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[TSL] Ro16 Week 1 Preview

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April 9th, 2011 03:38 GMT
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Saturday April 9th 18:00 GMT (+00:00)
Sunday April 10th 18:00 GMT (+00:00)
(Wiki)TSL3


By Xxio and tree.hugger

The TSL was once one of the easiest tournaments to predict. The mix of TL Open qualifiers and Korean super-stars had thousands filling their brackets with Tae Kuk symbols and leaving little hope for the underdog. As we all learned, these were ill-fated decisions. Thorzain was the first to disrupt the age-old hierarchy of Korean dominance. His crushing victory gave cause to hope that the TSL would stay multinational. A week after, Adelscott toppled the giant MVP. Thirteen days later and on the cusp of the round of 16, three Koreans remain.

The upsets that happened are what TSL 3 will be remembered for in the months and years to come. This is not, however, the whole story. While a few underdogs braved their way into the round of 16, many were not so fortunate. Feared StarCraft veterans Tyler, MC, and White-Ra lived up to their names with some of the tournament's most convincing wins and the StarCraft 1 Bonjwa Lee Yoon Yeol clutched out a win over TLO. In the round of 16 we will see whether the upsets in the opening round were ripples in the water, or the stirrings of something greater.

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Tyler's PvT is scary. He dismantled Strelok in the round of 32 and before that, beat Jinro in the PAX East Team Liquid Showmatch Series. One of the reasons for his success is that, in this matchup, it is hard to pin down Tyler's style of play. Equally capable of turtling his way to the lategame or putting on the heat with his first stalker, it is tough to predict what Tyler will bring to the table. For Thorzain, it's a bit of the opposite. In his TL Open #12 final games against Adelscott, and even at DreamHack in 2010, Thorzain consistently favoured to stay defensive on two bases while using drops to deal damage and poke at his opponent. If threatened by a one base build, he is happy to bunker up until his 2nd base kicks in, then counterattack. Thorzain relies heavily on harassment to keep the Protoss cooped up. I do not think this will work well against Tyler, who puts so much emphasis on multitasking and is certainly not a victim of 1 control group syndrome.

Bracket Contest: Tyler did not have the best showing at MLG Dallas but keep in mind that he only played 3 PvTs, two of which he lost to teammate TLO. I would not predict his TSL Ro16 performance based on this past weekend. The one thing about Tyler's play that worries me is that he can sometimes over commit to an attack and kill himself – as he did against TLO at Dallas and nearly did against Strelok in game 2 of the round of 32. Thorzain is practised in his harassment and has very offsetting builds that transition to mass thor, mech play, but I think unless he changes things up, he will be too predictable. Tyler will take it 3-1

Liquibet Stat: Tyler: 7495, Thorzain: 1912.
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This might be the most anticipated matchup of the whole month. After White-Ra's astounding, godlike win over MC in GSL's World Championship Team League, I think everyone has been waiting for April 9th to see the rematch. Most Protoss would agree that PvP is the most frustrating matchup to play, and I admit, it can get dull for the spectator. Some would even call it a coin flip matchup. The next time you hear this, look at MC's beast, 12-4 record in 2011. Absolutely ridiculous. It goes to show how precise control and lean build orders can consistently win even in PvP. In terms of control, White-Ra showed the world that he is second to none. I'm expecting the micro wars between MC and White-Ra to become the stuff of legend. However, when it comes to builds I do worry. White-Ra may have his sleeves stuffed with special tactics but doubts rise as to whether he can grind out 3 wins against MC's intensely refined build orders. White-Ra may be able to surprise MC in one or two games with warp prisms, but 3 games is pushing it.

Bracket Contest: I don't think that White-Ra's win in the World Championship Team League was a fluke. He is going to make MC earn what victories he gets. Each game is going to show the best of both players and to be honest, I have no idea how things will turn out. I can't wait.

Liquibet Stat: MC: 5667, White-Ra: 3775.
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<font size=4>[image loading] [image loading] FXO.qxc vs. Mill.Adelscott [image loading] [image loading]</font>

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Although he's suffered hiccups lately, IMmvp is still one of the strongest terrans in the world. However, he should have a challenge here from MvP.Genius, who plays protoss.

Wait a minute, what's that you say? Adelscott 2-0'd mvp? QXC 2-0'd Genius?

Wait what?

In the match-up that nobody expected, QXC and Adelscott will be going head to head here to keep their improbable TSL dream alive. There's a lot to love about this match. In particular, both players debuted unique styles in PvT against their Korean opponents. Adelscott's gateway heavy wrecking ball took mvp by surprise, but it will need to withstand the scrutiny that comes with success if the Frenchman is to continue on to the Round of eight. Similarly, QXC's adventurous late-game toolbox of nuke/reaper kept Genius off balance and gunshy in the second game of their series. But Adelscott should be less blindsided by the terran guerrilla warfare.

Curiously, I'd expect this match to be notable for what it doesn't include than what it does. Adelscott's gateway play is his staple, but I expect more variety of play than he showed against the wide-eyed mvp, whether that be normal colossi play or a quick all-in. Similarly, QXC will be hard pressed to spend time on late-game shenanigans unless the game slows down into it's really late stages.

