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HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
June 16 2012 17:13 GMT
#361
On June 16 2012 21:21 Pandemona wrote:
For the record, Walcott's goal was not deflected xD Watched it 100s of times on HD TV and the keeper though it was swerving to the right or he compleltly didn't see it. It just kept straight and wobbled in the air as that's what these tango balls do.


Didn't watch it live but checked now and that looks like a knuckleball to me. There is a notable change of direction in the first 5 meters of flight after which the ball starts slowly turning thus losing most of it's curve and just goes straight.
It's not really the balls fault, although some balls don't start curling as easily as others causing knuckleballs more often.
We have seen a few interesting shots yet the tango is nothing like Jabulani from what I can tell.

Anyone feel free to watch that shot from top view and say that ball doesn't curve.
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dibban
Profile Joined July 2008
Sweden1279 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-16 17:28:13
June 16 2012 17:27 GMT
#362
Great game, well played England. Atleast we didn't embarrass ourselves!
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Sanctimonius
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom861 Posts
June 16 2012 17:36 GMT
#363
Yeah this is much better than the jabulani - that was an awful tournament ball. Whoever had the idea of making a completely new style of ball for the world tournament was an idiot.

Still maintain there was no deflection, just a wicked dip and a smart curve. Keeper just saw it change direction too late and was already going left.
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Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 16 2012 21:39 GMT
#364
On June 17 2012 02:13 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2012 21:21 Pandemona wrote:
For the record, Walcott's goal was not deflected xD Watched it 100s of times on HD TV and the keeper though it was swerving to the right or he compleltly didn't see it. It just kept straight and wobbled in the air as that's what these tango balls do.


Didn't watch it live but checked now and that looks like a knuckleball to me. There is a notable change of direction in the first 5 meters of flight after which the ball starts slowly turning thus losing most of it's curve and just goes straight.
It's not really the balls fault, although some balls don't start curling as easily as others causing knuckleballs more often.
We have seen a few interesting shots yet the tango is nothing like Jabulani from what I can tell.

Anyone feel free to watch that shot from top view and say that ball doesn't curve.


Yeah i agree,but i think the keeper (assuming he saw it) thought it was going to curl right and didn't. But i agree the ball is no where near as bad as the Jubalini, but i beleive it still wobbles in the air when hit hard and straight, it's not that off putting i don't think though, but hey i was never a keeper when playing so i cant judge.
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GarethGore
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom59 Posts
June 17 2012 06:25 GMT
#365
On June 16 2012 21:21 Pandemona wrote:
What a game, fuck me if England keep doing that i think many fans will die >.< stupid. So comfertable at HT to most anxious we have looked all tournament. Oh well a win is a win! GG Move on.

For the record, Walcott's goal was not deflected xD Watched it 100s of times on HD TV and the keeper though it was swerving to the right or he compleltly didn't see it. It just kept straight and wobbled in the air as that's what these tango balls do. But if Walcott and Rooney don't start vs Ukraine i will be very unhappy. Also Carroll deserves to play as well he was fantastic, defensively heading away corners and running around for 90minutes, best i have seen him play!



On June 16 2012 14:46 GTR wrote:
Watched this at the Casino. Amazing atmosphere, so many pom fans.
Hilarious to see Walcott score, get an assist, then immediately get injured.

Also Welbeck's touch was sooooooooooooo sick.
and it amazes me that Glen Johnson is starting for RB. I think everyone now wants Micah Richards there for future tournaments.

I wanted Micah Richards for this tournament. I'd rather play Phil Jones at right-back than Glen Johnson, and right-back isn't even his best position.[/QUOTE]



- It was wayyy too tense
- I don't think it was deflected, i think it just wobbled in the air and it put the keeper off, if you look at it from low angles the way it rises avoids the legs of the defenders.
- Rooney has already been confirmed don't worry. And Carroll shouldn't. He should start Welbeck + Rooney as strikers then young on the wing, he should use the Man United chemistry that's formed over a season, I will be super confused if he doesn't take advantage of that, then if it isn't working switch one or other for Jermain Defoe or Carroll. Carroll shouldn't be able to have a few good games in the EPL and one good game in a tournament and then replace Welbeck, that's so bad.
- Walcott should be put on later, he's a super sub, Milner is better in terms of tracking back whereas Walcott is a good player, he doesn't do anywhere near as much defensive work, I'd rather Milner start then Walcott switched for a midfielder who is having trouble with the pace, come on and work the fact that everyone is worn out.
-agreed with the Welbeck point, tremendous goal.
- Micah Richards refused to be a backup player, if he had I'm sure both he and Carrick would have got call ups when Lampard/Cahill etc. starting dropping out. Richards > Kelly all day errrreday. The sad part for me is that in future he should be a pretty big part for Englands future plans but if he is getting no international game time it may effect him in future. :\
- I'm not actually hating on glen Johnson though, I don't think he is a bad player at all but i do prefer Richards
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