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Amber[LighT]

United States5078 Posts

May 02 2008 17:05 GMT

#5241

On May 02 2008 11:23 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
ANYONE WHO DOESN'T VOTE IS AN STX_CHILD FAN

Problem solved.

This sounds like a threat mafia would say

hrm all aboard the Shallow[bay] lynching train? :D

ShaLLoW[baY]

Canada12499 Posts

May 02 2008 22:19 GMT

#5242

On May 03 2008 02:05 Amber[LighT] wrote:

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This sounds like a threat mafia would say

hrm all aboard the Shallow[bay] lynching train? :D

Sorry, this train derailed into a river. Unfortunate, n'est-ce pas?

Chuiu

3470 Posts

May 03 2008 06:36 GMT

#5243

[noClueArea]
So like there was these two guys and they were like set to be hung n stuff but like when they were both hung the town was like omg wtf becuz like one of them was mafia but like the other totally wasn't. So everyone like could totally see how LoStYouRSkiLLS was a towny and ieatkids5 was a mafia.

Everyone who has a special role and chooses to use it please send it to me via PM. Mafia this includes you!

MTF

United States1739 Posts

May 03 2008 06:49 GMT

#5244

Like, I totally called it.

Well, at least that checks off Mr. White.

MTF

United States1739 Posts

May 03 2008 07:04 GMT

#5245

Updated lists. Voting records revamped and updated in later post.

Lists:

Mandalor List:
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01-ShaLLoW[baY]
02-SoMuchBetter
03-Eti307
06-clazziquai
17-randombum { Pardoner }
21-Alethios
27-nemY
28-ZBiR
31-Energies
34-RtS)Night[Mare
36-Unforgiven_ve
39-Romance_us
42-SonuvBob
43-NatsuTerran
48-qrs
50-Artanis[Xp]
52-iNfuNdiBuLuM
56-Camlito
58-Lysithea
59-fanatacist
60-SoleSteeler
67-0cz3c
71-GeneralStan
78-BWdero
82-Ninja4ever.
85-ahrara_
87-Pangolin
89-butidigress
91-Scorch
92-Jimtudor
97-suresh0t
103-SpiritoftheTuna

Total: 32 people, 8 Mafia. Ratio is an even 1/4.

People Not On Mandalor List:
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HotZhot
Dr.Dragoon
CDRdude
So no fek
Fen
Wizard
imDerek
Puosu
infinity21
Alventenie
SiZ.Fantasy
Amber[Light]
Vharox
fgsvsd
KF91
MasterOfChaos
LTT
str
Kuja900
araav
More_Minerals
LostYourSkills
Heros)Pink
Korvspad
Bockit
Ziel
Hollander
Supah
jtan
Spoinka
DamageControl
omfghi2u2
RowdierBob
AmorVincitOmnia
Wysp
Bugzltoonl
DTDominion
rpf

Total: 37 people, 3 or 4 (depending on the Showtime! list results) mafia. Ratio is a dismal 1/12 or nearly 1/9.

Ace

United States16096 Posts

May 03 2008 07:09 GMT

#5246

I'm role blocked for Day/Night 9.

MTF

United States1739 Posts

May 03 2008 07:10 GMT

#5247

Edit: Added to later post.

Alethios

New Zealand2765 Posts

May 03 2008 08:00 GMT

#5248

MTF called the twilight results. Could it be because he already knew?

imDerek

United States1944 Posts

May 03 2008 08:20 GMT

#5249

wooo 1/2 not bad , beter than my liquidbet

MTF

United States1739 Posts

May 03 2008 08:23 GMT

#5250

On May 03 2008 17:00 Alethios wrote:
MTF called the twilight results. Could it be because he already knew?

Yes. I am an all-seeing seer who saw with seasoned sights the suspects.

Sorry, just read a blog thread about tongue-twisters.

Anyway, gonna edit out all but the lists from what I posted above into a more complete version lower.

MTF

United States1739 Posts

May 03 2008 08:25 GMT

#5251

Voting records revamped and updated, alongside new conclusions in regards to known mafia voting patterns. Remember, I'm only counting no vote/abstain votes for those who still voted at least once after the Mayoral election.

