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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 25 2013 21:20 GMT
#2521
You don't need an economy if you don't lose any units.
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Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
October 25 2013 21:20 GMT
#2522
On October 26 2013 06:18 TaishiCi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 06:16 Undead1993 wrote:
On October 26 2013 06:15 Qwyn wrote:
HOTS looking like it's going to be HOT Protoss. If there's no way for Jaedong to come back I don't really have any interest in the finals anymore lol. GL and I will check who wins ^^.

but the foreigner will lose, that's interesting, stay

^fixed it ^.^

uhhh you so evil
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
October 25 2013 21:20 GMT
#2523
Poll: Recommend Dear vs HerO, Game 2?

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (25)
 
58%

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (15)
 
35%

★★★ - Good game (2)
 
5%

★ - Do not see this game (1)
 
2%

★★ - If you have time (0)
 
0%

43 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Dear vs HerO, Game 2?

(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★ - If you have time
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game

Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 25 2013 21:20 GMT
#2524
On October 26 2013 06:19 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 06:16 Shellshock wrote:
On October 26 2013 06:12 Shellshock wrote:
On October 26 2013 06:09 Shellshock wrote:
On October 26 2013 06:05 Shellshock wrote:
On October 26 2013 06:02 Shellshock wrote:
[WCS Finals] Day 1 Season 3 Group C
[image loading] (P)HerO vs. [image loading] (P)Dear
Game 2 (0-1)
Map: Bel'Shir Vestige

0:00
HerO spawns in the top left
Dear spawns in the bottom right

1:40
gateway first for both players

2:00
gas for Dear
double gas for HerO
Cybernetics core for both players
2nd gas for Dear

3:00
zealot for both players
stalker for HerO

4:00
MSC for HerO
stargate for Dear
sentry for HerO
Nexus for HerO
2nd gate for Dear

5:00
2nd gate for HerO
phoenix production started for Dear
robo for HerO
robo for Dear
Dear scouts the nexus of HerO
Oracle for Dear
another gate for HerO

6:00
2 phoenixes scouting HerO's base
observer for Dear
probe scout on the map is killed by phoenixes
immortal started for Dear

7:00 H 48 vs D 49
Nexus on the way for Dear
immortal started for HerO
oracle is denied from the main of HerO by photon overcharge
Twilight council for HerO

8:00 H 58 vs D 58
another gas for HerO
forge for HerO
forge for Dear
Templar archives for HerO
another gate for HerO
Dear continuing immortal production

9:00 H 66 vs D 72
+1 attack for HerO
+1 attack for Dear
2 more gates for HerO
Robo bay for Dear
HerO warping in HTs
another gate for Dear

10:00 H 76 vs D 80
another gate for Dear
2 more gates for HerO
phoenixes denying hallucinated phoenix scouts throughout the game
HerO finally gets one through
Oracle of Dear is killed in the main of HerO by feedback
Twilight council for Dear
Warp prism for HerO
charge research for HerO

11:00 H 87 vs D 91
Colossus production for Dear
robo bay for HerO
+2 attack started for Dear
3rd base for Dear
3rd base for HerO

12:00 D 91 vs H 96
charge research for Dear
+2 attack for HerO
warp prism of HerO is caught on the map and killed by the phoenixes
2nd robo for HerO
templar archives for Dear
HerO moving out on the map
pheonixes trying to hurt HerO's MSC

13:00 H 103 vs D 107
Colossus production started for HerO
archons being added in for Dear
5 immortals out for Dear vs 2 for HerO
HerO attacking at the 3rd of Dear
photon overcharge on the 3rd bae
HerO backs off
HerO is forced to recall

14:00 H 110 vs D 125
double colossus production for HerO
extended thermal lance research for HerO
warp prism for Dear
Dear stopped at 1 colossus
2 more gates for HerO
Dear moving out on the map

15:00 H 132 vs D 146
+3 attack started for Dear
+3 attack started for HerO
warp prism of Dear heads into the main of HerO and drops 4 zealots
more zealots being warped into HerO's main
forge of HerO falls

16:00 H 156 vs D 150
robo of HerO is killed
attack at the 3rd of HerO is deflected
forge rebuilding for HerO
colossus production restarted for Dear
2nd robo for Dear
extended thermal lance research for Dear
dark shrine for HerO

17:00 H 166 vs D 166
+3 attack restarted for HerO
3 more gates for Dear
Stargate for HerO
immortal production restarted for HerO
double colossus production for Dear
+1 armor started for Dear
2nd stargate for HerO
4 colossi for HerO vs 2 of Dear with 2 more on the way
Dear still has a large immortal lead
zealot runby at the 3rd of Dear