Bracket Contest: In their TLOpen qualifying runs QXC and Adelscott actually played once, a Ro32 match-up that Adelscott won en route to his second place finish. However he struggled against ThorZaIN in the finals of that tournament, and is actually quite inconsistent in the match-up. In QXC's TLOpen win however, he demolished a tricky style from ZeeraX to qualify for the TSL. Overall, his TvP has been his strongest match-up statistically. These two series and stats are instructive. Overall, QXC simply has a stronger track record in this match-up, and has a solid and safe style that will serve him well against Adelscott's unwieldy play. The key to this match-up is whether or not QXC can be patient and diligent in scouting Adel's timings. If he's in form, he should be up to the task. QXC 3-1.

Liquibet Stat: Qxc: 4453, Adelscott: 4930.
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Capping off the weekend is one of the best TvT match-ups that could've been hoped for. After a fantastic TvT series against TLO, NaDa will be challenged in a completely different way against Kas, who is coming off a narrow escape against HayprO. Which of the two Liquid' killers will advance promises to be one of the hottest tickets of the Round of 16.

It's hard to call a favorite here. Kas has been consistently the best European terran for a long time. Strong mechanically and versatile in many styles, Kas is a punishing opponent. Every time Kas loses it's like seeing Bisu lose his scouting probe; you just don't believe how it could happen. But NaDa is goddamn NaDa, and his TvT has been his most prominent match-up in Sc2 to date, even if it hasn't been his best statistically. His performance against TLO was pitch perfect, and he should be more comfortable with external factors like server lag this time around.

Bracket Contest: This is an exceedingly tough match to call (aren't they all though?) but I favor Kas, if ever so slightly. To remain among Europe's elite as nearly everyone else has risen and fallen weekly is a stunning feat. Kas always seems to be a little overlooked, but when you seem him play it's impossible to ignore all of his winning. Not only can he compete with NaDa on even terms, but he should have an advantage in perparation that will carry him to victory. Kas 3-2.

Liquibet Stat: NaDa: 7176, Kas: 2252.
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ROOTheognis
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States4482 Posts
April 09 2011 03:39 GMT
#2
awesome!
If you avoid your weakness, it will remain your weakness. www.twitter.com/#!/rootheognis Follow me!
kenwoo
Profile Joined August 2010
United States484 Posts
April 09 2011 03:40 GMT
#3
yeah cannot wait for 2morrow
iPBioOrMech
Profile Joined May 2010
Turkey297 Posts
April 09 2011 03:43 GMT
#4
Haha thats freaken funny nice nice cant wait =D
i created scan BM, MvP created mule drop.
Invoker
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium686 Posts
April 09 2011 03:43 GMT
#5
great
There is no fate, but what we make.
PrAeToR.FeNiX
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada361 Posts
April 09 2011 03:44 GMT
#6
man thats goin tobe sick good
En taro Adun!
yiodee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States137 Posts
April 09 2011 03:47 GMT
#7
love the white-ra poster
man we will have an epic weekend, and this matchup between MC and white-ra will show ppl how it takes a lot of skill to PvP
Houron
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97 Posts
April 09 2011 03:48 GMT
#8
I hope i can watch this
Give me something to shoot!
SiDX
Profile Joined July 2009
New Zealand1975 Posts
April 09 2011 03:49 GMT
#9
those pics are full of pure hype!
Enervate
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1769 Posts
April 09 2011 03:50 GMT
#10
I'm surprised the Liquibet was so heavily in favor of Nada over Kas. I voted for Nada, too, but I wouldn't consider it an upset if Kas won. He's been showing really great play recently. I'm also surprised qxc isn't more of a favorite again Adelscott.

Really excited for the games, especially for Tyler to show me some new strats for PvT!
DisaFear
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia4074 Posts
April 09 2011 03:54 GMT
#11
Hype! White-Ra, pull it off and you are forever a rockstar
How devious | http://anartisticanswer.blogspot.com.au/
dudecrush
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada418 Posts
April 09 2011 03:56 GMT
#12
oui oui!

I am so hyped for WhiteLoad.Ra vs. MC. This is going to be epic!
Kon-Tiki
Profile Joined February 2011
United States402 Posts
April 09 2011 04:00 GMT
#13
Some damn good cheerfuls. They do the games credit, there's some very exciting ones this weekend
I am a leaf on the wind. Watch how I soar.
DX_4
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany180 Posts
April 09 2011 04:01 GMT
#14
Can't wait.
After my "phenomenal success" predicting the outcome of the previous days of the TSL3 (*cough cough*) I've decided to go with the general swing of things and just click randomly to see where that gets me ^^
Personal favourite of the day are MC vs. WhiteRa and NaDa vs. Kas.
There is no spoon
jmols
Profile Joined October 2010
New Zealand41 Posts
April 09 2011 04:08 GMT
#15
lol at the white ra 007 mock up. Exciting games these first two days, cant wait.
I'm picking Adelscott over QXC though
see you space cowboy...
Elite__
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada976 Posts
April 09 2011 04:11 GMT
#16
lol the whitera cheerful is awesome XD
Santi
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Colombia466 Posts
April 09 2011 04:11 GMT
#17
NaDa is so hot right now.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
April 09 2011 04:18 GMT
#18
Can't wait :D.

are there going to be no interviews this week?
When I think of something else, something will go here
elmizzt
Profile Joined February 2010
United States3309 Posts
April 09 2011 04:20 GMT
#19
On April 09 2011 13:11 Santi wrote:
NaDa is so hot right now.

