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hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
November 01 2013 17:29 GMT
#390
On November 02 2013 02:14 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2013 02:11 hzflank wrote:
LaughingJack, can you explain why at the time that you posted this, you thought that Oats was scum?

On November 01 2013 17:41 Laughing Jack wrote:
And I'm starting to think Oats will be a good lynch for today.

He said it because Oats ignored his question.


LJ and Oats both though that JJD was scum for a similar reason.

You thought that Oats was scum because as a good player he should not think JJD is scum. I think we can assume that LJ is also an experienced player.

Therefore, I would think that LJ would disagree with your reasons for thinking that Oats is scum. In fact, LJ should of thought your reasons pretty bad.

It's a bit odd that Oats would become his preferred lynch just because he once refused to answer some questions. I was hoping for additional reasoning.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
November 01 2013 18:51 GMT
#409
I have no problem with Oats saying that he can be bad. While it may not be the rule, I am sure that it can happen sometimes. Last time that I played with Oats he actually forgot that he was the doctor and didn't put in night actions (repeatedly). I do not think that Oats ever played the newb card this game, he just said that you should not expect him to be as good as people like Marv, which is fine.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
November 01 2013 20:14 GMT
#419
If your vote is just for lurking then Tehpoofter is probably the one to go for. While mkfuba might be legitimately busy, Tehpoofter was posting in the newbie game more than 24 hours after he stopped posting in this one.

Odin and hermeane are in danger of being modkilled, so no point in voting for them at this time.

There must be at least some scum lurking. I find it hard to believe that we have so many town lurkers.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
November 01 2013 20:32 GMT
#422
Sure, but not just because he is lurking. He never responded to my points against him so I left my vote there. I am happy to lynch mkfuba, it's just that if I were to lynch solely for lurking I would lynch tehpoofter.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
November 01 2013 20:33 GMT
#423
Anyone have an idea on Pandain's vote on JJD?

I do not quite see the reason from going from wanting to lynch LJ to wanting to lynch JJD.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
November 01 2013 20:45 GMT
#427
Actually tehpoofter has not voted yet so there is no point in lynching him in case he gets modkilled.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
November 01 2013 20:46 GMT
#429
On November 02 2013 05:44 Stutters695 wrote:
Hz I'm phone posting, do you happen to remember any games we've played together in? I know we have but I can't think of any off the top of my head.


Titanic.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
November 01 2013 21:05 GMT
#434
Omgus? There were a bunch of other people calling me scum and I did not vote for any of them.

Anyway, your point on the second paragraph makes sense when you put it like that. You are saying that part is not really relevant to why you think that I am scum.

As for me being non-committal, I am not sure that I want to answer that...

I am not surprised that you fin that scummy because that seems to be a bit of a trend around here. I personally think quite the opposite, it's harder for town to commit on day 1 because they have none of the information and scum have it all. It's easy for scum to push hard until it gets close to vote time, and then slowly let up. But whatever, I am not going to change your mind on that.

So, apart from myself, what are your other reads?
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
November 01 2013 21:15 GMT
#437
Stutters, you might have a bit of a hard time with meta on me. This is my fourth game. I have one newbie game as town where I understood nothing about the game, one newbie game as scum which I will link for you, and Titanic which was a complete shipwreck. I am the kind of person who is interested in learning the game, so my play will be changing every game.

On November 02 2013 06:07 Stutters695 wrote:
Why haven't you been pushing and asking questions this game?


I struggled to start caring about it, and then when I got into it the only active posters were people whom I did not want to push. Hopefully I will get a bit more involved soon, but don't expect Titanic levels of posting from me, as I went over the top on that one.

On November 02 2013 06:07 Stutters695 wrote:
Also, what is your most recent scum game?


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=420227
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
November 01 2013 21:19 GMT
#438
Hah, you were actually a town coach in that game, Stutters. Oats was, also.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
November 01 2013 21:51 GMT
#446
Odin,

So who do you actually want to lynch?
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
November 01 2013 22:01 GMT
#456
There's a surprise...

On November 02 2013 06:54 Mig wrote:
This combined with my earlier read on him is enough for my vote.


But you previously decided that you would vote for me, anyway.

On November 02 2013 06:37 Mig wrote:
I will add if hz is red I would probably go for Oats next


Anyway, you claim to have read my previous games and that I was confident and made cases as town, but not as scum. The fact is that I was pretty damn dominating in that scum game that I linked. I made large cases and pushed them hard. I was so confident that right before the SK took me out I made a huge case on someone with a lot of town cred because I thought he was the SK and thought I could push the lynch through hard over the next 48 hours.

Your points are rubbish. Whatever reasons you have for voting for me and not the reasons that you state.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
November 01 2013 22:03 GMT
#457
Odin, who do you want to lynch?
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
November 01 2013 22:16 GMT
#459
Stutters, did you happen to read anything from that game that I linked? If so, is your opinion similar to Mig's?
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
November 01 2013 22:18 GMT
#464
Why either me or Fuba? Why do you like me more or fuba less?
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
November 01 2013 22:18 GMT
#465
Ebwop, that was to Odin.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
November 01 2013 22:40 GMT
#468
Bereft, you originally voted on Pandain due to rng. That was a long time ago.

What is your current opinion on Pandain?
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
November 01 2013 23:04 GMT
#480
I agree that Fuba explained the flaw in mu point against him. He is still not posting, though.

Just imagine that I am Town for a moment, though. Pandain suddenly comes back to the game when he is leading the vote, and then there are three votes in quick succession that make Fuba the vote leader. There was initially only one vote on Fuba and at least two on me, with Mig signalling that he would also vote for me.

Now, if Pandain were scum in panic mode then he could have just voted for me. Instead, he voted for Fuba and then Grack and Odin also voted for Fuba. It makes no sense for Scum Pandain to do that if I am town. Therefore, I personally cannot vote for Pandain at this time. Since the other two people with votes on them are Fuba and myself, my vote obviously has to stay on Fuba.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
November 01 2013 23:10 GMT
#486
On November 02 2013 08:08 Asinine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2013 08:06 Pandain wrote:
On November 02 2013 07:17 Asinine wrote:
I'm still unimpressed with hzflank. His filter reeks of careful posturing which is reminiscent of standard scum play. Pursuing hzflank directly isn't netting immediate results because his posting is so meticulously crafted. However, I'll be leaving my vote on him if I cannot find any more convincing candidates.

I'll filter a few other players. Be back soon.


Did you look into any more canidates?

I will do so post-lynch. Right now, our primary lynch targets are fuba and hzflank. If we're deciding between these two, then my goal right now should be to convince town that hzflank is the better lynch.


Why are there only two lynch targets, to you?
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
November 01 2013 23:14 GMT
#489
But the votes are 4/4/3 and Stutters is not voting. Why is Pandain not a lynch target, for you?

It doesn't matter I suppose, your position is that you want me lynched so there might as well be only one target.
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