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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
On August 13 2009 20:08 5unrise wrote:
Jaedong will win, theres no other possible outcome. Even if he has just one sunken and a drone left vs a 200/200 T we will always assume he will win in the end!! Until the moment GG is typed, there's no question that his drone will own the whole T army. Got that?
huh?
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Korea (South)3086 Posts
I hope we get an epic TvZ final. GoGo IRIS!
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At least he lost to someone good. =/
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Baa?21245 Posts
Calm is 76% vT this year, with wins against Flash and Fantasy.
Calm for Avalon MSL 2009 champion~!!!
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Honestly I'm not sure if Iris caught a break or not with JD losing this.
But I'm going to assume that you gotta prefer to face Calm in the finals than a seasoned finals veteran like Jaedong, no matter what, especially when you yourself are an old veteran like Iris who has gone deep in leagues multiple times (and really really really should have won Daum).
On the other hand, if Kwanro makes it ... I can't imagine any scenario outside of Calm absolutely rolling him.
Iris will never ever get a better chance than this. He MUST seize this opportunity, because if he loses, not only will he almost certainly never make it this far again, but he'll also likely end up on the losing end of a THIRD incredible ZvT moment that partly (in the Savior game 5 Arkanoid case) or completely (in the GGPlay case) defined a career.
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On August 13 2009 19:18 GTR wrote:
JD getting the JD treatment here.
Calm for the next two.
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Such a change in bandwagons.
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edit: whoops!!! jaedong better beat fantasy now or i will call him a slumper
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On August 13 2009 20:07 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2009 20:06 cablesc wrote:
Jaedong is going to get rolled if he brings this level of play vs Fantasy.
Fantasy Fighting. I really don't understand posts like this. JD (with the possible exception of game 2) really didn't make any mistakes. Sure, he's not playing at 120% like he usually is, but he wasn't by any means bad today.
Come on. Getting fooled by hidden lings a couple times. Getting owned twice by +1 Mutas. Even that first game that Jaedong won could have been had by Calm if he didn't split his ling forces.
JD hasn't played a "good" game since before the Pro League Finals. Think about it. Lost to Fantasy twice, despite being decidedly ahead in game one on Outsider (way ahead after Fantasy screwed up the sunken break). He lost to Hyuk on a greedy build order. And 4 games against Calm where JD was out-thought and out-maneuvered. Jaedong is 1-6 since he made the "Week of Jaedong" comment.
So yeah, I think he needs to play a lot better if he wants to get by a top-of-the-world Fantasy that has done nothing but focus, scheme, and practice for Jaedong for the past few days.
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On August 13 2009 20:13 SilverskY wrote:
I hope we get two epic TvZ final. GoGo IRIS!
OSL too man D:
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On August 13 2009 20:18 cablesc wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2009 20:07 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On August 13 2009 20:06 cablesc wrote:
Jaedong is going to get rolled if he brings this level of play vs Fantasy.
Fantasy Fighting. I really don't understand posts like this. JD (with the possible exception of game 2) really didn't make any mistakes. Sure, he's not playing at 120% like he usually is, but he wasn't by any means bad today. Come on. Getting fooled by hidden lings a couple times. Getting owned twice by +1 Mutas. Even that first game that Jaedong won could have been had by Calm if he didn't split his ling forces. JD hasn't played a "good" game since before the Pro League Finals. Think about it. Lost to Fantasy twice, despite being decidedly ahead in game one on Outsider (way ahead after Fantasy screwed up the sunken break). He lost to Hyuk on a greedy build order. And 4 games against Calm where JD was out-thought and out-maneuvered. Jaedong is 1-6 since he made the "Week of Jaedong" comment. So yeah, I think he needs to play a lot better if he wants to get by a top-of-the-world Fantasy that has done nothing but focus, scheme, and practice for Jaedong for the past few days.
Week of JD was the week before PL finals.
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On August 13 2009 20:15 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Calm is 76% vT this year, with wins against Flash and Fantasy.