Known Mafia Voting Patterns:
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ieatkids5/Mr. White:

Mayoral vote: No vote.
Day 2: Mandalor
Day 3: Ghar, no second vote.
Day 4: Abstain.
Day 5: Evilmonkey and Siefu.
Day 6: Crazie-Penguin

L/Enigma:

Mayoral vote: Randombum
Day 2: Mandalor
Day 3: Wurm, no second vote.
Day 4: TranceStorm
Day 5: Evilmonkey and Siefu
Day 6: Nemy (for giggles)

Crazie-Penguin/King Mountain Snake:

Mayoral Vote: Randombum
Day 2: Abstain
Day 3: Abstain
Day 4: Abstain
Day 5: No vote.
Day 6: L, died during this vote.

BlindAlbino/Black Mamba:

Mayoral vote: Randombum *switched to near the end*
Day 2: str
Day 3: str and Energies
Day 4: araav
Day 5: Evilmonkey and Siefu

Mandalor/Sword Charmer:

Mayoral vote: Ace
Day 2: Abstain, died during this vote.

Queasy/Sidewinder:

Mayoral vote: Randombum *switched to near the end*
Day 2: No vote.
Day 3: No vote.
Day 4: No vote, died this cycle.

d.arkive/Taipan Snake:

Mayoral vote: Last Romantic
Day 2: No vote.
Day 3: Bumatlarge, no second vote.
Day 4: No vote.
Day 5: Died this cycle.

Evilmonkey/Mr. Red:

Mayoral vote: No vote.
Day 2: Ghar
Day 3: Ace, and abstain.
Day 4: Abstain
Day 5: Died this cycle.

Known Mafia Total:
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Mayoral vote:
Randombum - 4
Ace - 1
Last Romantic - 1
No vote - 1

Day 2:
Abstain or no vote - 4
Mandalor - 2 (8 others for sure)
Ghar - 1
str - 1

Day 3:
Abstain or no vote - 2
Ghar - 1
Wurm - 1
Ace - 1
Bumatlarge - 1
str - 1
Energies - 1

Day 4:
Abstain or no vote - 5
araav - 1
TranceStorm - 1

Day 5:
No vote - 2
Evilmonkey/Siefu - 3

Day 6:
L - 1
Nemy - 1
Crazie-Penguin - 1

Major Suspect Voting Patterns:
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suresh0t:

Mayoral vote: Randombum
Day 2: Mandalor
Day 3: Wurm, no second vote.
Day 4: Abstain.
Day 5: Evilmonkey and Siefu.
Day 6: No vote.
Day 7: L and Ulszz
Day 8: No vote.

Ninja4ever.:

Mayoral vote: Randombum
Day 2: Mandalor
Day 3: Wurm, no second vote.
Day 4: No vote.
Day 5: No vote.
Day 6: No vote.
Day 7: No vote.
Day 8: Abstain.

0cz3c:

Mayoral vote: Randombum
Day 2: Mandalor
Day 3: Ghar, no second vote.
Day 4: No vote.
Day 5: No vote.
Day 6: No vote.
Day 7: No vote.
Day 8: No vote.

Clazziquai:

Mayoral vote: Randombum
Day 2: Mandalor
Day 3: Wurm, no second vote.
Day 4: No vote.
Day 5: No vote.
Day 6: L
Day 7: L, no second vote.
Day 8: LostYourSkills and ieatkids5

nemY:

Mayoral vote: Empyrean
Day 2: Mandalor
Day 3: Showtime!
Day 4: No vote, seemed to miss the count.
Day 5: Bugzitooni, no second vote.
Day 6: L
Day 7: L and Ulszz
Day 8: LostYourSkills and ieatkids5

Ziel:

Mayoral vote: Ghar
Day 2: No vote.
Day 3: Abstain.
Day 4: No vote.
Day 5: No vote.
Day 6: No vote.
Day 7: No vote.
Day 8: No vote.