Truer words have never been spoken.
d=(^_^)z
HQuality
Profile Joined October 2009
2682 Posts
April 09 2011 04:21 GMT
#20
Liquibet Stat: NaDa: 7176, Kas: 2252.
lolwut?
kas gonna 2-0'ed nada. U will see.
No carpal tunnel no skill
Mawi
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden4365 Posts
April 09 2011 04:30 GMT
#21
gogo kas, Whitera !!!!
so hyped for this >:
Forever Mirin Zyzz Son of Zeus Brother of Hercules Father of the Aesthetics
CooDu
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia899 Posts
April 09 2011 04:35 GMT
#22
Messed up my entire sleep pattern to watch this, ladder all night then TSL, that's the life.
Just a simple guy, going wherever this journey takes me.
garlicface
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada4196 Posts
April 09 2011 04:41 GMT
#23
Special tactics!

Hoping for Tyler, Ra, qxc, and NaDa.
#TeamBuLba
Freakazoid
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5 Posts
April 09 2011 04:42 GMT
#24
Nada vs Kas is going to be such a good game!
Too bad MC kinda gave away some results in in GSL WC Team League..
:\ Still really looking forward to it!!
Dante.Lass
Profile Joined September 2010
Brazil21 Posts
April 09 2011 04:42 GMT
#25
Yay for the Z matches!!!!





Oh wait....
Geniuszerg
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada454 Posts
April 09 2011 04:44 GMT
#26
nada, white-ra, qxc, tyler hwaiting!
vahgar.r24
Profile Joined October 2010
India465 Posts
April 09 2011 04:49 GMT
#27
On April 09 2011 13:42 Dante.Lass wrote:
Yay for the Z matches!!!!





Oh wait....


No Z very sad...love the MC cheerful!
Somethings are just worth fighting for
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14892 Posts
April 09 2011 04:56 GMT
#28
go tyler
crfty
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States174 Posts
April 09 2011 05:04 GMT
#29
So excited! This is by far the best tournament that I have watched in all of Starcraft!
MechKing
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3004 Posts
April 09 2011 05:05 GMT
#30
Go Kas, qxc, ThorZain + Whitera!
kawoq
Profile Joined November 2005
Guatemala357 Posts
April 09 2011 05:12 GMT
#31
please internet dont fail to me again... this weekend is going to be awesome!!!
"It is not a shameful thing to be unable to reach the goal. It's becoming afraid and running away, even before considering the fact that the road is long and rough, that is truly cowardly." by - Lim Yo Hwan aka SlayerS_Boxer from "Crazy as me"
evilshady
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany16 Posts
April 09 2011 05:16 GMT
#32
lol @ the portraits showing 2 koreans, 2 Americans and no European
shame on you
Wanny
Profile Joined January 2011
United States23 Posts
April 09 2011 05:18 GMT
#33
No interest in watching any of these games, without zergs the tournament is going to be the same typical shit and boring to watch. PvT match up isn't fun to watch, MC v Whitera should be good though
YEssssa
Cush
Profile Joined September 2010
United States646 Posts
April 09 2011 05:19 GMT
#34
QXC FIGHTING!!!!!!!
Hope White Ra wins
"That's not your main base Stardust.....Stardust.....that's not your main" Sayle
iamamish
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States76 Posts
April 09 2011 05:25 GMT
#35
Duckload Ra fighting
dont worry...thats halo- huk
Jman5
Profile Joined September 2010
United States745 Posts
April 09 2011 05:26 GMT
#36
Why is Tyler drawn to look like a serial killer?
Tatari
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1179 Posts
April 09 2011 05:29 GMT
#37
How does qxc sit on a folding chair like that? @_@
A fed jungler is no longer a jungler, but a terrorist.
Zedex
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom310 Posts
April 09 2011 05:40 GMT
#38
On April 09 2011 12:38 Xxio wrote:
White-Ra may have his sleeves stuffed with special tactics
rofl.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
ArnaudF
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
France993 Posts
April 09 2011 05:45 GMT
#39
No way QXC is gonna beat Adel.
My heart aches with pain, When I see you I vomit, Die away from me
Jampackedeon
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2053 Posts
April 09 2011 06:01 GMT
#40
White.Ra. + MC. Nuff said. This will be epic!!
tnt_titan
Profile Joined June 2007
Canada194 Posts
April 09 2011 06:02 GMT
#41
how come when you click on empirekas's name, it links to you white_ra's profile? lol
Sixotanaka
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia191 Posts
April 09 2011 06:09 GMT
#42
Can't wait to see what Tyler has planned.
Jesushooves
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada553 Posts
April 09 2011 06:13 GMT
#43
Cmon guys, Thorzain convincingly demolished Fruitdealer, and that was a tvz, Thorzain is probably the only pro terran atm that says tvp is his best Match up, I may end up eating my words, but....
THORZAIN HWAITING!
Lose its good, after will be win.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
April 09 2011 06:13 GMT
#44
I've never been so excited to watch mirror match ups. Especially Protoss.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
thesmoosh
Profile Joined September 2010
113 Posts
April 09 2011 06:15 GMT
#45
On April 09 2011 13:21 HQuality wrote:
Liquibet Stat: NaDa: 7176, Kas: 2252.
lolwut?
kas gonna 2-0'ed nada. U will see.

