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ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
March 29 2012 22:52 GMT
#2181
That's not what I'm saying at all. What I'm saying is let's not agree on a lynch candidate now and scrap the rest of the day.

Also, food for thought: sleepers have a KP, scum have access to the black market.

Which is too bad, because my gut tells me Dirk is scum, and I think it would be wiser to leave him to die to kita's flames. I don't think a mason would have any kind of inherent ability to negate KP, and I don't think the KP have a medic. Last time Dirk was protected from the flames was due to mementoss, and I don't see him doing that again.

Mods: Can you add Mementoss' filter to the OP? Mementoss' Filter
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
March 29 2012 22:59 GMT
#2182
It might be optimal to leave him to die by Kita's flames, but after what happened in Arkham City, I am done with 'optimal' plans, I lynch the scum in front of me.

How do we know that it isn't the sleepers who are shopping on the black market? Last nights kills only tell us that the mafia either didn't shoot (very unlikely) or their shot was overlapped.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
March 29 2012 23:06 GMT
#2183
scum has a regular KP don't they? I think it was mentioned in paperscraps' pm.

If foolishness is town he won't misuse the item and no damage is done, but still a great opportunity was missed...

The important part is to prevent a no lynch...If this is put in jeopardy, I'll gladly switch to somebody else on that list.

I still don't believe that dirk is scum just because scum are robots and dirk has telepathic powers. That just doesn't fit.
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
March 29 2012 23:11 GMT
#2184
I wouldn't read too much into the flavor, look at his actions. That is not town Palmar. Town Palmar calls everyone idiots, dense, thick when people are not bending to his will.

Hes dodged death a dozen times this game, lets rectify that.

ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
March 29 2012 23:14 GMT
#2185
I'm fine lynching the scum in front of us. The thing is we have two scum, which leaves us the responsibility of lynching the best scum in front of us. We know Dirk is the mason, which means he most likely has no other powers. Blubb, on the other hand, could be anything.

I would guess that it's the scum on the black market, as the sleepers killed someone last night. I would guess that the scum used their item from the blackmarket yesterday instead of their KP. Also, Midnight told us that there weren't too many people on the black market. Since the scum used the black market item (again, I'm guessing), I'm assuming it's them that has access to it.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
March 29 2012 23:21 GMT
#2186
On March 30 2012 08:11 Adam4167 wrote:
I wouldn't read too much into the flavor, look at his actions. That is not town Palmar. Town Palmar calls everyone idiots, dense, thick when people are not bending to his will.

Hes dodged death a dozen times this game, lets rectify that.




oh I doubt he's town since he invited mementoss and ghost instead of you and nisani for no reason...he's prolly cell and not scum.

hmm, like I said, I am fine with either one, but still think david has the higher chance to belong to the actual scum team and is the better choice.

I'd rather not lynch K now since we don't get as much information from the flip.
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
March 29 2012 23:53 GMT
#2187
Alright im going to let ya know what I think about the 1/1/1

Kenpachi:
Doesn't post often. When he does post it is usually 1 liners. A good portion of those posts are trying to get the town to vote Glados, at this point I don't even know if it's part of his role, or if he's trying to derail the town. Or just plain trolling. Nothing much else to say here, other than if he is town, he is certainly not helpful.

Shitty town, or sleeper cell

BlubbDavid:
Out of the 4 people kita checked. Blubb stated wiggles was clearly the most town, when his play never reflected this. Then he flips cell leader. Then afterwards before Kita died, wanted to use the scatter gun against him, even though it seemed clear he most likely was town aligned, after killing the Mafia GF and also was not lying about the colour radiator. Seems scummy to me, the reasoning didn't make sense and he didn't explain it. His whole filter seems to be him jumping back and forth on people who we should kill. Note there is never a clear target. This seems scummy to me.

Scum or cell (trying to defend sleeper cell leader)

DirkHardpec

Lurks harder than even kenpachi. Pushing for a Nisani lynch. Is currently on fire. Has access to the telepathic QT, which doens't seem like scum ability or flavour per say. Him being on fire could mean he could die tonight. But we cannot know for sure. So if we are not lynching him for this reason alone I think that is a mistake. Is a bit active in the tele QT, but not much. Seems uninterested.

Cell or bad town

Out of those three I think the blubbdavid lynch is the safest as I think he is either cell or scum for sure. I would think dirk is most likely cell, and kenpachi is most likely just playing a bad town game.

However I would like to mention one more case, as we don't have to lynch these people at all. Because foolishness has the scatter shot, I think this would be a perfect spot for him to shoot, as it doesn't work unless he gets 2 oppositely aligned players. Which is guarenteed shooting into this three pack.

Nisani
Ghost earlier brought up an issue, him giving the colour radiator to hassy, coulda been working with scum, letting paperscraps shoot him and aquiring the colour radiator, thus wasting it. Luckily kita go the kill and used the colour radiator accurately. Now he has invented something the town reccomended but in the wrong way. It will either be a good item, or useless. Its a low risk, item, but has a low chance of being good for the town. (if it duds out) Also had a lot of scum vibes coming from him before he even claimed inventor. I also think town is in a good spot right now it seems, and the only thing that can bring it back for scum, is a poorly designed invention in the wrong hands.