Spoinka:

Mayoral vote: Ace
Day 2: No vote.
Day 3: No vote.
Day 4: No vote.
Day 5: No vote.
Day 6: No vote.
Day 7: No vote.
Day 8: No vote.

jtan:

Mayoral vote: No vote.
Day 2: No vote.
Day 3: No vote.
Day 4: No vote.
Day 5: No vote.
Day 6: No vote.
Day 7: No vote.
Day 8: No vote.

DamageControl:

Mayoral vote: No vote.
Day 2: No vote.
Day 3: No vote.
Day 4: No vote.
Day 5: No vote.
Day 6: No vote.
Day 7: No vote.
Day 8: No vote.

Dr.Dragoon:

Mayoral vote: Randombum *first vote*
Day 2: Kuja900 *who voted for him*
Day 3: Abstain.
Day 4: Abstain.
Day 5: No vote.
Day 6: L
Day 7: No vote.
Day 8: LostYourSkills and Clazziquai

Lysithea:

Mayoral vote: Randombum
Day 2: Mandalor
Day 3: Wurm, no second vote.
Day 4: Abstain.
Day 5: Evilmonkey, Siefu
Day 6: Dr.Dragoon *first vote*
Day 7: No vote.
Day 8: LostYourSkills, no second vote.

SoMuchBetter:

Mayoral vote: No vote.
Day 2: Mandalor
Day 3: No vote.
Day 4: No vote.
Day 5: No vote.
Day 6: No vote.
Day 7: No vote.
Day 8: No vote.

ZBiR:

Mayoral vote: Fusion
Day 2: Mandalor
Day 3: Wurm, BlindAlbino
Day 4: No vote.
Day 5: No vote.
Day 6: No vote.
Day 7: No vote.
Day 8: LostYourSkills and ieatkids5

str:

Mayoral vote: No vote.
Day 2: No vote.
Day 3: No vote.
Day 4: No vote.
Day 5: No vote.
Day 6: No vote.
Day 7: No vote.
Day 8: No vote.

Artanis[xP]:

Mayoral vote: Ace
Day 2: Mandalor
Day 3: Wurm, no second vote.
Day 4: No vote.
Day 5: Evilmonkey, Siefu
Day 6: Crazie-Penguin
Day 7: L and Ulszz
Day 8: LostYourSkills and ieatkids5

RtS)Night[Mare:

Mayoral vote: Empyrean
Day 2: Mandalor
Day 3: Ghar, Showtime!
Day 4: Abstain.
Day 5: Evilmonkey, Siefu
Day 6: Crazie-Penguin
Day 7: L and Ulszz
Day 8: LostYourSkills and ieatkids5

Major Suspect Summary:
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People who never voted, ever: 3

Mayoral vote:
Randombum - 6
Ace - 2
Fusion - 1
Empyrean - 2
Ghar - 1

(no votes/abstains from this point won't include Spoinka who never voted after Mayoral election)

Day 2:
Mandalor - 10 (Only 8 can possibly be Mafia)
Kuja900 - 1

Day 3:
Wurm - 6
Showtime! - 2 (Only 1 can possibly be Mafia)
Ghar - 2
BlindAlbino - 1
No vote - 1

Day 4:
No vote/abstain - 12

Day 5:
No vote/abstain - 7
Evilmonkey/Siefu - 4
Siefu - 1
Bugzitooni - 1

Day 6:
No vote/abstain - 6
Crazie-Penguin - 2
L - 3
Dr.Dragoon - 1
Nemy - 1

Day 7:
No vote/abstain - 5
L - 5
Ulszz - 4

Day 8:
No vote/abstain - 5
LostYourSkills - 7
ieatkids5 - 5

Suspect Numbers (Combined Mafia/suspects):
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No votes/no votes after mayoral election: 5 (1 mafia, 4 suspects)

Mayoral vote: Randombum - 10 (4 Mafia, 6 suspects)
Day 2: Mandalor - 12 (2 Mafia (of 10), 10 suspects (8 possible))
Day 3: Scattered votes.
Day 4: No vote/abstain - 17 (4 Mafia, 13 suspects)
Day 5 and onwards: Mafia are not avoiding lynching other mafia if the town seems swayed overall to do so anyway.