Agreed. Nada, like most famous BW players is heavily overestimated by the TL community.
Carson
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada820 Posts
April 09 2011 06:21 GMT
#46
But NaDa is The goddamn NaDa, and his TvT has been his most prominent match-up in Sc2 to date, even if it hasn't been his best statistically.


fix'd

every match this weekend is buckets of epic!
"You have to remember something: Everybody pities the weak; jealousy you have to earn." Arnold Schwarzenegger
Teeny
Profile Joined March 2010
Austria885 Posts
April 09 2011 06:30 GMT
#47
Wow, this matchups are so sick. I just can´t wait for them to happen.
Especialy White-Ra vs. MC
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
April 09 2011 06:54 GMT
#48
I really hope we see some special tactics from WhiteRa that win it for him... but I just can't see MC losing a bo5 PvP when they will both be playing in Korea... While no one questions WhiteRa being an amazing player... I really think that him winning would be the biggest upset of the tournament. Hopefully it happens though! Go WhiteRa!
xZiGGY
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom801 Posts
April 09 2011 06:54 GMT
#49
no cheerful for Kas? :< poor Kas
Meh.
Billyssjssfj
Profile Joined April 2011
104 Posts
April 09 2011 07:08 GMT
#50
Nerd boners on my face. Can't wait for the games!
TheDominator
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
New Zealand336 Posts
April 09 2011 07:08 GMT
#51
Holy crap this will be awesome.
A bit suprised Nada is favoured over Kas by heaps of ppl. I think it is just because they want Nada to win. Tbh, he hasn't been performing brilliantly in Sc2, and Kas has been doing quite well, so I think Kas should take this 3-1 or 3-2.
Tyler and Duckload fighting!!!!
You can go a long way with a smile. You can go a lot farther with a smile and a gun.
MasterZilla
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Sweden234 Posts
April 09 2011 07:16 GMT
#52
On April 09 2011 13:21 HQuality wrote:
Liquibet Stat: NaDa: 7176, Kas: 2252.
lolwut?
kas gonna 2-0'ed nada. U will see.


I doubt it, since it's a Bo5
I'm thinking Kas might take a game or two here, and I hope he manages to squeeze out a victory.

And I feel bad about not cheering for my countryman, but I hope Tyler takes this. Chilltoss fighting!
For Aiur! - If you reach for the stars and miss, you still might end up walking among the clouds.
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
April 09 2011 07:28 GMT
#53
Is no problem, I use special tactics. Man I hope Ra beats MC, he's such a baller.
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
April 09 2011 07:35 GMT
#54
Go Adel, Whitera !!!!!!
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Jesushooves
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada553 Posts
April 09 2011 08:15 GMT
#55
Has anyone seen top 200 europeans play tvt? Shit is ridiculous. Having said that, Nada is also ridiculous. I am hoping for a close series, and I doubt a 3-0 from either side is possible, but gotta give it to Nada.
Lose its good, after will be win.
iMp.will.
Profile Joined July 2009
Bulgaria441 Posts
April 09 2011 08:21 GMT
#56
Tyler and Ra ftw!
Bonke
Profile Joined October 2010
Lithuania3 Posts
April 09 2011 09:09 GMT
#57
On April 09 2011 15:02 tnt_titan wrote:
how come when you click on empirekas's name, it links to you white_ra's profile? lol


White-ra everywhere joke at its best.
Kentakky
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden1272 Posts
April 09 2011 09:16 GMT
#58
Kas nr1 Terran in Europe, says a lot when almost everyone in EU is fucking Terran, Nada gonna get slaughtered 3 - 1.
My immune system is so strong that I have to get AIDS just to be normal.
GinNtoniC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Sweden2945 Posts
April 09 2011 09:25 GMT
#59
I especially like bringing current liquibet stats into the hype/preview thread. Can't wait for these games!
Huge fan of JulyZerg, HonestTea and that guy Kim Taek Yong.
Existential
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2107 Posts
April 09 2011 09:26 GMT
#60
Thanks for the write up! Hopefully MC and NaDa can make it through!
Jaedong <3 | BW - The first game I ever loved
ComusLoM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Norway3547 Posts
April 09 2011 09:44 GMT
#61
On April 09 2011 13:21 HQuality wrote:
Liquibet Stat: NaDa: 7176, Kas: 2252.
lolwut?
kas gonna 2-0'ed nada. U will see.

His strength is such that he does not need to even play game three in a best of five!

That Nada cheerful is epic. This is going to be epic x3 I have my curry and ben and jerry's read :D
"The White Woman Speaks in Tongues That Are All Lies" - Incontrol; Member #37 of the Chill Fanclub
bravehu
Profile Joined April 2011
2 Posts
April 09 2011 09:46 GMT
#62
什么时候啊

User was warned for this post
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38156 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-09 10:22:25
April 09 2011 10:18 GMT
#63
I've still not been overly impressed by Tyler, but I'll probably back him since it's a PvT and regardless of Thorzain apparently liking it, toss players have really got a lot of things figured out very nicely of late. Couple that with Tyler excelling in matches he can prepare for and I think he'll have what it takes, even if the amount of source material on Thorzain's recent TvP is limited.

