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Dakure
Profile Joined February 2011
United States513 Posts
July 29 2012 06:36 GMT
#361
Question: If Kespa pros switched last year when the Elephant article was published on TL, would the gap between GOM and Kespa have been as big? Or do you think they would have been much more competitive at the switch because the game wasn't as mapped out so their mechanics alone would have carried them farther?
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
July 29 2012 06:37 GMT
#362
Soulkey got pretty shafted with his matchup, though I suppose for him to really make it he'd have to beat a top player at some point, which was doubtful to happen =/
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
July 29 2012 06:37 GMT
#363
On July 29 2012 15:34 Mike15xp wrote:
no jjakji v action?


I think the qualifiers are actually taking place at e-stars 2012 which is a gaming convention in seoul. Which is why you see the huge booth/stage setup. And only the 3 matches were saw were schedule for the main stage and thus broadcasted. The other games are being played in another room with rows of PCs and not being streamed.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
July 29 2012 06:38 GMT
#364
On July 29 2012 15:37 red_ wrote:
Soulkey got pretty shafted with his matchup, though I suppose for him to really make it he'd have to beat a top player at some point, which was doubtful to happen =/


Poor guy also got MMA in the first round of his WCS qualifier group...
xrapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1644 Posts
July 29 2012 06:40 GMT
#365
What's up with this theme lately of horrible OPs that are never updated. Pretty annoying tbh.
Everyone is either delusional, a nihlilst, or dead from suicide.
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
July 29 2012 06:41 GMT
#366
On July 29 2012 15:36 Dakure wrote:
Question: If Kespa pros switched last year when the Elephant article was published on TL, would the gap between GOM and Kespa have been as big? Or do you think they would have been much more competitive at the switch because the game wasn't as mapped out so their mechanics alone would have carried them farther?


If they trained as hard as the teams do for BW there is no doubt in my mind the current KeSPA players would be the best if they had switched a year ago.
glzElectromaster
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
July 29 2012 06:41 GMT
#367
Soulkey just has a real tough time in tournaments..dunno why but always gets put up against top sc2 pros...
RIP Kt. Violet | In solitude, where we are least alone
kinverse
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)137 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-08 19:03:53
July 29 2012 06:46 GMT
#368
jjakji 1:1 action
kinverse
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)137 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-08 19:04:08
July 29 2012 06:47 GMT
#369
postgame
http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=126195&db=interview&cate=&page=1&field=&kwrd=
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 29 2012 06:48 GMT
#370
oh quit complaining about the op, they're playing out of order and i can't update since my net cut out and i can't edit on 3g
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
July 29 2012 06:49 GMT
#371
On July 29 2012 15:41 setzer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2012 15:36 Dakure wrote:
Question: If Kespa pros switched last year when the Elephant article was published on TL, would the gap between GOM and Kespa have been as big? Or do you think they would have been much more competitive at the switch because the game wasn't as mapped out so their mechanics alone would have carried them farther?


If they trained as hard as the teams do for BW there is no doubt in my mind the current KeSPA players would be the best if they had switched a year ago.



Probably. But would their sponsors have followed them? One of the reasons BW players can focus on their practice is because they have big corporate sponsors which makes them able to give their players good salaries. Would Flash be Flash if he had to fly all over the world monthly to play in foreign events, or wake up in the middle of the night to play in European online Cup so he could make a good living? I agree that BW pros are very hard working and dedicated. But their team infrastructure allows them to do that as well. That is why we see foreigners who stay in korean pro house usually show significant improvement. And by all accounts, BW pro houses are much more established and well ran then SC2 pro houses.
Dakure
Profile Joined February 2011
United States513 Posts
July 29 2012 06:50 GMT
#372
On July 29 2012 15:41 setzer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2012 15:36 Dakure wrote:
Question: If Kespa pros switched last year when the Elephant article was published on TL, would the gap between GOM and Kespa have been as big? Or do you think they would have been much more competitive at the switch because the game wasn't as mapped out so their mechanics alone would have carried them farther?


If they trained as hard as the teams do for BW there is no doubt in my mind the current KeSPA players would be the best if they had switched a year ago.

Sorry, I guess I wasn't clear. I meant to ask how they would be last year when they first transitioned (assuming they transitioned last year). Would they be closer to Code S stars?
aeN
Profile Joined November 2010
Italy92 Posts
July 29 2012 06:54 GMT
#373
On July 29 2012 15:48 opterown wrote:
oh quit complaining about the op, they're playing out of order and i can't update since my net cut out and i can't edit on 3g

Why make the LR thread if you know you can't update it?

Luckily there's liquipedia...
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 29 2012 06:57 GMT
#374
On July 29 2012 15:54 aeN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2012 15:48 opterown wrote:
oh quit complaining about the op, they're playing out of order and i can't update since my net cut out and i can't edit on 3g

Why make the LR thread if you know you can't update it?

Luckily there's liquipedia...

what part of my net cut out do you not understand
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
kinverse
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)137 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-08 19:04:56
July 29 2012 06:59 GMT
#375
UPSET ALERT

action 1:1 jjakji
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
July 29 2012 07:00 GMT
#376
On July 29 2012 15:57 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2012 15:54 aeN wrote:
On July 29 2012 15:48 opterown wrote:
oh quit complaining about the op, they're playing out of order and i can't update since my net cut out and i can't edit on 3g

Why make the LR thread if you know you can't update it?

Luckily there's liquipedia...

what part of my net cut out do you not understand


Why aren't you a psychic opterown? Jeez D:
MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
July 29 2012 07:01 GMT
#377
On July 29 2012 15:54 aeN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2012 15:48 opterown wrote:
oh quit complaining about the op, they're playing out of order and i can't update since my net cut out and i can't edit on 3g

Why make the LR thread if you know you can't update it?

Luckily there's liquipedia...


Because their internet unexpectedly cut out after they made it?
kinverse
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)137 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-08 19:08:05
July 29 2012 07:03 GMT
#378
sorry premature
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
July 29 2012 07:03 GMT
#379
On July 29 2012 15:59 kinverse wrote:
UPSET ALERT!

action 1:1 jjakji -3rd game: actions got ultras out and looks to be favored


So Action is trying to throw away a won game with Ultras?



Kidding....
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-29 07:13:27
July 29 2012 07:05 GMT
#380
Kespa going 2-5 vs GSL. Will be interesting to see how Stork and Reality do on the 1st.

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