Personal Conclusion of Known Mafia Voting Patterns:
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Mayoral vote: Seems favored towards Randombum.

Day 2: Half voted Mandalor for sure, the others we've found have been scattered.

Day 3: Everyone seems scattered, probably intentionally as a result of the Mandalor list getting DT'ed. Also note that no mafia other than BlindAlbino so far used both of their votes; they all either abstained completely, didn't vote, or voted for one person and then abstained/didn't use their second vote.

Day 4: Most seemed to have taken the safe route and abstained along with the majority of town.

Day 5: With DT's gone, 3 of the 5 mafia still living took down Evilmonkey despite knowing he was mafia. I noted that without lists to worry about, mafia will probably vote alongside town in general with a few outliers to prevent themselves from being pegged too easily.

Day 6: No real pattern here, except that it should be noted that both L and Crazie-Penguin were voted for by fellow mafia members.

Scorch

Austria3371 Posts

May 03 2008 10:59 GMT

#5252

Man, I suck at voting. Who's next?

Plexa

Aotearoa39261 Posts

May 03 2008 11:04 GMT

#5253

sorry town...

Associate discovered conclusive proof that LYS was innocent but i was too slow in relaying that information

MTF

United States1739 Posts

May 03 2008 12:48 GMT

#5254

I'm bored, so as a kind of random thread to pick up, I've taken everybody who voted for Randombum out from the Mandalor list and inspected their voting records a little more closely in association with personally assumed Mafia trends.

My reasoning for this is surely obvious by now; half of the Mafia we've caught so far voted for Randombum. This is especially relevant because three of those four switched to Randombum near the very end, thus nearly boosting (just two votes from tying) Randombum into the Mayor position. Alongside that, five others who voted for Randombum are high up on my (and some are on others) suspect list. Those being:

Ninja4ever. as Mr. Blonde
suresh0t as The Wolf
Clazziquai as Mr. Orange
Unforgiven_ve as Joe
0cz3c as Copperhead

So, without further wait, I present you with lots of circumstantial evidence that might amount to absolute worthlessness. But, I'm hoping not. : x

+ Show Spoiler [Mandalor/Randombum List:] +

Mandalor list that voted Randombum/Are Randombum: 11 people. (8 Mafia remain in Mandalor list total)
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clazziquai
randombum
Unforgiven_ve
iNfuNdiBuLuM
Lysithea
fanatacist
0cz3c
GeneralStan
BWdero
Ninja4ever.
suresh0t

Day 3 - Majority of Mafia votes have been scattered, along with 2 abstains.
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clazziquai - Wurm, no second vote.
randombum - Wurm, no second vote.
Unforgiven_ve - No vote.
iNfuNdiBuLuM - Ghar and Showtime!
Lysithea - Wurm, no second vote.
fanatacist - Bumatlarge and Ghar.
0cz3c - Ghar, no second vote.
GeneralStan - Wurm and Ghar.
BWdero - Wurm, no second vote.
Ninja4ever - .Wurm, no second vote.
suresh0t - Wurm, no second vote.

Day 4 - Most Mafia abstained/didn't vote.
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clazziquai - No vote.
randombum - Abstain.
Unforgiven_ve - Abstain.
iNfuNdiBuLuM - No vote.
Lysithea - Abstain.
fanatacist - Abstain.
0cz3c - No vote.
GeneralStan - No vote.
BWdero - Abstain.
Ninja4ever. - No vote.
suresh0t - Abstain.

Day 5 - Almost equally split between those voting for Evilmonkey/Siefu and those not voting.
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clazziquai - No vote.
randombum - No vote.
Unforgiven_ve - Evilmonkey and Siefu
iNfuNdiBuLuM - No vote.
Lysithea - Evilmonkey and Siefu
fanatacist - No vote.
0cz3c - No vote.
GeneralStan - No vote.
BWdero - No vote.
Ninja4ever. - No vote.
suresh0t - Evilmonkey and Siefu

Day 6 - Known votes are scattered. One mafia voted for L, another voted for Crazie-Penguin, and the last voted nemY.
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clazziquai - L
randombum - Abstain. (???)
Unforgiven_ve - Crazie-Penguin
iNfuNdiBuLuM - Crazie-Penguin
Lysithea - Dr. Dragoon
fanatacist - No vote.
0cz3c - No vote.
GeneralStan - No vote.
BWdero - No vote.
Ninja4ever. - No vote.
suresh0t - No vote.