MC should beat WhiteRa, he's just flat out better. It's PvP though so who knows, a couple of build order wins can easily happen for either player. Very happy that has been played on the Korean server though since PvP really suffers from latency.

QXC is going to destroy Adelscott if he's done even the slightest bit of prep. He loves harass, and he's fantastic at doing it. On the other hand Adel's mechanics past mid game are weak and he really seems to struggle with multitasking, I fully expect QXC to drop the shit out of him and get a massive lead while Adel falls apart.

Kas vs Nada is the hardest match to call because of all the unknowns; how will the latency affect things (it's not exactly good from the Ukraine either), has Nada put in much practice recently, does either player know much about their opponents stylistic preferences etc etc. Kas is probably the best Terran in Europe right now and he's rock solid in everything he does, but if Nada has been practicing I do think he'll edge this.
gentile
Profile Joined August 2007
Switzerland594 Posts
April 09 2011 10:55 GMT
#64
thorzain, i think easily but we will see.
white ra!!! hopfeully but will be hard.
kas, despite <3 nada the ukraine star will take it, espcially since this is tvt
adelscott, this is the closest match thought..but i like this style.
DerNebel
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark648 Posts
April 09 2011 11:19 GMT
#65
Gogo Tyler! We can't see every liquid player out of the liquid tournament in the Ro16!
HyruleanTubist
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States189 Posts
April 09 2011 11:33 GMT
#66
omg the Adelscott cheerful made me laugh so hard. Can't wait for today's games, if MC vs White-Ra can't make PvP interesting I don't know what can.
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
April 09 2011 11:49 GMT
#67
On April 09 2011 19:18 Asha` wrote:
MC should beat WhiteRa, he's just flat out better. It's PvP though so who knows, a couple of build order wins can easily happen for either player. Very happy that has been played on the Korean server though since PvP really suffers from latency.


I don't know. Seeing WhiteRa vs MC in the World vs Korea, WhiteRa definetely looked solid and made MC look shaky. Bar MC's lone Stalker awesomeness, he didn't look better than WhiteRa at any point in the match. I reckon MC will also have a hard time figuring out WhiteRa's Warp Prism style, as there are few players capable of fighting - and winning - with Warp Prisms.

[/QUOTE]QXC is going to destroy Adelscott if he's done even the slightest bit of prep. He loves harass, and he's fantastic at doing it. On the other hand Adel's mechanics past mid game are weak and he really seems to struggle with multitasking, I fully expect QXC to drop the shit out of him and get a massive lead while Adel falls apart.[/QUOTE]

I disagree again here. Adel's multitasking looks solid to me, too, which is to be expected with his mass gate style. I think the mass gate style is one that T players will have to spend time figuring out, as it is very different and doesn't have any obvious weaknesses. QXC's style normally works very well against either FE or fast Colossus because both of those are innately weak to harassment, but Adel's mass gate is the opposite. QXC might have to play a long macro game without harassment, and will find that quite tricky.
rexob
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden202 Posts
April 09 2011 12:09 GMT
#68
love the previews, it puts words on my thoughts, even though i think that Adel will win vs qxc, his style just favors him so much as qxc is the one who uses drops alot more and abuses immobility and gateway-units aren't immobile
it's a good day to die
PapaPandroni
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden11 Posts
April 09 2011 12:11 GMT
#69
Thorzains TvP is insane! Perhaps best in Europe. I think he will be able to beat Tyler 3-0 or 3-1
"Mind what you have learned. Save you it can.”
rexob
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden202 Posts
April 09 2011 12:21 GMT
#70
I think that Tyler will take it as long as he prepares. with prep, he will win rather convincingly but with out he will lose like 3-1

MC probably is going to take it vs whiteRa even though i really, really hope that he doesn't. this also comes down to preperations, if whiteRa is in his element and don't make any mistakes and have some builds prepared, i think he could very well take it, and i hope so, but if he makes some mistakes, MC will have a rather easy time.

qxc vs Adel - i'd say Adel is going to take it unless qxc have some prepared builds just for the style, something mech-oriented, because if Adel just has his multitasking a little bit going, his mobile gateway-army won't take any damage from qxc's harassment, the harassment is only good vs the immobile coloussous, etc.

and i'd say that nada will win if he goes for harasment and as goes for slow tank-pushing, but oterwise i'd give the win to kas
it's a good day to die
Mateo0
Profile Joined August 2010
France112 Posts
April 09 2011 12:48 GMT
#71
I just can't wait for Adel's games!

