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Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
March 29 2012 20:00 GMT
#2161
Well we could see if two people are of opposite alignment.
Enjoy your day.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
March 29 2012 20:02 GMT
#2162
I was honestly about to post how stupid everyone is who voted you. Now, I have to revaluate...

You either made a really stupid mistake and really misread or you willingly screwed town over. I honestly find it hard to believe that you didn't think about the item one second and misread at the same time...

What information do you expect? A soft DT with the risk of killing two townies? No way. This item is of no use whatsoever.

Foolishness, you have to use it as fast as you can within that list. This way it doesn't kill anyone and can't be misused. It's the only sensible play right now.
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
March 29 2012 20:04 GMT
#2163
Yeah I realize it's stupid. If a vig wants to kill me tonight that's fine, I don't want tomorrow's discussion to be derailed by whether or not this was a mistake or scum action.
Enjoy your day.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
March 29 2012 20:19 GMT
#2164
Ok, just a thought experiment. Let's assume the worst case szenario. Let's assume both you and foolishness are scum for a second. What happens now is, you

a) force a mislynch
b) misuse the scattershot on town
c) use scum KP
d) sea of madness (scum?)

=> 3-3 and scum win, if I am not mistaken. That would be the absolute worst case.

If foolishness is town, he will use the scatter gun within that list. It will insta mark him red if he kills two townies and be an easy lynch. You could meanwhile invent something better.

What I find interesting is that Foolishness says

On March 30 2012 03:11 Foolishness wrote:
Dirk is not of the town, I might add
He needs to be killed, he is quite bad.
He's kinda a creeper
so he might be a sleeper.
blubb is for sure town, Kenpachi is too mad.


and Nisani never even mentions david. He completely avoids talking to him, while he talks about K and dirk a lot.

So in case both of them are scum => blubb is almost certainly scum. We have to lynch him.

If you are not scum, blubb is still a decent lynch IMO and you can prove better.

Town => do not follow both of them into a lynch. David should be the target to prevent a worst case scenario.

VOTE DAVID




Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
March 29 2012 20:29 GMT
#2165
I'll read through blub's filter and see if he's a good candidate.
Enjoy your day.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 29 2012 20:41 GMT
#2166
Mislynch is impossible. Im town
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 29 2012 20:44 GMT
#2167
I also want to know why Foolishness decides to defend david > me and call me mad.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 29 2012 20:45 GMT
#2168
and Nisani is indeed Mafia. you guys were all stupid when you lynched sinani
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
March 29 2012 20:51 GMT
#2169
So we vote david for the case that Nisani/Foolishness try to screw us over?

Suits me.

##Unvote: Dirk Hardpec
##Vote: blubbdavid
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
March 29 2012 20:51 GMT
#2170
Ok, I need to OMGUS:
To any townie out there: Don't you find it suspicious that our dear Mr JayJay54 here is acting as town leader while surviving crazy nights of mass KP?
Is scum really to incompetent to kill him?
Furthermore, did you see how comfortably our dear Mr JayJay54 lynched Wiggles, a Sleeper. Now there was a 1/2 chance that Wiggles would flip sleeper and only a 1/4 chance for scum. Still, 1:4.

His voting behaviour: At the bluelightz lynch, he hopped on the lightz train pretty fast. Well, he had the choice between lightz and Dirk. I assume that both of these are scum, so our dear Mr JayJay54 choose the lesser evil and bussed lightz. He then talked about how lightz was a godfather, as only player of the thread. For some reason, it was important to him. I didn't notice that lightz was GF, till our dear Mr JayJay54 pointed it out.
Furthermore, if he had lynched Dirk, the chiefmason, and then that guy would have flipped red, then our dear Mr JayJay54 would have immediately caught suspicion. Why would a scum chiefmason not want to invite his scumbuddy into the circle, that in case one of the two scums dies, the other one can continue spying? The other two members were zel (town), and blazing (assuming town). Atm there is a high possibility of Dirk being scum. Ergo, our dear Mr JayJay54 is his scum buddy.

I admit, I have not much evidence, but: DO NOT TRUST THIS GUY. AT ALL.
It was exactly the same in Kaller.
What do you desire? Money? Glory? Power? Revenge? Or something that surpasses all other? Whatever you desire - that is here. Tower of God ¦¦Nutella, drink of the Gods
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
March 29 2012 21:13 GMT
#2171
@JJ: Nisani and Foolishness can't both be scum. We've already killed two sleepers and two scum. Kita's list had two sleepers on it, one scum and one townie. We killed one of those sleepers, leaving 1/1/1. Assuming there are four scum in total, one of the two of them have to be on that list. Therefore, Foolishness and Nisani are not both on the same scum team.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
March 29 2012 21:16 GMT
#2172
On March 30 2012 05:45 Kenpachi wrote:
and Nisani is indeed Mafia. you guys were all stupid when you lynched sinani


Well, He gave us a good invention with the colour radiator regardless of alignment.

On March 30 2012 05:51 blubbdavid wrote:
Ok, I need to OMGUS:
To any townie out there: Don't you find it suspicious that our dear Mr JayJay54 here is acting as town leader while surviving crazy nights of mass KP?
Is scum really to incompetent to kill him?
Furthermore, did you see how comfortably our dear Mr JayJay54 lynched Wiggles, a Sleeper. Now there was a 1/2 chance that Wiggles would flip sleeper and only a 1/4 chance for scum. Still, 1:4.