18:00 H 183 vs D 177
Dear cleans it up
Fleet beacon for HerO
DTs being warped in for HerO
4th base for Dear
colossus and archon count is equal
Dear has 3 more immortals

19:00 H 187 vs D 173
DT at the 4th of Dear makes Dear back off with his army
4th base for HerO
zealot runby at the 3rd of HerO
double Tempest production started for HerO
2 more gates for HerO
Dear forces a cancel on HerO's 4th

20:00 H 188 vs D 169
warp prism in the main of HerO is killed
Dear attacking the 3rd of HerO
3rd of HerO is targeted down
Dear kites back with his army
7 colossi out for Dear with 2 more on the way
4 tempests about to be out for HerO
+2 armor for Dear

21:00 H 185 vs D 195
3rd base rebuilding for HerO
5th tempest started for HerO
Dear adding in more archons
oracle for HerO
4 more gates for Dear

22:00 H 192 vs D 193
Dear attacking into the 3rd of HerO again
timewarp on Dear's army by HerO
Dear sees the tempests and backs off
+3 armor for Dear

23:00 H 192 vs D 193
blink research started for Dear
HerO following Dear out onto the map
2 more tempests for HerO
4 more archons for Dear
HerO attacking the 4th of Dear
Dear is on the other side of the map
4th of Dear is killed off
HerO recalls to his natural
4th for HerO

24:00 H 200 vs D 197
Dear attacking the 3rd of HerO
timewarp between the natural and 3rd of HerO to slow Hero's army
MSC of Dear is killed
3rd of HerO is killed
tempests start 1 shotting colossi
HerO just runs away from Dear's army and starts killing the colossi
5 colossi die before the engagement even starts
all the colossi of Dear are killed

25:00 H 172 vs D 145
Dear's army is cleaned up by HerO's
HerO keeps all of his colossi and tempests
HerO takes a 50 supply lead and starts moving across the map
4th base for Dear finishes
5th base for Dear
Dear just rebuilding gateway units

26:00 H 155 vs D 136
HerO attacking the 4th of Dear
engagement at the 4th of Hero
mostly stalkers and archons vs a shitload of robo and archon units for HerO
Dear's army is slapped aside and Dear ggs!
HerO ties it up 1-1!
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y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
October 25 2013 21:20 GMT
#2525
the value of the MSC really shows there, WP HERO!!
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
October 25 2013 21:20 GMT
#2526
OMG HEROOOOOOOOOO
jjakji fan
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
October 25 2013 21:20 GMT
#2527
gg wp hero! now take game 3.
Moderatorlickypiddy
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
October 25 2013 21:20 GMT
#2528
Herooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, yayyyyy
Get off my lawn, young punks
AlgeriaT
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden2197 Posts
October 25 2013 21:20 GMT
#2529
OH DEAR!!!
CORN GIRL + Flash + FanTaSy + CholeraSC + iNcontroL 4 eva <3
umade
Profile Joined September 2011
Sweden172 Posts
October 25 2013 21:20 GMT
#2530
WHAT A SICK BATTLE THAT WAS
Awesomeness
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2719 Posts
October 25 2013 21:20 GMT
#2531
tempest
very illegal and very uncool
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51485 Posts
October 25 2013 21:20 GMT
#2532
PvP so fun for me
Sick game
LAZORZ
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Zheryn
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3653 Posts
October 25 2013 21:20 GMT
#2533
GG NANIWA!!!
hundred thousand krouner
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10126 Posts
October 25 2013 21:20 GMT
#2534
Good game yeah.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
October 25 2013 21:20 GMT
#2535
Well, that was stupid. Two thrown leads this series already
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
October 25 2013 21:20 GMT
#2536
cool game
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 25 2013 21:20 GMT
#2537
Fuck yeh Hero that's how we do!!!!!!!

one more game lets go
Zerg for Life
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
October 25 2013 21:20 GMT
#2538
On October 26 2013 06:13 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 06:09 robson1 wrote:
On October 26 2013 06:07 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On October 26 2013 06:01 BlackCompany wrote:
On October 26 2013 06:01 Fusilero wrote:
On October 26 2013 06:00 TheDougler wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:58 Fusilero wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:57 Zealously wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:55 boxerfred wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:55 robson1 wrote:
[quote]

Code S champion being fantastic is not really a opinion.