Allez la France!
m4553 always in my heart.
vdale
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1173 Posts
April 09 2011 13:04 GMT
#72
Predictions:
Thorzain > Tyler
MC > White-Ra
Adelscott > QXC
Kas > Nada


MattRz
Profile Joined April 2011
Chile1680 Posts
April 09 2011 13:26 GMT
#73
Best of Luck Tyler !
Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake ♞
shinarit
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary900 Posts
April 09 2011 13:38 GMT
#74
So many protoss :O
Well, Thorzain is more than capable of beating them off, and will be nice to see MC crushed again by the old man :D
Also, qxc vs adel will be sick, both of them play a very interesting style.
T for BoxeR, Z for IdrA, P because i have no self-respect
Lucidx
Profile Joined December 2010
United States122 Posts
April 09 2011 14:33 GMT
#75
I am so stoked for this. QXC fighting!
" I would rather get AIDS then get hit by a bus then have my expansion blocked by a pylon" - Day[9]
Leach
Profile Joined December 2010
United States536 Posts
April 09 2011 14:56 GMT
#76
I'm looking forward for all the good Zergs fighting! sigh
AWakefield
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada420 Posts
April 09 2011 14:56 GMT
#77
Voting is pretty close on QXC-Adelscott despite the 3-1 prediction. I'm torn on who to cheer for. I guess I wont find out until the match.

Other then that. Go Tyler =D
DruidzHistory
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden231 Posts
April 09 2011 15:03 GMT
#78
lol'd hard at the Thorzain picture and the white-ra special tactics haha
Sanjuro
Profile Joined November 2010
Indonesia252 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-09 16:06:15
April 09 2011 15:19 GMT
#79
ill always follow my heart in liquibets from now on, maybe if enough people wish it, it will come true.

didnt know it was BO5 had to edit my predictions

Tyler 3:0 Thorzain
White Ra 3:1 MC
QXC 3:1 Adelscott
Nada 3:2 Kas

There will always be special tactics, GO GO GO GO White Ra
im the Villain of the Story, im not meant to be saved
Loljke
Profile Joined January 2011
Ukraine246 Posts
April 09 2011 15:20 GMT
#80
gogo RA!
o.o
Loljke
Profile Joined January 2011
Ukraine246 Posts
April 09 2011 15:21 GMT
#81
On April 10 2011 00:19 Sanjuro wrote:
ill always follow my heart in liquibets from now on, maybe if enough people wish it, it will come true.

Tyler 2:0 Thorzain
White Ra 2:1 MC
QXC 2:1 Adelscott
Nada 2:1 Kas

There will always be special tactics, GO GO GO GO White Ra



Im from Ukraine but i still think its 2-1 MC-RA and 2-1 or 2-0 Adelscott QXC
o.o
StrinterN
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark531 Posts
April 09 2011 15:22 GMT
#82
Nice writeup
looking forward to see tyler and whiteRa in action :D
Twitter: @Strintern Stream: http://www.twitch.tv/strintern
Tobon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States372 Posts
April 09 2011 15:31 GMT
#83
For the people doing predictions: it's BO5 in this round, guys, not BO3.

My WhiteRa vs. MC prediction: We all are struck blind by overexposure to pure awesomeness.
Loljke
Profile Joined January 2011
Ukraine246 Posts
April 09 2011 15:35 GMT
#84
Game if this week is definitely MC vs White-RA
o.o
MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-09 15:46:28
April 09 2011 15:46 GMT
#85
lmao at "adventurous late game toolbox"

no idea why that cracked me up but it was hilarious. That reaper Nuke shenanigans against Genius was so awesome to watch.

Here's hoping for special tactics!
"One fish, two fish, red fish, BLUE TANK!" - Artosis
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
April 09 2011 15:46 GMT
#86
Some serious overhyping of Tyler, I expect a simply sensational, dominant performance from him, haven't seen anything to justify the hype he gets, so I expect to be impressed today.

BlackAut
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria58 Posts
April 09 2011 15:48 GMT
#87
really nice! i don t like mirrors, but MC vs WhiteRA & Nada vs Kas, i gotta like it ^^

hope the europeans can take out one of the remaining koreans, i ll hold my thumbs for both but i give Kas better chances then WhiteRA
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
April 09 2011 15:49 GMT
#88
gotta love nada. Comon, I believe
PhotographerLiquipedia. Drop me a pm if you've got questions/need help.
FlattLine
Profile Joined January 2011
80 Posts
April 09 2011 15:51 GMT
#89
My predictions:
MC 3-0 Ra ( unfortunately)
Nada 3-2 Kas
CaptainCrush
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States785 Posts
April 09 2011 16:06 GMT
#90
Adellscott fighting with baguettes.... lol
Alou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States3748 Posts
April 09 2011 16:22 GMT
#91
I'm extremely excited.
Life is Good.
TemplarCo.
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico2870 Posts
April 09 2011 16:25 GMT
#92
On April 09 2011 13:21 HQuality wrote:
Liquibet Stat: NaDa: 7176, Kas: 2252.
lolwut?
kas gonna 2-0'ed nada. U will see.


Not sure if he'll sweep it but he'll give one heck of a fight!!

