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Ozarugold
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
2716 Posts
August 13 2009 15:29 GMT
#621
Haha! Woot! I love you Jaedong, but other zergs need to shine every once in a while~

Please Calm! Win this MSL~
this is my quote.
pR0gR4m3R
Profile Joined February 2008
Spain1446 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-13 15:32:40
August 13 2009 15:30 GMT
#622
It reminds me that kinda slump Flash had 2008 Q1 , he was in MSL and OSL semis, and lost both in two weeks, apart from losing Averatech Intel Classic vs JD in a surprising 3-0 way

And fantasy comes tomorrow, really everything comes in a bad moment for the tyrant


BTW, Calm is available in the "free agency" period, so better STX get money from their budget to maintain this valuable player

Well. STX need no money, they have their secret weapon to keep Calm in team happy

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StarCraft-ESP.com Admin - Spanish StarCraft Community
broz0rs
Profile Joined July 2008
United States2294 Posts
August 13 2009 15:36 GMT
#623
damn it, in regards to Liquibet I really wanted to change my vote after I saw JD's performance in Proleague. I think Fantasy is going to take him out too.
cgrinker
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3824 Posts
August 13 2009 15:48 GMT
#624
You know when you look at old single leagues from like four five years ago and you think about the people in the finals and you are like "Who are these people?"


Calm and probably Kwanro? WHat?
SimonB
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1088 Posts
August 13 2009 15:52 GMT
#625
I think the main reason I hate JD was the ZvZ dominance just seemed so unfair. The matchup is the weirdest in Starcraft by far; it's almost like a different game, so I disliked how he seemed to have such an advantage in tournaments and proleagues by basically having auto wins in the most annoying and least interesting matchup.

Glad to see that has eroded a little at least.
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
August 13 2009 15:54 GMT
#626
On August 14 2009 00:48 cgrinker wrote:
You know when you look at old single leagues from like four five years ago and you think about the people in the finals and you are like "Who are these people?"


Calm and probably Kwanro? WHat?

iris is the favorite over kwanro imo
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JIJIyO
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1957 Posts
August 13 2009 16:01 GMT
#627
Omg............fucking Calm denying us of a JD vs Iris finals =(

Oh well. Hopefully JD was practicing his heart out for OSL in order to get that golden mouse. Iris you better win the damn semis. Nobody wants to watch a lame Calm vs Kwanro finals lol.
KT_Violet
vaMpYr
Profile Joined July 2009
France119 Posts
August 13 2009 16:10 GMT
#628
On August 14 2009 00:52 SimonB wrote:
I think the main reason I hate JD was the ZvZ dominance just seemed so unfair. The matchup is the weirdest in Starcraft by far; it's almost like a different game, so I disliked how he seemed to have such an advantage in tournaments and proleagues by basically having auto wins in the most annoying and least interesting matchup.

Glad to see that has eroded a little at least.



zvz is maybe the hardest match in all starcraft (tvz and zvt are too ) . the most stressing match , the most micro match , the most "one gling make the game" match .

you should love jaedong for that , he successed in the hardest match up and in the biggest way possible .

i just hate Zergs with bad zvz ( kwanro , effort , luxury .. ) .

i loved calm for a while now , even i cried this morning for my jaedong , calm really really really played well , REALLY better than effort will ever do . zvz is getting harder and harder this times , and i think there will be notable changes in the near future . one player dominance is getting more and more impossible .

lets see about OSL and next season .
jaedong > flash in OSLs ; jaedong > flash in MSLs ; jaedong > flash in WCGs ; jaedong > flash in proleagues . what else ? NESPRESSO ( old quote =( )
imDerek
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1944 Posts
August 13 2009 16:12 GMT
#629
ouch jaedong
Least favorite progamers: Leta, Zero, Mind, Shine, free, really <-- newly added
hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
August 13 2009 16:12 GMT
#630
CALM BABY for the MSL
Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
Gumbo
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada807 Posts
August 13 2009 16:23 GMT
#631
Props to Calm.
Si vis pacem, para bellum.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8171 Posts
August 13 2009 16:25 GMT
#632
Calm <3


he played so well. I'm so proud of him for making it to the finals.

OMGTHISISSOAWESOME
Free Palestine
Kyuki
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden1867 Posts
August 13 2009 16:27 GMT
#633
I have a hard time letting this go - I feeeeeeeeeeeeeeel soo much for Jaedong. I'm just so afraid for him..

I'm sure calm played a great series (havnt watched yet), but I just cant help but feel afraid..

JD I STILL BELIVE! LEE JAEDONG HWATING!
Mada Mada Dane
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36401 Posts
August 13 2009 16:30 GMT
#634
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36401 Posts
August 13 2009 16:31 GMT
#635
On August 13 2009 23:37 ghrur wrote:
Sigh.
Will JD never win a MSL?
Unless the GomTV MBC Starleague counted as one... lol

Jaedong already won an MSL...
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
August 13 2009 16:34 GMT
#636
GOD damn jaedong slumping for rela!!!
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36401 Posts
August 13 2009 16:37 GMT
#637
"Jaedong's not 100%! He would win if he had practice time!"

Please, every top player has to deal with conflicting practice schedules. If he was good enough, if he was B-word material, he'd deal with it and make both finals. But he couldn't so he's not that level -- its nothing to be ashamed about, nobody is that good nowadays.

As for practicing for a ZvZ Bo5, Jaedong has been practicing all season on these maps ZvZ. Jaedong's ZvZ has slipped, and Calm played great. Give credit to Calm for winning, and stop putting it all on practice time differential.
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Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
August 13 2009 16:40 GMT
#638
On August 14 2009 01:10 vaMpYr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2009 00:52 SimonB wrote:
I think the main reason I hate JD was the ZvZ dominance just seemed so unfair. The matchup is the weirdest in Starcraft by far; it's almost like a different game, so I disliked how he seemed to have such an advantage in tournaments and proleagues by basically having auto wins in the most annoying and least interesting matchup.

Glad to see that has eroded a little at least.



zvz is maybe the hardest match in all starcraft (tvz and zvt are too ) . the most stressing match , the most micro match , the most "one gling make the game" match .

you should love jaedong for that , he successed in the hardest match up and in the biggest way possible .

i just hate Zergs with bad zvz ( kwanro , effort , luxury .. ) .

i loved calm for a while now , even i cried this morning for my jaedong , calm really really really played well , REALLY better than effort will ever do . zvz is getting harder and harder this times , and i think there will be notable changes in the near future . one player dominance is getting more and more impossible .

lets see about OSL and next season .


ARE YOU FUCKING HIGH?

Effort has over 60% in EVERY matchup. He's beaten Jaedong in a BO3. He handily DEMOLISHED Great in the Ace match of the 2nd CJ-KHAN match. Effort's got great ZvZ (obviously not as good as JD, losing to him in the CJ-Oz matches), and he's got great everything. The only reason Calm is currently looking better is because he had a significantly easier road to the finals. What the fuck have you been smoking dude?
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
cosiant
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada616 Posts
August 13 2009 16:46 GMT
#639
Jaedong should have lost the first game, maybe then he would have won.
Member of the "Fuck yeah, Canata!" committee!
uglymoose89
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States671 Posts
August 13 2009 16:54 GMT
#640
Holy craaaaap Calm is gonna win this MSL! O man he totally owned JD.
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