Day 7 - No known Mafia voted.
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clazziquai - L, no second vote.
randombum - No vote.
Unforgiven_ve - L and Ninja4ever.
iNfuNdiBuLuM - No vote.
Lysithea - No vote.
fanatacist - L and Ulszz
0cz3c - No vote.
GeneralStan - No vote.
BWdero - No vote.
Ninja4ever. - No vote.
suresh0t - L and Ulszz

Day 8 - No known Mafia voted.
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clazziquai - LostYourSkills and ieatkids5
randombum - LostYourSkills and ieatkids5
Unforgiven_ve - LostYourSkills and Ninja4ever.
iNfuNdiBuLuM - LostYourSkills and ieatkids5
Lysithea - LostYourSkills, no second vote.
fanatacist - Abstained.
0cz3c - No vote.
GeneralStan - No vote.
BWdero - LostYourSkills, no second vote.
Ninja4ever. - Abstained.
suresh0t - No vote.

General Notes/Conclusions:
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clazziquai:

Suspected primarily as Mr. Orange. Votes match up with general observed Mafia activity.

randombum:

No ties to specific Mafia. Only really suspected for Mafia voting so much for him. Votes generally match up to observed Mafia activity.

Unforgiven_ve:

Personal suspect for Joe. Some matches in voting record, though records do seem pro-town in general. Voted for Ninja4ever. last two double lynches, possibly to allay suspicion in his direction if we take Ninja out and he turns up red.

iNfuNdiBuLuM:

Suspect for California Mountain Snake. Mafia voting patterns match somewhat; his activity seems erratic. It is worth noting that among these select people, he is the only one also in the Showtime! list, which are 1/7 odds of Mafia, compared to Mandalor lists' overall 1/4 chance of Mafia.

Lysithea:

Light ties to Mr. Pink. Voted perfectly according to general Mafia trends thus far, as well as having a somewhat controversial voting record the past three days: voting Dr.Dragoon while Penguin was on the docket, not voting the next day, and then voting only for LostYourSkills Day 8. That would be a pretty stupid move to make at this point, however, so maybe this is a false thread.

fanatacist:

Light ties to Joe. Voting goes with general Mafia trends thus far.

0cz3c:

Suspect for Copperhead. Has not voted 'since the third day, despite being active in the thread afterwards.

GeneralStan:

Very general suspect. Hasn't voted 'since the third day.

BWdero:

No ties to any Mafia. Abstained Day 4 and then proceeded not to vote until Day 8, during which he only voted for LostYourSkills.

Ninja4ever.:

Suspect for Mr. Blonde. Stopped voting on Day 3. Voted again on Day 8, but only to abstain.

suresh0t:

Suspect for The Wolf. Erratic voting record. Generally matches known Mafia patterns for those days he did vote.

MTF

United States1739 Posts

May 03 2008 12:53 GMT

#5255

Obviously nothing there is worth lynching anyone over at this point in time.

However, if we keep finding Mafia among those who voted Randombum, I think the above will be a good reference point to return to later.

Alethios

New Zealand2765 Posts

May 03 2008 12:55 GMT

#5256

On May 03 2008 17:23 MTF wrote:

Show nested quote +

Are you call'd forth from out a world of men to slay the innocent?

Who knew the allegiance of LYS and Ieatkids before their skin colour was revealed?

Two factions.

-Chuiu's mob
-The Burning Legion

Since you're playing the game (and thus cannot be running it) and knew the outcome of the Lynch beforehand... the only conceivable reason for your foresight is your affiliation with the damned.

You're caught Red Handed.

MTF

United States1739 Posts

May 03 2008 13:02 GMT

#5257

On May 03 2008 21:55 Alethios wrote:
Are you call'd forth from out a world of men to slay the innocent?