His voting behaviour: At the bluelightz lynch, he hopped on the lightz train pretty fast. Well, he had the choice between lightz and Dirk. I assume that both of these are scum, so our dear Mr JayJay54 choose the lesser evil and bussed lightz. He then talked about how lightz was a godfather, as only player of the thread. For some reason, it was important to him. I didn't notice that lightz was GF, till our dear Mr JayJay54 pointed it out.
Furthermore, if he had lynched Dirk, the chiefmason, and then that guy would have flipped red, then our dear Mr JayJay54 would have immediately caught suspicion. Why would a scum chiefmason not want to invite his scumbuddy into the circle, that in case one of the two scums dies, the other one can continue spying? The other two members were zel (town), and blazing (assuming town). Atm there is a high possibility of Dirk being scum. Ergo, our dear Mr JayJay54 is his scum buddy.

I admit, I have not much evidence, but: DO NOT TRUST THIS GUY. AT ALL.
It was exactly the same in Kaller.


Neat. But entirely wrong.

In case you forgot: I have the puppet strings. I can't be killed until the guy, I used it on is dead. It is as simple.

Don't you find suspicious how on the other hand the inventor is still alive? I mean, I am vocal, but a total PR with an inventor was at a silver plate. Interesting that this doesn't bother you.

I reasoned my vote on Wiggles. Nobody talked that night, I am sorry I let you down, I guess?

Same with bluelightz, you say I voted him, but I actually was part of the reason he got lynched. If I hadn't outed dirk as a Power role, Dirk would probably be lynched. And no we don't share an alignment. Don't you think that EVERY scum member has access to this QT if someone else is in it (See AC)? The spying continues, even if scums in there are dead. If you have a scum mason you don't use it on scum. Actually, if dirk flipped red that day, I'd look more town.

And why would I not just bus dirk who was on a plate that day, why would I bus someone else?

in addition:

Dirk's mason role is called telepathic testing, which doesn't fit scum flavourvise this game, he may be sleeper though based on the recent invites. I also find it suspicious how nisani has not talked a single word about you, even with you on the list.

@ghost. I assumed that the scum team is 5 people, which is possible considering that third parties may have an aligment.
It was still just a worst case. I am trying to think that through.
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
March 29 2012 21:33 GMT
#2173
ghost: As JJ wrote, we have no idea how many mafia there really are. Some originally thought 4, because there are 4 cells and we thought there are 4 3rd party members. We know by now that the last part is not true, as Kanti (Kita) was town and not 3rd party. It is therefore very well possible that mafia has 5 or 6 members.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
March 29 2012 21:40 GMT
#2174
Yeah, that's a good point.

Should that be the case, I can definitely see Foolishness and Nisani on the same scum team.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
March 29 2012 21:45 GMT
#2175
On March 30 2012 06:40 ghost_403 wrote:
Yeah, that's a good point.

Should that be the case, I can definitely see Foolishness and Nisani on the same scum team.


hmm. I just realized that Foolishness actually can't be scum. He was killed by scum. If no bus driver is involved they can only be sleeper buddies.

Which makes my whole arguement with david being protected wrong...(although I still think it's the right choice)
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
March 29 2012 21:50 GMT
#2176
...I don't follow.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
March 29 2012 21:53 GMT
#2177
foolishness was killed by lightz looking at the flavour. So assuming they don't kill each other, foolishness can only be town, third or sleeper...
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
March 29 2012 21:55 GMT
#2178
Foolishness Was sent to android hell, and Was Revived Day 3!


"Sent to android hell" is the kill flavor of bluelights, who was mafia:

+ Show Spoiler +
Welcome to Aperture Mafia! You are the Aperture Science Military Android. As an Aperture Science Military Android, you can take on the appearance of anything you like. Please remember that because the Aperture Science Robotic Obedience Programming is so complex, there is unfortunately no room in your memory for Creative Modeling or Self-Awareness. You will have to simply mirror whoever you visit, and will have no recollection of this in the morning. The Enrichment Center once again reminds you that Android Hell is a real place, where you will be sent at the first sign of defiance. Your Personal Kill Flavor is “was sent to Android Hell.”


It is highly unlikely that mafia kill off one of their own in the first night. Hence Foolishness is probably not mafia.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
March 29 2012 21:56 GMT
#2179
Yeah, just figured that out. Gotcha.

Too bad, that would have been a nice package.

I don't think Blubb is a bad lynch, but it's way too early in the day for me to cast a vote.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
March 29 2012 22:38 GMT
#2180
Lets not lose focus, here.

Nisani made a .. 'mistake' but it is easily correctable. We lynch, then Foolishness fires at the two remaining people in the list, regardless of the flip. Shot is wasted, damage to town is prevented.

Mementoss, where are your thoughts on each of the three lynch candidates? you said you were going to read all 3 filters, and that was 12 hours ago. Their filters really aren't that long -_- (that's part of the problem).

Ghost, you have 4 days worth of material to examine, it is hardly too early in the day for anyone to be casting votes.



I would prefer we lynch Dirk above the other two. I am not willing to 'wait and see' if Kita's night effect bumps him off. It didn't work last time, I am not willing to take the risk again.
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