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Bifur
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Russian Federation1208 Posts
December 15 2009 18:00 GMT
#3481
When will we see the final ladder standings?
ketomai
Profile Joined June 2007
United States2789 Posts
December 15 2009 18:03 GMT
#3482
On December 16 2009 02:55 ZlyKiss wrote:
Idra should have autowin in TSL
anything below first prize will be his failure as a pro

imo


?? I hope I'm not falling for a troll. I hate dumb statements like these. He's not a failure because it's taken certain other players just as long or longer than he has...Flash took 1.5 years to even get a proleague spot and he's flash.
dranjam
Profile Joined May 2008
Poland198 Posts
December 15 2009 18:14 GMT
#3483
On December 16 2009 03:03 ketomai wrote:
?? I hope I'm not falling for a troll. I hate dumb statements like these. He's not a failure because it's taken certain other players just as long or longer than he has...Flash took 1.5 years to even get a proleague spot and he's flash.

The difference is Flash competed against a range of players who just like him spend 13 hours a day playing SC and get payed for it, while Idra in TSL competes against people who play 5-6 hours a day because they like to.
If Idra is a progamer, in opposition to the foreigners that he looks down on, he should be able to dominate foreigners just like progamers do. If he looses, he fails to prove this. ZlyKiss wrote like a troll, but he made a point.
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight with you, then you win.
purgerinho
Profile Joined June 2008
Croatia919 Posts
December 15 2009 18:20 GMT
#3484
yes, if idra fail to get 1st spot it's better for him to go home to USA... he is in korea almost two years and he has progaming licence - he is progamer.. i can see someone to win against him in one game, maaaybe two, but in bo5 - no... i don't like idra and i hope he will not get it coz of his manner but i can't see anyone else at the 1st spot.. i have only hopes (white ra, draco, brat_ok, ret, mondragon...)
SUMMARIZED (by DeMu): You CANNOT surprise a top level Protoss with a build
kOgetSu
Profile Joined December 2002
Poland8 Posts
December 15 2009 19:10 GMT
#3485
As the season ends in a while, can i transfer my stats? (i like to collect tham at 1 place lol)
ZlyKiss
Profile Joined April 2006
Poland697 Posts
December 15 2009 19:26 GMT
#3486
trolling? cmon guys

im just saying it would be strange if ppl with work, school/university and other acrivities of real life could beat someone with 13h a day training pattern living in house full of pros

sorry for stating the obvious
hak
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Sweden768 Posts
December 15 2009 19:35 GMT
#3487
On December 16 2009 04:26 ZlyKiss wrote:
trolling? cmon guys

im just saying it would be strange if ppl with work, school/university and other acrivities of real life could beat someone with 13h a day training pattern living in house full of pros

sorry for stating the obvious


if you would have wrote "it's strange if he doesent win due to the amount of practise with progamers in korea" noone would have cared. but you didnt write it like that

maybe you should learn how to NOT write like a troll and be more humble

sorry for stating the obvious
Substandard
Profile Joined October 2008
Italy270 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-15 19:37:55
December 15 2009 19:36 GMT
#3488
Idra is the obvious favourite but he is still a B-teamer. B-teamers can get beaten by top foreigners, even in a series. It's not likely but it can happen.
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
December 15 2009 19:39 GMT
#3489
Of course Idra not getting #1 would be a disappointment/failure. He's the man to beat in this tournament. How is that a troll.
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spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
December 15 2009 19:43 GMT
#3490
On December 16 2009 04:26 ZlyKiss wrote:
trolling? cmon guys

im just saying it would be strange if ppl with work, school/university and other acrivities of real life could beat someone with 13h a day training pattern living in house full of pros

sorry for stating the obvious


Top foreigners are not THAT much worse than Progamers (B-teamers especially). At this level, twice the amount of practice doesn't make you twice as good (diminishing returns). Idra probably also is less familiar with the foreign style of playing now that he practices so much against koreans. That means that he might do worse against a foreigner than against a korean on the same level because he can't predict foreigners as precisely as koreans.

This is just to give you some things to think about. Idra still has an edge obviously, but he isn't guaranteed to win and if he loses it doesn't mean he lacks the skill to stay in korea.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Prof. Protoss
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Germany744 Posts
December 15 2009 19:45 GMT
#3491
So how long do I have to wait until anything new happens in TSL?
I'm dying here people, I'm dying!
GIEV MOAR TSL
Don't mess the fess!
kOgetSu
Profile Joined December 2002
Poland8 Posts
December 15 2009 19:56 GMT
#3492
Heey, i can i transfer my stats as seaons ends in 1h?
Tarson
Profile Joined July 2003
Poland130 Posts
December 15 2009 19:59 GMT
#3493
On December 16 2009 04:56 kOgetSu wrote:
Heey, i can i transfer my stats as seaons ends in 1h?



no u cant !! go trolling somewhere else!
Sc2ggRise
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States607 Posts
December 15 2009 20:00 GMT
#3494
this better not turn into the ASL where the ladder ends and no one knows wtf is happening after that... not that i think it will, I'm just still bummed over the poor organization of the ASL. does anyone even know who won??
Beside_kr
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada902 Posts
December 15 2009 20:10 GMT
#3495
On December 16 2009 05:00 Sc2ggRise wrote:
this better not turn into the ASL where the ladder ends and no one knows wtf is happening after that... not that i think it will, I'm just still bummed over the poor organization of the ASL. does anyone even know who won??


I think it was 1. IdrA 2. gosi[Terran]

but I don't know for sure
Cuffs, cuffs, you can't break those cuffs
Tarson
Profile Joined July 2003
Poland130 Posts
December 15 2009 20:56 GMT
#3496
to be honest for me personally ASL was a joke
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
December 15 2009 21:03 GMT
#3497
Of course Idra is the man to beat, but to call him a failure if he doesn't win would be a stretch. I mean; Jaedong, who is the best player in the world and wins like 70% of his games vs other progamers, dropped a game to a foreigner.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
purgerinho
Profile Joined June 2008
Croatia919 Posts
December 15 2009 21:19 GMT
#3498
yes, he dropped a game but nothing more than that... and it's just idra's progaming failure, not his broodwar failure..
SUMMARIZED (by DeMu): You CANNOT surprise a top level Protoss with a build
theqat
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States2856 Posts
December 15 2009 22:02 GMT
#3499
I hunger for the final standings! With this unstickied, the time must be close . . .
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
December 15 2009 22:11 GMT
#3500
On December 16 2009 05:00 Sc2ggRise wrote:
this better not turn into the ASL where the ladder ends and no one knows wtf is happening after that... not that i think it will, I'm just still bummed over the poor organization of the ASL. does anyone even know who won??


umm messenger knows, and the people who played know. besides that no one lol.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
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