WhiteRa vs MC!! SO HYPED!! :DDD
With an average game length of 7m36s over his 6 games in GSL3, this is a no-brainer. BitByBit pulls more SCVs than yo momma at a club on Mar Sara. ♞
Lobo2me
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway1213 Posts
April 09 2011 16:28 GMT
#93
Just saying that the first post doesn't say at all that the 2 last games are on sunday. It's on the liquipedia but it took some time to find. And when looking on the liquipedia it looks like Sen vs. BoxeR and MorroW vs. HasuObs is today.
Bad manners are better than no manners at all.
EliteReplay
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Dominican Republic913 Posts
April 09 2011 16:38 GMT
#94
lol at those pictures haha
if play random i can't call any race imba?
tensionz
Profile Joined October 2010
United States130 Posts
April 09 2011 16:45 GMT
#95
Woo it's almost time.
loveeholicce
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Korea (South)785 Posts
April 09 2011 16:50 GMT
#96
Mc's strength is in his micro and build orders. I haven't been to impressed with his managment games. However its PvP, which plays more to MC's strength so I definitely think he'll come out ahead
상처받은 그대에 가슴에 사랑을 심어줄께요♥
TOCHMY
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden1692 Posts
April 09 2011 17:02 GMT
#97
White-Ra will deploy his special taktiks and win 3-2 ; )
Yoona <3 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Look! It's Totoro! ☉.☉☂
Champi
Profile Joined March 2010
1422 Posts
April 09 2011 17:22 GMT
#98
tyler fighting, stayin up till 4am australian time just to watch him =D
HEROwithNOlegacy
Profile Joined June 2010
United States850 Posts
April 09 2011 17:32 GMT
#99
MC vs White ra is going to be so sick, I am going to try and order the pizza so it is at my door exactly when game 1 between MC and White ra starts .
SlayerS Fighting!
Caspas
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany157 Posts
April 09 2011 17:39 GMT
#100
Even if I cheer for White.Ra i guess a BO5 works in MC's favour, because four-gate wins about 60 to 70 % of PvP's. (Just the impression I have)
Melter
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Bulgaria67 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-09 17:42:52
April 09 2011 17:42 GMT
#101
I'm glad TSL is at 8 pm in my timezone and not in the early morning
Can't wait! MC fighting!
Cha1R
Profile Joined November 2010
United States221 Posts
April 09 2011 17:44 GMT
#102
TYLER!! WIN!!!!
rutian
Profile Joined November 2010
Turkey288 Posts
April 09 2011 18:03 GMT
#103
build up video in the stream was epic!
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
April 09 2011 18:04 GMT
#104
You guys do realise it's a BO5 today right?

Haha.

2:0 doesn't win anything!!

Ro16 matches are Best-of-5 Series
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
Djinx
Profile Joined February 2011
18 Posts
April 09 2011 18:36 GMT
#105
Great posters :D I'm a little sad there aren't any zergs playing this week
Bademester
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark18 Posts
April 09 2011 18:55 GMT
#106
story behind that QXC picture with the chair? =)
SuperStyle
Profile Joined March 2011
United States976 Posts
April 09 2011 19:04 GMT
#107
Wish writers were a little less biased towards NA players.
MikeC_81
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada10 Posts
April 09 2011 19:16 GMT
#108
Does anyone know if Hype posters was done for Ro16 days?
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
April 09 2011 20:47 GMT
#109
Missed it taking ACT OES NOESE.

Time to run over to youtube for the VODs, I'm sure they are all excellent games.
nenKilla
Profile Joined September 2010
Philippines13 Posts
April 09 2011 23:09 GMT
#110
NADA FTW!
bring e-sports here in the Philippines
NexCa
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany954 Posts
April 10 2011 00:26 GMT
#111
nice !
Best Protoss Player 4 ever - Bisu[Shield] || http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=326242 || THIS IS WHERE WE STAND, THIS IS WHERE THEY FALL, GIVE THEM NOTHING, BUT TAKE FROM THEM EVERYTHING ! || SKT FIGHTIIING
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
April 10 2011 00:55 GMT
#112
I cannot see Kas losing to Nada.
Scriptix
Profile Joined December 2010
United States145 Posts
April 10 2011 00:56 GMT
#113
Both of my picks lost today =(
growlizing
Profile Joined February 2011
Norway122 Posts
April 10 2011 01:39 GMT
#114
WhiteRa poster is brilliant
And thanks for the quick vods.
aaronbaymd
Profile Joined April 2011
7 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-10 09:56:26
April 10 2011 02:40 GMT
#115
Logarythm
Profile Joined November 2010
United States264 Posts
April 10 2011 02:51 GMT
#116
QXC fighting!
Making bad decisions.
yowza
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland210 Posts
April 10 2011 05:37 GMT
#117
On April 10 2011 00:46 AxionSteel wrote:
Some serious overhyping of Tyler, I expect a simply sensational, dominant performance from him, haven't seen anything to justify the hype he gets, so I expect to be impressed today.


I was expecting the same, still haven't seen anything in sc2 to justify his hype. Sure, he was good at BW but seriously, how long are people gonna keep hyping him? Especially with his lackluster performances again and again.
derp
ionize
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Ireland399 Posts
April 10 2011 08:23 GMT
#118
Oh wow, it's gonna be awesome. Nice read!
I just love video games, what's your excuse?
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4858 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-10 11:23:30
April 10 2011 11:22 GMT
#119
Why aren't these [image loading][image loading][image loading] used on the calendar as well?
I do not understand.
Edit: That way it would be a whole lot easier to tell if it's about SC2 or BW as well!
FBH #1!
zMass
Profile Joined January 2011
United States29 Posts
April 10 2011 12:37 GMT
#120
i hope today will be better then yesterdays games..
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
April 10 2011 12:46 GMT
#121
On April 10 2011 21:37 zMass wrote:
i hope today will be better then yesterdays games..