Calm for Avalon MSL 2009 champion~!!!
Iris is 73.33% vZ this year, with wins vs effort ... uh... 45[Name]? Hyuk? Juni?
Damn.
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Is Jaedong slumping? Or does the era of his domination has finally came to an end?
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Korea (South)3086 Posts
On August 13 2009 20:19 integral wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2009 20:15 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Calm is 76% vT this year, with wins against Flash and Fantasy.
Calm for Avalon MSL 2009 champion~!!! Iris is 73.33% vZ this year, with wins vs effort ... uh... 45[Name]? Hyuk? Juni? Damn.
He + Show Spoiler + the one of the hottest ZvT'ers this season. It's gotta mean something. And besides Iris has been playing like a beast in all MU's recently. Rooting for the ol' veteran.
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I still stand by the statement that if Jaedong practises solely for 1 league he would have demolished Calm and probably anybody . Better preparation = better results at this level , you can't expect JD to win every game especially when you have a second Bo5 the day after . You can't prepare for both equally , just raw skill wouldn't cut it . Calm's builds were very intelligent and well prepared for the specific map , while Jaedong's builds were plain ordinary , but i disagree with people claiming that Jaedong is just a mechanical player just look at his series against Canata game 2 and 3 were very well prepared and strategic games .
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On August 13 2009 20:19 Avidkeystamper wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2009 20:18 cablesc wrote:On August 13 2009 20:07 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On August 13 2009 20:06 cablesc wrote:
Jaedong is going to get rolled if he brings this level of play vs Fantasy.
Fantasy Fighting. I really don't understand posts like this. JD (with the possible exception of game 2) really didn't make any mistakes. Sure, he's not playing at 120% like he usually is, but he wasn't by any means bad today. Come on. Getting fooled by hidden lings a couple times. Getting owned twice by +1 Mutas. Even that first game that Jaedong won could have been had by Calm if he didn't split his ling forces. JD hasn't played a "good" game since before the Pro League Finals. Think about it. Lost to Fantasy twice, despite being decidedly ahead in game one on Outsider (way ahead after Fantasy screwed up the sunken break). He lost to Hyuk on a greedy build order. And 4 games against Calm where JD was out-thought and out-maneuvered. Jaedong is 1-6 since he made the "Week of Jaedong" comment. So yeah, I think he needs to play a lot better if he wants to get by a top-of-the-world Fantasy that has done nothing but focus, scheme, and practice for Jaedong for the past few days. Week of JD was the week before PL finals.
If you read his quote, he clearly means than the "Week of Jaedong" refers to the Pro-league finals and the Round of 4 in the individual leagues:
The fans have been very worried about me. Since I have been playing many games in the proleague, they worried that I might carelessly leave out the individual leagues but since I have advanced, I will show my good form in the round of 4. Since the very important proleague is left, I will make this week the "Week of Jaedong".
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=98851
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Damn this makes things so complicated. I'm going to assume that Iris will win vs Kwanro(im sure almost everyone does). I want Iris to win this thing because he's like Leta, very good, but not good enough to win titles. Yes hes better than Leta, Bisu vs Iris proved that. Calm on the other hand, an MSL title will give his future a HUGE boost in confidence. Considering he defeated an emotionally drained JD and a stubborn Effort, I say he's the 3rd Zerg right now(behind JD and Yarnc ofcourse).
Bottom line:
I can't choose between Calm and Iris. They're too likeable. Anyway, GL to them both.
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Jaedong has obviously over-worked himself, and its showing. No way a 100% Jaedong would lose a Bo5 ZvZ. Ever. I suspect Fantasy will also roll him tomorrow. I just hope that Yarnac crushes Fantasy like a bug 3-0 in the finals. Just the comedy value in him one-upping his twin brother will be gold.
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me and 136 other geniuses knew better than all!
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Iris was always good enough to win titles - he just ALWAYS met some rabid Zerg that had 1 upped him at the most critical moment 
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EPT
