a bisu fan; this rough patch will all be forgotten when Jaedong wins his golden mouse (also, I like calm, 3rd favorite player)
And --->r33k, did you just call Zero boring? wtf...
lol sorry but i just can't stand watching Zero and by.hero unless it's a FPVOD of by.hero...
Old sAviOr fans will definitely understand...
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On August 13 2009 20:18 cablesc wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2009 20:07 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On August 13 2009 20:06 cablesc wrote:
Jaedong is going to get rolled if he brings this level of play vs Fantasy.
Fantasy Fighting. I really don't understand posts like this. JD (with the possible exception of game 2) really didn't make any mistakes. Sure, he's not playing at 120% like he usually is, but he wasn't by any means bad today. Come on. Getting fooled by hidden lings a couple times. Getting owned twice by +1 Mutas. Even that first game that Jaedong won could have been had by Calm if he didn't split his ling forces. JD hasn't played a "good" game since before the Pro League Finals. Think about it. Lost to Fantasy twice, despite being decidedly ahead in game one on Outsider (way ahead after Fantasy screwed up the sunken break). He lost to Hyuk on a greedy build order. And 4 games against Calm where JD was out-thought and out-maneuvered. Jaedong is 1-6 since he made the "Week of Jaedong" comment. So yeah, I think he needs to play a lot better if he wants to get by a top-of-the-world Fantasy that has done nothing but focus, scheme, and practice for Jaedong for the past few days.
You might be on to something.
Also, a reenactment of the series
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The best part was when Jaedong lost to Calm
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On August 13 2009 22:35 Nylan wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2009 20:18 cablesc wrote:On August 13 2009 20:07 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On August 13 2009 20:06 cablesc wrote:
Jaedong is going to get rolled if he brings this level of play vs Fantasy.
Fantasy Fighting. I really don't understand posts like this. JD (with the possible exception of game 2) really didn't make any mistakes. Sure, he's not playing at 120% like he usually is, but he wasn't by any means bad today. Come on. Getting fooled by hidden lings a couple times. Getting owned twice by +1 Mutas. Even that first game that Jaedong won could have been had by Calm if he didn't split his ling forces. JD hasn't played a "good" game since before the Pro League Finals. Think about it. Lost to Fantasy twice, despite being decidedly ahead in game one on Outsider (way ahead after Fantasy screwed up the sunken break). He lost to Hyuk on a greedy build order. And 4 games against Calm where JD was out-thought and out-maneuvered. Jaedong is 1-6 since he made the "Week of Jaedong" comment. So yeah, I think he needs to play a lot better if he wants to get by a top-of-the-world Fantasy that has done nothing but focus, scheme, and practice for Jaedong for the past few days. You might be on to something. Also, a reenactment of the series
Jaedong was taking a page out of Bisu's "Let me boast about myself as arrogantly as I can" mentality, only he was boasting even more than Bisu, because he felt even more invincible than Bisu has ever felt.
Firebathero, in the last MSL, also said that he would be the one to throw Jaedong into a permanent slump. He got knocked out by Jaedong that very MSL.
Savior said, going into the GOMTV S1 Finals that Bisu's biggest mistake was choosing Protoss as a race.
As we can see from history, bragging about oneself too much is generally bad karma 
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Despite the fact that Jaedong was never officially bonjwa, the possibility of him entering a slump sure feels like another bonjwa stepping down.
There's no dispute that he was* the best player for God knows how many months now.
*just noticed I used past tense.. o_o
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On August 13 2009 22:43 niteReloaded wrote:
Despite the fact that Jaedong was never officially bonjwa, the possibility of him entering a slump sure feels like another bonjwa stepping down.
There's no dispute that he was* the best player for God knows how many months now.
*just noticed I used past tense.. o_o
Like 3 or 4 months. Bisu was dominant for a far longer period of time in 2007, and nobody called him a bonjwa.
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nobody called him a bonjwa lol
I wonder how many threads show up when you search for "bisu bonjwa"
EDIT: yep, 20+ pages
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Wasn't this last year dominated by Jaedong and Bisu. Sure they didn't win all the individual leagues, but their win/loss ratio was ridiculous.
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I really don't know how Jaedong could be in good shape tomorrow after the match today...
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