Who knew the allegiance of LYS and Ieatkids before their skin colour was revealed?

Two factions.

-Chuiu's mob
-The Burning Legion

Since you're playing the game (and thus cannot be running it) and knew the outcome of the Lynch beforehand... the only conceivable reason for your foresight is your affiliation with the damned.

You're caught Red Handed.

Ah, again logic bests me and my true intentions are revealed.

Yes, I'll come right out and say it: I am a complete and utter asshole. I have helped bring down four of my fellow mafia thus far with my inside information for my own personal delight, all the while chuckling to myself knowing that I am hated for being red, and yet trusted among the green in a glorious paradox.

C'mon...let me have my fun. Lynch me last.

Alethios

New Zealand2765 Posts

May 03 2008 13:23 GMT

#5258

On May 03 2008 22:02 MTF wrote:

Show nested quote +

<delusional fantasy>
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Alethios (aside)

Gah... you shall not best me Sir!

MTF

I can smile, and murder while I smile.

Alethios

Out damned spot! Out!

MTF

Thus have I politicly begun my reign,
And 'tis my hope to end successfully.

Alethios

O me, what hast thou done?

MTF

Nay, I know not

Alethios

What is thy name?

MTF

Thou'lt be afraid to hear it.
My name's MTF.

Alethios

The devil himself could not pronounce a title
More hateful to mine ear.

They fight

Alethios

MTF, thou art bested.

MTF

O, yet defend me, friends; I am but hurt.

The Townsfolk

He is justly served.

Alethios

To you, town, remains the censure of this hellish villain;
The time, the place, the torture: O, enforce it!

The Townsfolk

We shall my lord.

MTF is lynched

Alethios

God and your arms be praised, victorious friends,
The day is ours, the bloody dog is dead.

</delusional fantasy>

Who is to be lynched next? Oh glorious leaders?

MTF

United States1739 Posts

May 03 2008 13:43 GMT

#5259

On May 03 2008 22:23 Alethios wrote:

Show nested quote +

<delusional fantasy>
+ Show Spoiler +

Alethios (aside)

Gah... you shall not best me Sir!

MTF

I can smile, and murder while I smile.

Alethios

Out damned spot! Out!

MTF

Thus have I politicly begun my reign,
And 'tis my hope to end successfully.

Alethios

O me, what hast thou done?

MTF

Nay, I know not

Alethios

What is thy name?

MTF

Thou'lt be afraid to hear it.
My name's MTF.

Alethios

The devil himself could not pronounce a title
More hateful to mine ear.

They fight

Alethios

MTF, thou art bested.

MTF

O, yet defend me, friends; I am but hurt.

The Townsfolk

He is justly served.

Alethios

To you, town, remains the censure of this hellish villain;
The time, the place, the torture: O, enforce it!

The Townsfolk

We shall my lord.

MTF is lynched

Alethios

God and your arms be praised, victorious friends,
The day is ours, the bloody dog is dead.

</delusional fantasy>

Who is to be lynched next? Oh glorious leaders?

Hahaha. <3

I've been looking up all those references, because though I recognized a few, most escaped me. I've been doing so for about five minutes now, reading surrounding texts.

Still smiling. :p

I don't know what Plexa/Ace/others think at this junction for certain. If I were to lynch one person at this very moment, I'd pick Nightmare for being on the Showtime! list and seemingly connecting to Mr. Pink. I think we have stronger suspects in general, though, and given that we'd lower Mafia's kill count by hitting one tomorrow, we may want to put our sights on someone more certain.

We should definitely wait for clues to decide the sureness of our next move for us, no matter which course we go.

ZBiR

Poland1092 Posts

May 03 2008 14:45 GMT

#5260

On May 03 2008 17:25 MTF wrote:

Major Suspect Voting Patterns:
+ Show Spoiler [List] +

ZBiR:

Mayoral vote: Fusion
Day 2: Mandalor
Day 3: Wurm, BlindAlbino
Day 4: No vote.
Day 5: No vote.
Day 6: No vote.
Day 7: No vote.
Day 8: LostYourSkills and ieatkids5

lol @ me being a "major suspect"

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