Leaning scum inventor to me, that just got caught in the act when kita acquired the colour radiator meant for paperscraps.

I would like a Nisani lynch, and allow foolishness to use his item with no chance of it not working on the 1/1/1.

##Vote: Nisani

Also I have travelling to do tommorrow, so I wont be around all day. Will try to drop in and will switch my vote if its needed for a majority.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
March 29 2012 23:55 GMT
#2188
EBWOP: Also Dirk invited me to QT for no reason, I'm not even sure why. Questionable.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
March 30 2012 00:54 GMT
#2189
So we have a list of 2/3 anti-town players, and you would rather go after someone who is feeding the town items.

You even acknowledge that we should be lynching into that list here, 12 hours ago. Your read on Nisani is 'leaning scum', and you'd rather lynch there over a 66% chance of hitting someone that is anti-town?

Your whole reason for wanting to kill Nisani is bogus. Your 'proof' for him being scum is he had some convoluted plan to get the colour radiator into scum hands, when it is equally likely that he was town, giving the item to someone he considered town. Your last line in your paragraph on Nisani is pure fearmongering, saying 'the only way scum can bring it back' is by doing exactly what you claim Nisani did.

Even if Nisani is scum, that's crazy. We kill the confirmed scum in front of us, then clean up whatever is left afterwards.

I think you are scum. I think you are some form of Aperture Computer Terminal.





Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
March 30 2012 00:58 GMT
#2190
Well im just saying that it would be the best chance we have of foolishness' item to work. Either that or lynch one of the three and use the item on the other two. Which would guarentee scum kill and cell kill for a sacrificed townie. In that case I guess it doesn't really matter who we kill as long as we trust foolishness. I really don't think hes scum since he was killed early by scum and it seems like an odd early bus.

I never said I was final on that vote, I said if I seen any better reasoning/plan I would change. And who is this "confirmed scum" you speak of? Only scum would know who scum are. I don't understand what you are talking about here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
March 30 2012 01:01 GMT
#2191
EBWOP: In the case we just kill of the whole list this cycle I like the BlubbDavid lynchthe best>Dirk>Kenpachi , as I am fairly sure Blubb is either scum or cell, a lynch on which either benefit the town.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
March 30 2012 01:09 GMT
#2192
That is not how the scattershot works, and you used Nisani making the item wrong as your proof as why he is scum, so you should know that.

The 'confirmed scum' are the 2 we know exist in the list of 3 names that Kita gave us. For all we know, they are the last two remaining scum in the game, due to the closed setup. Lynching elsewhere is ridiculous.



Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
March 30 2012 01:17 GMT
#2193
Adam the two remaining scum are of different alignment. One is cell the other is mafia.
Enjoy your day.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
March 30 2012 01:20 GMT
#2194
On March 30 2012 03:14 Foolishness wrote:
The gun is quite simple, I have two shots.
I pick two people, and hope they are not
of different factions,
else my actions,
will not go through, and I wasted the gun I got.


Two different factions= Shot does nothing.

Scum is a faction. Cell is a different faction. That item is more corrupt then the One Ring. You'll use it with the best intentions, best case scenario it does nothing. Worst case scenario it splatters two townies.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
March 30 2012 01:36 GMT
#2195
Regardless, that gun needs to be fired tonight. It gets fired at whoever is still left on the list after we lynch today. If it targets alignment, they'll both die. If it targets faction, it'll do nothing.

Tomorrows item should not be a vig item.
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
March 30 2012 02:00 GMT
#2196
Oh I completely misunderstood -_-. I thought it only worked if they were two different factions.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
March 30 2012 02:03 GMT
#2197
EBWOP: I thought that the mistake was it wouldn't kill anyone if he targetted 2 of the same faction. And would kill both if they were different faction.

Rather than I thought the orginal idea was it would kill one regardless and if the second shot was fired on the same faction only the second shot wouldn't go through. So that we could at least confirm the second shot, without risking killing two townies.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu96xMwFVXw
Companion Cube
Profile Joined February 2012
32 Posts
March 30 2012 09:54 GMT
#2198
[image loading]

I may not have seen the light of day
But even in death I have things to say
You can kill me
But I will always be
The one who shows town the way

The poet was brought back to the game
We cheered, once again seeing his name
But who is to blame?
It's such a shame...
That his alignment is no longer the same
The Companion Cube will never threaten to stab you, and does not speak. If it does speak, disregard its advice.
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
March 30 2012 10:54 GMT
#2199
Foolishness, is this vig shot an instanteous day vig shot or only usable in at night?

Mementoss, if you compare Wiggles filter with that one of Kenpachi or Dirk, then you will see that Wiggles was the most "townlike" player.
What do you desire? Money? Glory? Power? Revenge? Or something that surpasses all other? Whatever you desire - that is here. Tower of God ¦¦Nutella, drink of the Gods
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
March 30 2012 11:02 GMT
#2200
On March 30 2012 18:54 Companion Cube's Profile quote says:
The Companion Cube will never threaten to stab you, and does not speak. If it does speak, disregard its advice.

"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
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