Ugandan Anti-Homosexuality Bill - resurgence - Page 30

Klondikebar

United States2227 Posts

November 29 2012 05:03 GMT

#581

ARighttomorals has taken it to PM's apparently:

you dont have anything that's based on facts. you just keep spewing party lines mindlessly out of your mouth without having done any critical thinking at ALL on the subject. I can tell when a person has done that. Your poor arguments and lack of understanding what you yourself are saying tells me.

This is when you know someone is desperately clinging to a losing argument. They can no longer face public scrutiny. They have to bully people out of the public eye and hope they shut up.

heliusx

United States2306 Posts

November 29 2012 05:11 GMT

#582

On November 29 2012 14:03 Klondikebar wrote:
ARighttomorals has taken it to PM's apparently:

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This is when you know someone is desperately clinging to a losing argument. They can no longer face public scrutiny. They have to bully people out of the public eye and hope they shut up.

he's projecting the faults of his argument onto you. how cute.

Scorcher2k

United States802 Posts

November 29 2012 05:28 GMT

#583

On November 29 2012 13:23 Arighttomorals wrote:

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Do you believe in democracy? If the majority of Uganda signs the idea into law, will you still complain? After all, it was democratically decided for. If you think it's gone way off course, you've read half of the last page. I covered both the content and the ad hominems of "homophobia and fear" directed at myself. Others kept driving those points, and I responded solely to those, as they ignored my OT points.

You know that simply because a majority of people vote in something that does not make it right... The supreme court has overturned many laws in our country. Simply because their country is being occupied by more biggoted people than not doesn't make it correct.

Arighttomorals

20 Posts

November 29 2012 08:44 GMT

#584

On November 29 2012 14:28 Scorcher2k wrote:

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That is absolutely correct. The beliefs of the majority arent necessarily infallible, and NEITHER are the beliefs of minorities. I had all this crap told to me in "human development" during the "let's celebrate diversity and acceptance of different values and beliefs!" song and dance, but really, the native american was subsumed by the cultural values of europeans. Instead of waiting for them to be late to bus stops, they forced buses to leave on time, thus forcing the cultural value of time out of the native american. This is clear supression and dissolvement of another culture's beliefs, and why? Because it was more profitable and useful to have them on time. You should read the book "http://www.amazon.com/Silent-Language-Edward-T-Hall/dp/0385055498"

I have this book. here's the reality. Any cultures that have differing values MUST give up quite a few of those cultural DIVERSITIES to fit into american life. Imagine if everyone stayed true to their own immigrant culture's home country values. Nothing would get done. People would be late, early, and fighting constantly. I mean, we already see this kind of fighting on construction sites as normal. But imagine, that the baseline of this simple cultural concept, Time, is actually derived from European sense, and will continue to be so, as it was the dominant culture, and the spectre of that culture is forever going to hold a grasp on many of the values we take for granted, that other people must internalize in order to survive in america.

There was also a pretty bullshit part that tried to analogize diversity to a symphony, with all the different instruments playing a part and making "beautiful music". Well, when you play a single instrument, it only works with one note at a time unless it's a stringed instrument, and not a double bass or bass guitar. Those instruments are such low frequency as to have their sound clarity muddied and lost, leading to unpleasant noise, if the other strings aren't Silenced when plucking another one. The analogy is pretty crap due to the fact that you must suppress strings on certain instruments for them to make conchordant noise, and other instruments must be allowed to ring multiple strings freely.

By the way, your moral views, and your beliefs, those are coming from a majority view. Otherwise you'd be in a minority and crying about being oppressed. How do you know your beliefs are correct? Just because many people believe like you?

On November 29 2012 14:03 Klondikebar wrote:
ARighttomorals has taken it to PM's apparently:

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This is when you know someone is desperately clinging to a losing argument. They can no longer face public scrutiny. They have to bully people out of the public eye and hope they shut up.

Not at all. You look like a fool going "Waaahh... See what he said to me everyone?!". Pandering is the tool of tools.

Cheerio

Ukraine3178 Posts

November 29 2012 18:42 GMT

#585

Arighttomorals is clearly a new account of someone who got banned in recent moral discussions on TL (in this very thread most likely).

Reason

United Kingdom2770 Posts

November 29 2012 19:39 GMT

#586

Regardless, he provided some light entertainment