On March 31 2012 01:20 phagga wrote:
Short question: If Dirk Hardpec is still burning, wouldn't Foolishnes get killed when he visits him to shoot him?

No. He would have been burned if he attacked him last night.

Moving my vote to Blubbdavid to prevent any unvote shenanigans. For what its worth, id still rather kill Dirk, burning or not.

Jitsu

United States929 Posts

March 30 2012 23:03 GMT

#2222

Night 5

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GLaDOS: "Oh dear, it seems that one of the Test Subjects was nudged down into the Aperture Science Aperture Super-Hole. Now, which one of you was the one that did the pushing? Come on, you can be honest with me. We are all like family, aren’t we?

No? Oh dear, I guess we aren’t becoming as close as I had hoped…oh well. I think I will live.

The question is…will you?

Test Subject blubdavid, the Sleeper Cell Janitor, has been lynched!

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Welcome to Aperture Mafia! You are a Janitor. Once during the game, at night, you may use your powers of ultimate cleanliness to cause all flips in the daypost to be hidden. The results of all of the flips will be PMed to you, and only you. You are also a member of the Sleeper Cell . You do not know the other 3 members, however you do know a Cell leader is in this game, and you may receive messages from him during the day or night phase. Your win condition is for the Cell to outnumber the remaining players in the game.

It is now Night 5. Please send your actions to all the mods by Saturday, Mar 31 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)

Jayjay54

Germany2296 Posts

March 30 2012 23:06 GMT

#2223

so you were the guy who ate the flips day one?

next stop: dirk. If he doesn't burn down.

foolishness, be wise and do the only thing you can do with the scatter gun and use it on dirk and K. anything else would be dumb and anti town.

Jayjay54

Germany2296 Posts

March 30 2012 23:20 GMT

#2224

also, this post is funny in retrospective:

On March 20 2012 09:17 blubbdavid wrote:
I looked a bit around and found this:
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Janitor
Most probably we have a janitor here.

And thx JJ, this wiki is most helpful.

Adam4167

Australia1426 Posts

March 30 2012 23:22 GMT

#2225

Interesting. At least that explains N1.

Nisani:

Bat-vision goggles
One shot. Instant use. Reveals a selected players alignment, abilities and role including all hidden win conditions. Pierces through any kind of 'Godfather effect'.

Nisani201

United States1400 Posts

March 30 2012 23:23 GMT

#2226

I would personally prefer a dayvig item. But I'll see what others have to say.

Adam4167

Australia1426 Posts

March 30 2012 23:26 GMT

#2227

I think its too risky that that would fall into scum hands and be used against the town. A DT item limits the damage done to town if that happens and will set us up with either an ensured lynch or a confirmed townie.

Foolishness

United States3044 Posts

March 30 2012 23:27 GMT

#2228

On March 31 2012 08:06 Jayjay54 wrote:
so you were the guy who ate the flips day one?

next stop: dirk. If he doesn't burn down.

foolishness, be wise and do the only thing you can do with the scatter gun and use it on dirk and K. anything else would be dumb and anti town.

You need to read more closely on who I will shoot
that you haven't done so makes you look like a fruit.
I pick two of the same alignment
to put them into confinement.
Using on Dirk and K, the point would be moot.

Adam4167

Australia1426 Posts

March 30 2012 23:31 GMT

#2229

I think he was telling you to intentionally waste the shot.

Shoot at Mementoss and Dirk. If one of them is town, it'll do nothing. Then we lynch dirk tomorrow and we'll have our answer.

If they're both scum, Mementoss will medic Dirk, but Kita's fire and the scatter shot will kill them both anyway. Problem solved, two dead scum.

Nisani201

United States1400 Posts

March 30 2012 23:41 GMT

#2230

Why would he intentionally waste the shot? He should just shoot the two people he thinks are the most scummy and be done with it.

Maverick32x

United States311 Posts

March 31 2012 00:17 GMT

#2231

On March 31 2012 06:20 Jayjay54 wrote:
blubb, your case vs ken is weak. from all list candidates kenpachi looks the best, because, well, he's kenpachi.

dirk claims to be burning and is the next target nonetheless.

You did basically nothing to change this. That's why you die.

mav, ken can't be third because the colour radiator didn't return third.

I'm on a break .. but isn't it possible that he is town but has a separate role? Kind of like one of the beings?

Doesn't matter though as long as he's pro town..

Nisani201

United States1400 Posts

March 31 2012 05:51 GMT

#2232

ACTIVE GAMES SHOULD NEVER GO YELLOW

Jayjay54

Germany2296 Posts

March 31 2012 06:44 GMT

#2233

WASTE THE SHOT

don't shoot the two scummiest persons. That's nothing more than a backdoor for an intentional misuse. I mean, I am thinking that there are 2 scums out there. One Cell.

Assuming those numbers, you have a chance of excatly 2,5 % of hitting both of the scum.
On the other hand, you have a 46,666% of "accidently shooting two twonies. And loosing us the entire game.
You have a 51% or so chance of know that they don't share an alignment. Now what? Yay. No worth.

Foolishness, use the shot on Kenpachi and Dirk. If you end up shooting two townies, you are scum. Because I showed you the numbers. This item is anti town. The risk & reward is non-existent. DOOOOON'T USE it.

@mav: third is never town, third means third party which is not town...that's what my comment says.

Jayjay54

Germany2296 Posts

March 31 2012 06:47 GMT

#2234

On March 31 2012 08:41 Nisani201 wrote:
Why would he intentionally waste the shot? He should just shoot the two people he thinks are the most scummy and be done with it.

This comment really looks scummy, no one with a town attitude should just randomly shoot into people.

You, once more don't think about the attitude.

Nisani, you make me feel uneasy. Why would you suggest that?

Jayjay54

Germany2296 Posts

March 31 2012 06:49 GMT

#2235

especially after posting this assumption yesterday:

On March 30 2012 10:17 Nisani201 wrote:
Adam the two remaining scum are of different alignment. One is cell the other is mafia.

if he thinks that the pro town use of the item is 000000% with a riks of 62 % of hitting two townies.

Jayjay54

Germany2296 Posts

March 31 2012 06:54 GMT

#2236

Two the people who say, hey we know that one is a townie and one is scum:

That's ridiculous. You still got a 50-50 percent of a mislynch, if we choose the most scummy persons. If we lynch scum then, we don't even have a confirmed town afterwards, because the second one might be cell...

If I now at this point randomly choose to people alive (inlcuding me), I have a 33,33% chance of hitting scum. The plus 16,66% don't justify an almost 50-50% chance to shoot a townie?? Really?

This item needs to be wasted. Everyone with a hint of logic should see that.

Actually, I think it's scummy to suggest using it nonetheless...

blubbdavid

Switzerland2412 Posts

March 31 2012 11:22 GMT

#2237

I will take my secrets with me in to my grave.

gg gents

On March 31 2012 08:20 Jayjay54 wrote:
also, this post is funny in retrospective:

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blubbdavid

Switzerland2412 Posts

March 31 2012 12:11 GMT

#2238

Holy fuck I am a queen.

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

March 31 2012 13:59 GMT

#2239

I agree with JJ: Waste the shot. We can't afford for the gun to kill two townies. Dirk and Kenpachi are the safest two to shoot.

Of course, if Foolishness does shoot two townies, we have tomorrow's lynch sorted out.

As far as tomorrow's item, Adam's idea isn't terrible, but I don't see it being that helpful. We have probably two sleepers left, who cares what their role PMs look like. All we need is something to find them. Another color radiator wouldn't be terrible, but I'm sure we can think of something better.