100%
Moderator
Drybelkin
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5 Posts
April 10 2011 15:03 GMT
#122
Kas is going to smash NaDa. Korea? What's that? haha
DevourerC
Profile Joined March 2011
Romania1 Post
April 10 2011 15:22 GMT
#123
when strats? where i can see stream?
Tenspeed
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden28 Posts
April 10 2011 15:23 GMT
#124
Oh my but the ThorZain cheerful is just brilliant! Anywho, in spite of all the madmen turned prophets this TSL predicting the downfall of top koreans, I say Nada will 3-1 Kas.
"Beliefs are the foundation of actions. Those who believed without doubting, he would say, acted without thinking. And those who acted without thinking were enslaved" -R S. B
dubRa
Profile Joined December 2008
2165 Posts
April 10 2011 15:55 GMT
#125
Qxc 3:2 Adel
Kas 3:0 Nada

Kas is a beast!
Rinrun
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada3509 Posts
April 10 2011 16:10 GMT
#126
Nada 3-0 ezpz.
Kas is lucky that he isn't in the same room as him- Nada's body would paralyze him.
MBC/Liquid/TSM always.
Nilzone
Profile Joined January 2011
Norway23 Posts
April 10 2011 17:05 GMT
#127
Hahaha :D White-Ra's pictures was AWESOME
Nilzone
Profile Joined January 2011
Norway23 Posts
April 10 2011 17:09 GMT
#128
Hahaha :D White-Ra's pictures was AWESOME
JustinMartin
Profile Joined November 2010
159 Posts
April 10 2011 17:13 GMT
#129
i love tsl so much,cant wait for qxc vs adelscott
i want see some cool action by qxc,and im sure we will see that^^
OHKae
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada45 Posts
April 10 2011 17:23 GMT
#130
ahh I was scared for MC 'cause John translated that MC lost to a foreigner in the TSL .... (which would be WhiteRa) but he was "actually" talking about the FXOpen ...

MC fighting !
and there should be less MC haters from now on, 'cause he only 4 gated once xD
AmiPolizeiFunk
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany804 Posts
April 10 2011 17:34 GMT
#131
nice cheerfuls in the OP
Lucidx
Profile Joined December 2010
United States122 Posts
April 10 2011 17:37 GMT
#132
Cheerfuls were awesome.
" I would rather get AIDS then get hit by a bus then have my expansion blocked by a pylon" - Day[9]
Taiko
Profile Joined October 2010
Austria78 Posts
April 10 2011 18:04 GMT
#133
QXC + Nada winning.
m3o
Profile Joined May 2010
2 Posts
April 10 2011 18:09 GMT
#134
Qxc 2:3 Adel
Kas 3:1 Nada

Kas and Adel <3
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
April 10 2011 20:39 GMT
#135
On April 11 2011 03:09 m3o wrote:
Qxc 2:3 Adel
Kas 3:1 Nada

Kas and Adel <3


+ Show Spoiler +
almost
maru lover forever
Khosa
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1 Post
April 10 2011 20:50 GMT
#136
4 Terran
4 Protoss
0 Zerg

I was wondering why I was dizzy but then I realized it must be because of all the imbalance.

User was banned for this post.
Very nice how much?
Dasdude
Profile Joined November 2010
United States45 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-10 22:34:28
April 10 2011 22:26 GMT
#137
Yess Adel! Would be sick as hell if a French player won TSL!
Quote?
MeteorRise
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada611 Posts
April 10 2011 22:46 GMT
#138
I want NaDa to win, but i have a strong feeling Kas is gonna eat him like a delicious snack. Q_Q
Elegance, in all things.
Sansucal
Profile Joined October 2007
Germany259 Posts
April 11 2011 12:25 GMT
#139
Nada didn't practice much recently, is that right?
kernl
Profile Joined October 2008
84 Posts
April 11 2011 17:25 GMT
#140
On April 11 2011 21:25 Sansucal wrote:
Nada didn't practice much recently, is that right?


even so. the only player left in the TSL that i would put my money on against kas is MC. and even then i think i still might be nervous.
desu
KahunaNui
Profile Joined October 2010
Spain257 Posts
April 11 2011 18:22 GMT
#141
We require more interviews.
Q. You've been criticized for using cheesy builds in the past, but now people are saying that you've played some good games today. A. I'm glad that they think that way, but that won't stop me from using cheesy builds.(oGsHyperdub)
ScythedBlade
Profile Joined May 2010
308 Posts
April 11 2011 20:47 GMT
#142
On April 11 2011 05:50 Khosa wrote:
4 Terran
4 Protoss
0 Zerg

I was wondering why I was dizzy but then I realized it must be because of all the imbalance.

User was banned for this post.


=/ I think it's mostly agreed that Zerg is pretty overpowered to the point where Zerg has an slight edge against P/fairly balanced. (Somewhat offset by the appearance of nice P timing attacks).

But anyway, AWESOME GAMES SO FAR =D
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