Tell me more about that fantastic MVP_Sniper

I wish people would get the fuck off the "Sniper was a bad player all along"-bandwagon. It kills my braincells with its sheer stupidity

I find it amusing that jjakji and seed become champs and fall off but they maintain dedicated fans and people say they can comeback, sniper does the same and everyone hindsight shits on him.


Wait wait wait, do people not consider Genius to be a fan favourite? Times have changed man...

Genius beat jaedong and 5000 people who want to think they're cool BW veterans fanboy rage at him by bandwagoning onto jaedong.

You forgot the part where Protoss is stupid and all they can do is cheesy imba all-ins


Its not particulary about that they "can only do that", but these kind of things are just soo unforgiving, jaedong got unlucky with his scouting 2 times and then has no chance at all to defend there. I mean i dont understand how you can argue against the shit that is warpgate, have your new built army instant there where you need it is just fking ridiculous oftentimes.. Protoss is just a gamble race, thats the reason why they are so strong in bo1's and you almost never see really great agmes out of PvX matchups.
And no i wont shut up or do something else, cause i enjoy every other matchup without protoss in it.


Do I have to keep doing this?[image loading]


If you cant argue, just keep doing it. That doesnt make your points (lol) more valid. If you think genius did play better cause he got the pylons there and did manage to have fantastic voidray micro (lol²), then yeah.
Its sad that that the tvt was by far the best match today, only cause every other match had a toss in it :/

TvT is the best match up in Sc2 period, it's the only match up I'll watch even if there are no players I care about, as long as it's high enough level.

And about Jaedong, look, I'm one of the biggest fanboys ever, but I'm not blind or stupid, and you'd have to be fucking crazy to think he had any real shot of wining this, or even make it out of the group. His play has been getting consistently worse the last few months, he looked shaky as hell in WCS NA, almost losing to Hack and then incomprehensible decision making and really poor reads cost him the series against Buyl. He

He just does not read the game anywhere near as well as needs to, in SC2 it's so incredibly easy to lose as zerg to a P or Z who just plays super aggressive, any I have seen nothing to suggest that he could make it through this murderer's row. I give him a decent shot at beating MMA, but it would surprise me greatly if he beats Hero or Genius. If they just do mixed all ins and weird cheeses every game, odds are it's going to work at least twice.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
October 25 2013 21:20 GMT
#2539
On October 26 2013 06:15 robson1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 06:13 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On October 26 2013 06:09 robson1 wrote:
On October 26 2013 06:07 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On October 26 2013 06:01 BlackCompany wrote:
On October 26 2013 06:01 Fusilero wrote:
On October 26 2013 06:00 TheDougler wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:58 Fusilero wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:57 Zealously wrote:
On October 26 2013 05:55 boxerfred wrote:
[quote]


Tell me more about that fantastic MVP_Sniper

I wish people would get the fuck off the "Sniper was a bad player all along"-bandwagon. It kills my braincells with its sheer stupidity

I find it amusing that jjakji and seed become champs and fall off but they maintain dedicated fans and people say they can comeback, sniper does the same and everyone hindsight shits on him.


Wait wait wait, do people not consider Genius to be a fan favourite? Times have changed man...

Genius beat jaedong and 5000 people who want to think they're cool BW veterans fanboy rage at him by bandwagoning onto jaedong.

You forgot the part where Protoss is stupid and all they can do is cheesy imba all-ins


Its not particulary about that they "can only do that", but these kind of things are just soo unforgiving, jaedong got unlucky with his scouting 2 times and then has no chance at all to defend there. I mean i dont understand how you can argue against the shit that is warpgate, have your new built army instant there where you need it is just fking ridiculous oftentimes.. Protoss is just a gamble race, thats the reason why they are so strong in bo1's and you almost never see really great agmes out of PvX matchups.
And no i wont shut up or do something else, cause i enjoy every other matchup without protoss in it.


Do I have to keep doing this?[image loading]


If you cant argue, just keep doing it. That doesnt make your points (lol) more valid. If you think genius did play better cause he got the pylons there and did manage to have fantastic voidray micro (lol²), then yeah.
Its sad that that the tvt was by far the best match today, only cause every other match had a toss in it :/


I could argue. But I DON'T WANT TO. Just stop complaining all the time. You're the negativity everybody is talking about.


yeah whatever, i forgot you have to be all positive these days even when the games are fking bad.

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scudst0rm
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1149 Posts
October 25 2013 21:20 GMT
#2540
You're like a one ranger army comin' at me...
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